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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:12 PM
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Holy crap, did anyone catch this in the oil for food scandal?
http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/MSN/world/national/2005/04/14/oil-food-charges050414.html




The indictment unsealed on Thursday also named a South Korean citizen, Tongsun Park, who is charged with conspiracy to act in the United States as an unregistered agent for the Iraqi government.

Kelley said Park worked with Samir A. Vincent, an Iraqi-born American citizen who was the first person charged in the oil-for-food scandal.

In January, the Virginia businessman pleaded guilty to being an illegal agent of Saddam's government in connection with the program.

Kelley said Park is believed to be in South Korea at the moment. If convicted in the United States, he faces a prison term of up to five years.


More on Park
http://www.namebase.org/main4/Tongsun-Park.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/unification/lovebmb.htm
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:f-iPltYPO_oJ:www.time.com/time/archive/printout/0,23657,914710,00.html+Tongsun+Park&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:19 PM
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1. Tongsun Park is a RevMoon ally.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:21 PM
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2. who is also a 41 ally
unreal!! I can't beleive this guy is still kicking around! I didn't see the moonie connection coming, i'm pretty surprised.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:09 PM
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13. Isn't James Baker III Anan's assitant or something?
I know Baker III has something to do with the UN?

I swear I read he does... although you never hear it mentioned (God forbid the wing nuts heads might explode if they knew the bush family consigliore was involved in UN activities)
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:39 PM
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18. isnt this a load of shit when compared to missing $ from Iraq war
if it comes out of washington and your tv set it is a load of shit---preety much under any circumstance
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cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:13 AM
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23. my old boss worked on the IRAQ AUDIT
Several audit agencies sent auditors to work on this project and I used to work for one of the people on the Iraq audit. They are very thorough and do great work. I can tell you this for SURE, the military audit agencies and DOD audit folks do MUCH BETTER work than the big accounting firms.

I just got off a contract working for one of the big firms and they are a JOKE. It is beyond me why someone would think that working for a big firm is a resume builder. The military agencies are FAR better places to learn a craft.

(Please note that I do not include IRS people here, they are a totally different breed and the audits are completely different)
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:23 PM
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3. CIA asset ? Koreagate from 1976 ? Same guy ?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 05:29 PM by EVDebs
Koreagate on Capitol Hill?
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,914710,00.html

KCIA, CIA, corruption, Capitol Hill.

The more things change the more they stay the same. Also, check this out on 'the media's' reliance upon the CIA

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/LIE/HK/HK2.html

The Tongsun Park stuff is near the bottom....
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:28 PM
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4. i cant get over this, it's fucked up!
and hw bush was up in his ass. Now we know for sure why chimpoleon hasn't said anything about this scandal, hits a little too close to home.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:32 PM
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5. Oh but I think Bush did say something, wasn't it he who went
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 05:33 PM by caligirl
after Koffi Annan, threatened his position at the UN? All for Poppy Bush. another abuse of power by the Bushitler
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:34 PM
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6. Did he publicly? I thought that was Norm Coleman and the other
wing nuts. I think this is huge news, where the fuck is the media on this?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:54 PM
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8. Coleman might have said it but there is more to it. Read on(short)
AMY GOODMAN: Joy Gordon, you are a professor of philosophy at Fairfield University, completing a book on the sanctions program in Iraq and your piece in Harpers begins, "The Bush Administration was still reeling from the revelations about Abu Ghraib prison this year when supporters of the President suddenly took note of a dramatic new scandal involving Iraq. 'The richest rip-off in world history,' wrote William Safire." Can you talk about your take on what's happening?

JOY GORDON: Sure. I actually think that this thing with Cotecna is something of a red herring. If you look at, well, and if you look at how the accusations are typically framed, it's the U.N. failed to do this or how could the U.N. have done nothing in the face of the smuggling and kickback. In fact, what's crucial here is to make a distinction about the different entries within the U.N. There's a difference between the Security Council and the Secretariat, and many of the policies that permitted the smuggling and kickback to take place were, cannot be laid at the feet of the Secretary General. They are the policies of the Security Council and the Secretary General has no control over the Security Council. And if we look at the claim that the U.N. failed to catch contracts with pricing irregularities, well again, that goes to the Security Council whose job was to review all of these contracts and if we look at the policies and the failures of, that are now being laid at the feet of the United Nations, many of them, in fact, are due not only to the Security Council but to particular members within the Security Council. For many of these things, the policy for example that allowed the Iraqi government to choose who it would trade with, well that was a Security Council Resolution 986 in combination with a Security Council-approved memorandum of understanding. And the member states, including the United States, were in support of that. If we look at the committees, if we look at the Council's failure to block contracts with pricing irregularities, and it was the Security Council's responsibility, not the Oil-For-Food staff, they did not have the authority to block contracts, only to present information to the Security Council, then in fact what we see is none of the members of the Security Council, including the United States, chose to block contracts where there were obvious price irregularities, even when U.N. staff presented that information with documentation to them.

AMY GOODMAN: We are talking to Joy Gordon, author of among her pieces, "The U.N. Is Us: Exposing Saddam Hussein's Silent Partner," and Claudia Rosett, who has exposed this story in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Sun. We want to turn now to Denis Halliday. He was in our studios about a week ago, the former Assistant U.N. Secretary General who was in charge of the Oil-For-Food program. This is what he had to say about it.

DENIS HALLIDAY: I think it's because the U.N. has become irritating. The Secretary General has finally woken up to his responsibility and has announced that the war is illegal, which has sort of threatened the United States I think, and Britain perhaps. And the old frustration of the neo-con right wing who feels the U.N. is a threat, international law is unacceptable. Its part of the rejection by the Bush regime of Kyoto, of the ICC, of all the other international laws which the rest of us in the world feel are so important, but are rejected by Congress, because they feel it impinges on the constitution and their function, and so on.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/03/1451205
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:31 PM
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11. Read the weblink in Post #3. M$M is paid by intell to NOT tell n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:14 PM
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14. Yep
I'm not surprised really. They were using this to get rid of the UN so they can do their wars and all that. I'm really not surprsied to find out that the Bush family was connected to the "Oil-For-Food" program.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:47 PM
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24. Yes, I think it is! I knew I'd seen his name.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-05 03:50 PM by Daphne08
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:49 PM
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7. Bush family and Moon "the Messiah"
Many stinky links among the Bush family and the Rev. Moon, who has proclaimed himself to be the Second Coming.

Why do not Christian evangelicals ask questions about this? They prefer, like ostriches, to keep their heads in the sand.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html

Archive
Dark Side of Rev. Moon

Mysterious Republican Money
House Speaker Dennis Hastert implied, without evidence, that liberal funder George Soros funnels drug money into the U.S. political process. But Republican administrations have looked the other way when facing evidence that conservative benefactor  Sun Myung Moon has ties to overseas drug lords and has engaged in a long-running conspiracy to launder money. September 7, 2004

The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money
At odds over North Korea, George W. Bush and South Korean President Kim Dae Jung have one thing in common: behind the scenes, both have benefited from Rev. Sun Myung Moon's largesse. March 10, 2001

Rev. Moon, the Bushes & Donald Rumsfeld
Defense Secretary-designate Donald Rumsfeld criticizes President Clinton for not blocking North Korea's missile program, but Rev. Sun Myung Moon -- a Bush family benefactor -- allegedly was giving the communist leaders hard currency they needed. By Robert Parry. January 3, 2001.

Rev. Moon, North Korea & the Bushes
New documents reveal that U.S. intelligence tracked secret payments from Rev. Sun Myung Moon to North Korean leaders, a development that could embarrass the Bush family. By Robert Parry. October 11, 2000
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:00 PM
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9. and here's more.....also mentions Tongsun Park and Doug Wead, Bush buddy
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:25 PM
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10. and the media will just ignore it, Moon is like the 3rd rail of politics
for Washington and the corporate owned media.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:29 PM
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16. just for the hell of it i checked the moonie owned
washington times and they don't have a word about it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:48 PM
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12. David Chalmers was the first American charged in the case
He was a former business associate of Oscar Wyatt (Bush campaign contributor). Wyatt is a Texas oil baron who received more money than any other individual and announced in March 1997 that he would retire and begin lobbying in Washington to lift sanctions against Iraq and Libya. In addition to personal vouchers he received between 1999 and 2003, his company was awarded oil vouchers in 1996 and 1997 to pump 11.8 million barrels of oil, according to Iraqi documents contained in the CIA report released in October. http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/nws/news041010a.html


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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:05 PM
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15. i've been trying to see if Chalmers and Wyatt's companies link somewhere
it's like tangled web of corruption and assholery with a huge bit of offshore accounts thrown into the mix.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 08:34 PM
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17. Ho boy. Saw on MSM tonite they say the Korean has info on Kofi Annan
So this oil for food UN angle is how the rightwingnuts/M$M wants to push the media spin. Doubt they'll even look further.

Figures. Most of these newsrooms have kollage graduates from the '80s or later I'll bet. No sense of history or institutional knowledge of how intell plays the media.

So sad it's pathetic.
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:05 AM
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21. hints of this in the NYTimes piece
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:12 PM
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19. NYTimes weighs in...
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 12:03 AM
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20. what does it mean in your name base link
that DeCamp's book Franklin Cover-up is mentioned? Is this guy mentioned in relation to that scandal, I wonder?
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 11:05 AM
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22. Story made the front page of the Dallas Morning News (n/t)
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