Saint Malachy Prophecy & Pope Benedict XVI... WHY this name?

[lovuian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

Everybody has heard of Saint Malachy's prophecy of the Popes and the destruction of the VAtican

We know that the Vatican respects Saint Malachy cause they made him a Saint.

But heres my question which is bugging the heck out of me!!! Please HELP!

If you were the Catholic Church and you knew about the Saint Malachy Prophecy wouldn't Saint Benedict be the farthest name you would pick!!!

111 Gloria olivae (The glory of the olive)

I mean St. Bernard of Clairveuz was a friend of Malachy's and brought back the St. Benedict's Laws which has connection with the Crusades and the Knights Templars

But the Name Pope Benedict clearly does fit him

from the article above

Yet there can also be a different meaning. Pope Benedict XVI had his birthday on April 16 and on that day is celebrated the feast of Saint Benedict Joseph Labrè (March 26, 1748 - April 16, 1783), also known as the Holy Pilgrim. His first name was already Joseph and together with Benedict, which he has now assumed, his Christian namesake is now complete. Moreover, the Order of St Benedict is also known as that of the Olivetans.

Alternatively, less specific interpreters have predicted that he will promote world peace (as in an olive branch). The late self-proclaimed Pope Clemente Domínguez y Gómez of the Palmarian Catholic Church used to claim that he was the glory of the olive.

There had already been, before the election of pope, a concomitance in two unrelated events occurring on the opening date of the 2005 Conclave. First, a Turkish presidential candidate won overnight the northern Cyprus elections favouring re-unification peace talks of the two sectors; the Cyprus flag has two inter-locking olive branches in it. Secondly, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi was forced to resign and hold general elections early as a result of pressure from the leftist opposition called l'Ulivo.

So heres the question Why Benedict why not John Paul the III

???

its truly freaky!!!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. No it's not. It's rather transparent.

In all religions there are those who are rather mystical in their beliefs. Signs, portents, prophesies...all are there to appeal to those who are looking for an external force in our lives, an over-arching paternal figure to protect and guide us.

This is to appeal to them. Consider how quickly the Malachy Prophesies were referenced. That is no coincidence. Then, the choosing of the reign name. No coincidence in that, either.

Sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar, but then, it kinda is just a cigar, ya' know?

[lovuian]

I totally agree its not a coincidence!!! Is He trying to challenge

the Prophecy and fate!!! Saying this doesn't scare me!!!

is that the point!!!

[MADem]

2. Here's my guess, only a guess

Benedictus 15 was a guy who tried to bring peace to Europe during WW1. This new Pope wants to bring increasingly secular (and wealthy) Europe back into the fold, and persuade them to open their wallets. The Vatican is running some big deficits.

It is also a homage to the Benedictines, who run, among other monestaries, the one at Monte Cassino (of film fame), where this new Pope used to go on retreats, often, to think and clear his head, during his time in the Vatican (virtually the entire Papacy of JP2). He was known to stay at other Benedictine monestaries as well, but Cassino was his favorite.

Finally, taking JP3 would have been viewed as presumptuous. JP2 took the name because everyone LOVED JP1, the smiling Pope, who only lasted 33 days. They took it as a signal that he would continue in JP1's shoes--that didn't happen. The first JP was very progressive, and when JP2 took the name, it was perceived as a humble gesture, a homage of sorts. If Benedictus 16 took the name JP3, it would be viewed as a bit of 'high horse' attitude, I suspect.

[lovuian]

5. Ok so JP III was to presumtous what about Leo or Pius

there were surely other names than Benedict!!!

Wow he did hang with the Benedictines so it does make more sense why he took Benedict!!!

[MADem]

10. He really, really respects them

They've obviously had a huge influence on his life. And I do think the work of the last Benedict, who admittedly was not as effective as he wanted to be though his heart was in the right place, had some influence. This one has predicted a short Papacy, I think he knows his role in the big scheme of things, and if he's right, and it is a short reign, he will be alot like 15.

But only he knows for sure why he chose the name. He just may let us in on it one day.

[calzone]

3. What's in a name?...........

All I believe is what can be verified by scientific method, with one exeption...love. I believe in it, and it's power, but can't come up with an explanation for it. My question is what's on Benedict the 16ths MP3 player? Ave Maria for sure, by Aaron Neville, Karen Carpenter or Haifetz. How about maybe...Wagner? (sorry about that) *makes the sign of the cross and rubs a surge protector*

[lovuian]

7. In the Catholic religion the Name is very symbolic!!!

Look all over the vatican the symbolism is every where and in the Catholic Faith there is confirmation where you declare your Catholic name

So whats in a name ...its who you are and what ideals you want to promote in your life!!!

[calzone]

14. I've also never believed in....

symbolism. Our flag for instance, is a piece of dyed cloth. Mr. J. Campbell is entertaining, nothing more IMO. I wouldn't put a fish on my bumper or a yellow ribbon either.

[lovuian]

16. Symbolism is in Literature Art it usually stirs emotion

Its everywhere in films and even on Tee shirts!!!

[MADem]

12. The Litany of the Saints, surely!!! n/t

[rsmith6621]

4. Because He Likes Eggs

eom

[Maple]

6. The Benedictine order

is noted for it's group..the Olivetans.

They always believed they'd have a connection to this pope...so voila he picks this name.

[lovuian]

8. So most of you guys believe that Pope Benedict wasn't thinking

of the Prophecy but of his connection to the Benedictines and to other stuff!!!

[Maple]

11. No I mean

he 'made' the prophecy come true by picking that name

[norml]

9. The name Benedict XVI was predicted.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3505491


Web Results 1 - 10 of about 209 for "Pope Benedict XVI". (0.13 seconds)
Tip: Save time by hitting the return key instead of clicking on "search"

News results for "Pope Benedict XVI" - View today's top stories
German Cardinal Ratzinger Elected Pope Benedict XVI (Update1) - Bloomberg - 52 minutes ago
Biography: Benedict XVI - Globe and Mail - 1 hour ago





The Future and the Popes
... The next Pope after John Paul II will take the name Pope Benedict XVI, ...
was an emissary of peace, so will Pope Benedict XVI be an emissary of peace. ...
www.catholicplanet.com/articles/article41.htm - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

New Insights into the Deposit of Faith
... This article predicts that the Pope after John Paul II will take the name Pope
Benedict XVI. ... I think that Pope Benedict XVI will be black. ...
www.catholicplanet.com/insights/ - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
< More results from www.catholicplanet.com >

Catholic Theology
... 2) He will not be a Benedictine, but he will take the name Pope Benedict XVI.
... Therefore, Pope Benedict XVI, the black pope, will seek peace among ...
groups.msn.com/CatholicTheology/general.msnw?action=get_ message&mview=0&ID_Message=425&LastMo... - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

CBEM 518.1 - ComicBookNetworkEmag Archives at ...
... so will Pope Benedict XVI be an emissary of peace. Just as Pope ... Pope Benedict
XVI fail to achieve peace in the world. Just as the ...
archives.zinester.com/49753/44488.html - 38k - Cached - Similar pages

History Channel
... Pope Benedict XVI, will be of African descent and live just 6.8 years after
... >>Pope Benedict XVI, will be of African descent and live just 6.8 years ...
boards.historychannel.com/ thread.jspa?threadID=600001441&tstart=120&start=-1 - 56k - Cached - Similar pages

Who Will The Next Pope Be? (Not "who will be the next Pope")
... The next pope will be POPE BENEDICT XVI inorder to fulfill St. Malachy's prophecies
as the last pope in reference to the Glory of the Olive. ...
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1376766/posts - 40k - Cached - Similar pages

Prophecies - Psychic Prophecy, Prediction and Premonition Registry
... And 2/22/05, the Monarch will appear, and will call himself Pope Benedict XVI,
... I am Gloriae Olivae, Pope Benedict XVI, Elijah, and finally Dan'el. ...
www.prophecies.us/article.php?sid=626 - 37k - Cached - Similar pages

FARK.com: (1428652) List of potential new pope names. Oh, how I ...
... jimpoz I'll put my money on Benedict XVI. No reason. oh yeah!? The next Pope
after John Paul II will take the name Pope Benedict XVI ...
forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1428652 - 110k - Cached - Similar pages

The Death of a Pope
... observers in Rome believe if this is true, the next pope will go by the name
of Pope Benedict XVI, in imitation of Saint Benedict and Pope Benedict XV. ...
www.foundations.edu/online_material/ straightway/2005/vol33_no3.htm - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums -> The new pope
... I wouldn't be suprised if he will take the name Pope Benedict XVI, even though
his mother was Christenized as Benedict. He is not the anti-christ and ...
www.unexplained-mysteries.com / forum/index.php?showtopic=38320 - 91k - Cached - Similar pages


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Pope+Benedict+X...

[onehandle]

13. I have a better question...

Why wasn't this posted here where it belongs?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=214

[lovuian]

15. Oh Sorry I didn't know about that forum!!!

if the moderator wants to switch it over its ok with me!!!


But I'm not the only one asking the question???

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43899

Did pope choose name
to fulfill prophecy?
Catholic scholar: 'Benedict' a reference to protecting Rome from Germans

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: April 20, 2005
5:00 p.m. Eastern


By Ron Strom
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Rather than purposely choosing the name Benedict to fulfill a 12th-century prophecy about the papacy, the new pope chose his moniker as a reference to sixth-century St. Benedict and his quest to protect Rome from invading German pagans, a Catholic scholar and writer says, claiming the pontiff hopes to protect the modern-day Church from destructive philosophies that originated in Germany.

Mary Jo Anderson told WorldNetDaily she is not impressed with those who point to the prophecy of St. Malachy as having been further fulfilled with the election of Pope Benedict XVI.

So the WorldNet doesn't think it had anything to do with the Prophecy either!!!

[kweerwolf]

17. Perhaps the Catholic Church is like the Dominionists ...

... and trying to fulfill prophecy to bring about the "end times."

At least that's the latest conspiracy theory I've heard from Ratzinger taking a name that seems to fulfill the Malachian prophecy.

:tinfoilhat: