Gary Bauer on Prayer in School, Homosexuality, & the 10 Commandments:

[mopaul]

...gary bauer, who trolls here at DU for shocking headlines he can use against us, and who is with the infamous 'family research council' and who is one of the authors of the nazi inspired 'project for a new american century', has some interesting things to say. enjoy.

oh and gary, thanks again for dropping by asshole.



http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Gary_Bauer_Civil_Rights.htm

If not prayer, recite Declaration
Bauer says if schoolchildren can’t begin their day with a prayer, then they should recite their Declaration of Independence. “It would accomplish the same thing,” said Bauer. He would select the passage that begins, “We hold these truths to be self-evident..” Bauer added, “It would remind all of our students that God is the author of our liberties and that nobody can take that liberty away. And since it is in the founding documents, I don’t see how the ACLU could object.”
Source: (x-ref Education) Boston Globe, p. A20, “Political Briefs” Nov 25, 1999

The law recognizes and encourages heterosexuality
“In America, you’re given a great degree of choices on how you live. But when it comes to what the law recognizes and wants to encourage, it should be the intact family that brings a man and a woman together in marriage,” he said. “Quite frankly, I’m surprised that as young people who are wrestling with economic issues, and have experienced family breakdowns yourselves, that what you would be primed for today in talking to me is to promote the demands of the gay rights movement.”
Source: Associated Press Jul 7, 1999

Posting Ten Commandments will reduce crime
Gary Bauer took partial credit for . “I believe if more American children read the Ten Commandments and are taught what they mean, they will predictably engage in less crime,” he said, noting the sentiment for religion in the schools after the recent student massacre in Colorado. “I went to Littleton, Colo.,” Bauer said. “What you see are little handmade signs everywhere, ‘Let our children pray,’ and ‘Bring religion back in to our schools.’”
Source: CNN AllPolitics “Mixed views” Jun 18, 1999

[Bluebear]

1. Lookin good Gary!

[mmonk]

26. LOL

[Ishoutandscream]

2. Oh...boy....

Words cannot describe.

On another note - Hey Gary, I could sure go for some flap jacks!

[demnan]

3. Warning

prepare to regurgitate lunch!

[rurallib]

4. Mr. Bauer, how many of the 10 commandments are laws?

2 by my count - killing and stealing. There are no laws to honor your mother & father, or to prohibit lying (else you'd be out of work) or to keep holy the sabbath.
On the other hand there are no commandments to prohibit homosexuality or specifically stop abortion or to pray at every state sponsored event. I think youse guys are making some things up about what's in the bible or the 10 commandments etc.
Why don't youse guys all band together and take over a small island nation where youse can practise your brand of 'democracy ' and leave us alone? And take W with you, he's a leader and a uniter.

[Fenris]

5. "they will predictably engage in less crime"

:rofl:

He actually believes that shit too!

[Zenlitened]

6. Well, that's why people kill, isn't it? Because they forgot...

... it's against the rules.

:crazy:

[cdb]

7. Dear Mr. Bauer

1. Kids can pray before they come to school. Before, after or during breakfast. There is no need for them to do so in a public school. In a private school, they can pray all day if they want to, and what kid wouldn't welcome that opportunity?

2. Homosexulaity will always exist. Get over it.

3. The Ten Commandments do not prevent people from worshipping stains on cement beneath overpasses. While this only blocks traffic and irritates drivers it is expressly forbidden in commandment #2. 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' So why don't you focus on that, instead of wasting time.

[Tux]

9. Actually

Kids can pray in school. What was banned was teachers and admins leading prayer. As long as the kid doesn't interuppt class, they can pray till Buddha returns.

[cdb]

11. OOPS

my bad... then what is Bauers whiny-ass problem???

[Tux]

13. easy one

he can't convert kids to evangelical christianity

[mopaul]

8. so gary, how's jeff gannon square with what you've stated here?

huh? can't answer that one can ya'? naw, i didn't think so

[geniph]

10. The Pledge is "in the founding documents"?

Is he a) on crack, or is b) he just an ignorant fuckwit? (There is also a possibility of c) both.) The Pledge was written in 1892. The Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence - these are our founding documents. Gary, dipshit, they were written just a TAD earlier than the Pledge.

I might also point out to Mr. Dingbat Bauer that Francis Bellamy, the Pledge's author, was both a Baptist minister and a Socialist. And here's the Pledge's original text: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.'

Will you show me, oh Gary, where in that original text it says ANYTHING about God being the author of our liberties?

*crickets chirping*

[napi21]

12. The most amusing part of his statements is the 10 Commandments

should be posted to remind people of what they are.

Gary, I'd really like for you to do some public service work with the Gov't Family Service departments who deal with troubled homes and children EVERYDAY! I'd also like you to volunteer to work with some prison counceling groups. I don't disagree that the world would be better if everyone followed the good teachings, no matter what their religion is, but you really need to be doused into the world of reality. A young kid isn't thinking about wether it's right or wrong when he sells drugs on a corner. He's thinking about that $1,000 a week or a day if he's good at it! I want you to find a way to convince him he's wrong, cause, other than saying "you're breaking the law and could get caught, I simply don't have a reason for him. The guy or gal who in prison because they committed robbery, murder, assault, or 1,000 other crimes wouldn't have been swayed by tripping over a monument displaying the 10 Commandments.

It's wonderful to dream of a lot of things life can bring you. At some point you really have to face reality!

[LittleClarkie]

16. If they have to be posted then I didn't do my job

I'm a Sunday School teacher. If they leave my class not knowing the 10 Commandments, it's on me.

Which reminds me. Y'all ever seen this candy?

http://store1.yimg.com/I/christiandollarstore_1841_1054464

A verse on every wrapper. A cross on every candy.

Don't seem right somehow.

[mopaul]

14. g'morning gary!

just sitting here thinking about you

[Solly Mack]

15. Speaking of Littleton, Colorado...(interesting factoid)

Lifestyles (the movie about "wife swapping" in various locations, to include Littleton, Colorado...and mind you, some of these people are conservative wife swappers )

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808404898

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800353697&cf=info

..." Right now swingers - conservative and suburban as they are-are the vanguard of our ongoing American revolution to encourage the pursuit of happiness and permit more personal freedom"

The swinging ain't the point...more power to them if that's what does it for them...but what about the sanctity of marriage? Adultery? Family values? I mean , golly, what will the children think? (Oh, yeah...they're busy praying at school) Whew! I'm sure glad Gays can't get married. (:sarcasm:)

My guess is some of the little handmade signs in Littleton read:

Swap Meet Tuesday @ Mona's and Ray's Place.

[LittleClarkie]

17. His eyes look like someone glued them on

None of these people were popular in school, were they. And they're taking out their resentment on us.

[mopaul]

19. he got his head dipped in the toilet a lot

i know a geekoid nerd zombie when i see one.

but i think there is something to this 'revenge for highshcool' shit.

a permanent chip on his shoulder, and the keys to world destruction.

[LittleClarkie]

24. Eh, I was none to popular either in school either

In my case, it was part Navy brat and part my parents not agreeing on where to settle. Dad was from VA, mom from WI. Dad liked it better in WI, mom liked it better in VA.

First through fourth grade = VA
Fifth grade = WI
Sixth grade = VA
Seventh through twelveth grade = WI

Perpetual new kid, and petite hefty besides. Oh what fun.

But I don't want to take over the world. I just want the world to like me.

[BR_Parkway]

25. Adds new insight to the OxyRush rant over young folks getting BJ's and why

these folks are so concerned over what I do in my bedroom. They think they're being left out of something - again!

[NMMNG]

18. Every day...

...Every time I read something by one of these extremist whack jobs...

I am reminded just how insane they are :crazy:

[mopaul]

20. slay on buffy

they are getting confrontational, and we must stand our ground.

[opihimoimoi]

21. Gary is guilty of Delusion in the 2nd Degree. A crime punishable

with 10 to 15 years at hard labor cleaning drool cups.

When will Gary by convicted/sentenced?

BTW....The fall from the stage while doing jacks seems to have resulted in loss of neurons.

[mopaul]

22. I wouldn't bother with him if he didn't have world domination in mind

the little creep has access to the button, and is a PNAC poster boy.

crushed by flapjacks, oh the humanity!

[mopaul]

23. here's a funny picture of gary bauer.....(hee hee)...(snicker snicker)

[mopaul]

32. hi gary baby!

[mmonk]

27. Somehow, we have got to start showing people

that what they advocate is essentially an overthrow of our governmental system (which is treason). Should we start getting more verbal on that angle with Joe Q Public? A religion by force is not freedom of religion.

[Az]

28. Someone is going to have to explain the nature of sovereignty to him

A theocracy is where sovereignty is invested in the clergy.

A monarchy is where sovereignty is invested in an heir based line of succession often condoned by the church.

A democratic republic is where sovereignty resides in the people.

[seabeyond]

29. went to school from '65 to '79

prayer was never in school. never once did we put our hands together in prayer

what is he talking bring prayer back to school. when is htis magical time where prayer was EVER in school

[mopaul]

30. i got out in 69

with honors, or a diploma anyway. no one prayed, except on test day.

[seabeyond]

31. damn you old, wink, lol lol so lets do some math

so from about '56 - '79 no prayer in school. i wonder when that time of prayer to get back to was.