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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:06 AM
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How Gannon knew about "Shock and Awe" in advance:
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 10:20 AM by tgnyc
Maybe it was because he spent 6 HOURS at the White House the day the launch was to take place, according to the RAWSTORY timeline.

Though Bush had given a 48 hour warning two days earlier, nobody in the media expected the attack to be launched literally 48 hours later, as it was (ABC's Peter Jennings was off at some party or something, so unconcerned was he about the looming deadline, that it took the ABC News staff something like 45 minutes to get on the air that night).

Except Gannon. He knew four hours early -- basically by the time he left the White House that day, after his incredibly long 6-hr stay.

With each revelation, new insights.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:08 AM
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1. Yes.
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 10:11 AM by tanyev
Someone else spotted a similar thing in another thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3538398#3538478

Gannon visited the WH 9/10/04 11:19 - 12:55 (no briefing).

Two hours later he posted on Free Republic about getting the scoop on the CBS story. Hmmmm.

I got the scoop and passed it to Hannity. Look for my detailed story on Monday at Talon News.

Thanks for reading!
504 posted on 09/10/2004 2:44:09 PM PDT by Jeff Gannon (Listen to my radio show "Jeff Gannon's Washington" on www.RIGHTALK.com )


There was another thread that had a link to all of his FR postings. It might be a worthwhile activity to go through the sign in/sign out log and compare them to the FR postings.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:09 AM
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2. Are these new revelations making it into the corporate media?
I think I already know the answer to that, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:09 AM
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3. I'll bet AWOL Bush "briefed" Gannon privately with his own version
of "shock and awe".

I'm sure the National Enquirer would pay big big bucks for the pix. heh.. (so would AWOL's gay freeper fans)
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:10 AM
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4. Obviously a case of "pillow talk." NT
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:55 AM
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10. delete
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 11:57 AM by realFedUp

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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:16 AM
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5. This is the real story here--Guckert's access.
People are wasting their time on the sexual innuendo.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:34 AM
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7. I agree. I think the sex angle is Plan B--if access was discovered, the
fall guy (McClellan?) says he was having an affair w/ Gannon, he gets canned, end of story, move along folks.

The Valerie Plame story is the big one, IMHO. And if Gannon was posting on FR from the Whitehouse (as I saw on a post here last night), that would seem to indicate that he was getting his marching orders from some high-level WH official.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:47 AM
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8. Maybe Gannon himself wasn't posting or filing stories while at the WH.
Maybe he took his laptop in and somebody with more brains than he seems to have, did the writing on his laptop that went to Free Republic and to his Talon Website.

Somebody like Rove, maybe?

Didn't someone point out that in some of Gannon's postings he wasn't very literate?

So maybe to get it right on the Talon site and on FR, it needed to come straight from the horse's mouth. For that, Gannon and his laptop would need to have been at the White House.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:18 PM
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13. Could be
Could be. Sometimes people carry laptops with them or they already had a laptop and logged in under the name.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:04 PM
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16. didn't someone actually say that his writing almost appears like two
people writing it?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:43 PM
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24. That's because
he palagarized stories. He took various parts from different network sites such as fox, cnn, msnbc.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 11:48 AM
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9. The post about him posting from the WH was a non-starter
FreeRepublic uses PDT and therefore the time was off by three hours. The original poster made an edit to clarify.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:13 PM
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11. Thanks for the update! It still looks like he's getting his copy from
someone high on the WH food chain...
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:05 PM
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17. so none of his posts came from the WH?
according to the times signed in?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:08 PM
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18. I'm not sure about that one...
The post in question was the one about Mapes. I think more research would have to be done to determine if he ever posted from the White House.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:23 PM
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14. McClellan will never get canned...
Have you heard that guy speak? Dubyas echos him to such a degree that it's scary. A true mini-me! Dubya would be LOST with out his Scotty! :cry: :rofl:
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:42 PM
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15. But that's why he (like *) is expendable--just need someone to follow the
script. Maybe they could use that 9-year-old kid they had on the Social Security Piratization tour...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:44 PM
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25. You're right
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 09:45 PM by FreedomAngel82
I think so too. Plus Scotty is his shrill. It would be obvious. If one of them goes they'd all be in trouble. Even though Wolfowitz is gone he's still in touch with them I'm sure. He got his promotion so he won't be talking.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:01 PM
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27. Let's Go Higher Than Gannon...
All this obsession with Gannon's sexuality does distract and gives the corporate media cover as I will say the homosexual angle is revolting and makes them want to ignore the story, not pay attention to it. Turning it into a tawdry tale of Jeff and Scotty and whomever does more to turn people off of this story than to turn them on.

There's some characters in this story who've all but escaped much scrutiny...Morton Blackwell, the Eberles, Arthur Finkelstein and others who run the well-known right wing media that found Gunkert, turned him into Gannon, got him access and now protects him from being exposed for the partisan plant he is.

Now if someone could connect the dots of how Gunkert to to Blackwell's school and from there to Talon, I'll bet you also find some very nice inroads to Robert Novak (Plame)...since Blackwell's "Journalism School" Gunkert attended claimed to be "taught" by Novak's "investigative reporters".

Sorry, the sexual angle on this story is a major boat anchor.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:12 PM
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19. It's the "sexual" stuff that will get it in the news...so then we do
the "bait and switch" - once we bait 'em, that's when we switch to the investigation of this guy. Who brought/bought him into the WH and what did he do?
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:42 PM
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20. Exactly!
Yet, as much as I hate to admit the FReepers would luv that one - attention getter.

Seriously though... forget sex part.

It's BIGGER than that! Guckert given total secret access to White House during high levels of 9/11 security... Big issues here, and more!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:51 AM
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6. Maybe it isn't about sex...maybe he was to be the next Drudge....
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 10:52 AM by higher class
During the impeachment efforts...Drudge was the designated guy to drop or float the dirt and Monica news. I'm not sure, but it seemed like Drudge was an independent who was sympathetic to the right wing agenda, but equally interested in Hollywood and his time had gone with Clinton gone.

Perhaps they were grooming Talon News/Gannon under the umbrella of GOPUSA to drop and float the dirt and news.

Though we're not sure how the dirt gets to Fox, it would seem that Ailes would be called direct or it could go through the cousin that works for Fox...but maybe this is how they disseminate some of it to build up Talon News. (They sure built him and TN up in the WH press briefings).

On the other hand...maybe Jeff and Sean are buddies.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:47 PM
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21. Oh. We're fools if we think they're NOT allies!
You're points re Drudge and drop dirt man are remarkable interesting.

Hmmm... have feeling this is NOT going to go away.

Think its even BIGGER!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:46 PM
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26. Is there any connections
to the two of them? Similiar people and whatnot?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:56 PM
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22. Is this why Drudge won't talk about Gannongate?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:37 PM
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23. Maybe he likes Prostitutes too?
He is a whore anyhow.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:16 PM
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12. Oh yes indeed
Lots of stuff unfolding now with this new information. Huge thanks to Raw Story. They're a great news site.
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