Larry Flynt nails Bolton over divorce (forced sex, wife fled in fear)

[wicket]

OMG, Larry Flynt does it again!!!!

http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/larry_flynt_bolton_511

The controversial Hustler Magazine publisher Larry Flynt has waded into the conflict surrounding the nomination of Bush hawk John Bolton to a UN post by revealing Bolton's divorce records and unanswered questions about his sexual past, RAW STORY has learned.

The following release was issued early this afternoon. RAW STORY will provide more details as they become available. We will be publishing excerpts of the Bolton divorce record shortly.

The records show that Bolton's wife left him during a trip to Vienna in two weeks in 1982 and never returned. The records further show that she took most of the couple’s furniture.

###

From Mr. Flynt's release:

Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department despite inquires posed by Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt concerning the allegations. Mr. Flynt has obtained information from numerous sources that Mr. Bolton participated in paid visits to Plato’s Retreat, the popular swingers club that operated in New York City in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

“The first Mrs. Bolton’s conduct raises the presumption that she fled out of fear for her safety or, at a minimum, it demonstrates that Mr. Bolton’s established inability to communicate or work respectfully with others extended to his intimate family relations,” said Mr. Flynt. “The court records alone provide sufficient basis for further investigation of nominee Bolton by the Senate.” These court records are enclosed here as an attachment. Mr. Flynt continued, “The U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations must be free of any potential source of disrepute or blackmail.”

Mr. Flynt has contacted the State Department asking that they confirm or deny the allegations of Mr. Bolton’s prior conduct concerning his wife and the alleged paid visits to Plato’s Retreat. He has also called upon the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to conduct an inquiry into the very serious evidence concerning his first wife’s fear of him.

Much more at link.


Edited to add link to LBN discussion: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1463140

UPDATE at 3:34pm, the divorce records have been released:

http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/court_records_bolton_511

[Triana]

1. How long as Bolton Been Walking Upright?

Does he still have callouses on his knuckles from where they dragged the ground when he came out of the cave, if he ever DID come out of the cave? What a pr*ck! What a bullying, hotheaded, arrogant, chest-thumping ape!

We want THAT representing us in the UN? I don't *think* so!

[fooj]

2. Ruh-Roh!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Larry is on fire!!!!

peace.

[underpants]

9. Well hump my mule and called me a box turtle

:bounce:

[wicket]

10. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

:rofl:

[catmandu57]

29. And milk your horse

nt

[atommom]

43. Me too!

:rofl:

[shrike]

3. It's gotten to the point where I'm glad he (Flynt) is on our side. n/t

[ArkDem]

90. Yes, he certainly makes the Democratic Party more

palatable to the rest of the country!

[Pepperbelly]

105. I've always been glad. He is an honest man.

A perv maybe but what are you gonna do? There is no shame in Larry's game and I say GOOD FOR HIM!

[graywarrior]

4. I can't even begin to imagine the "group"

[rndmprsn]

24. oh god...thats sick!

imagine a cheney, bush, wolfowitz, fief, frist, delay daisy chain...the thought is really scary!

[wicket]

35. oh my god.

Excuse me while I :puke:

[XemaSab]

108. you forgot bulldog

n/t

[myrna minx]

32. Perhaps Antonin Scalia fished out the "keys."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1317386,00.html

Orgies are the way to ease social tensions, claims US judge

Oliver Burkeman in New York
Friday October 1, 2004

He is the conservative bastion of the US supreme court, a favourite of President Bush, and a hunting partner of the vice-president. He has argued vociferously against abortion rights, and in favour of anti-sodomy laws.
But it turns out that there is another side to Justice Antonin Scalia: he thinks Americans ought to be having more orgies.

Challenged about his views on sexual morality, Justice Scalia surprised his audience at Harvard University, telling them: "I even take the position that sexual orgies eliminate social tensions and ought to be encouraged."

It seems unlikely that this is what President Bush meant when he promised to appoint more judges like Scalia to the court, should the opportunity arise. Crucially, Justice Scalia is one of the judges in favour of overturning Roe v Wade, the landmark judgment protecting abortion as a constitutional right.

[fudge stripe cookays]

34. "Just don't get knocked up if you're participating,"

he clarified later.

:eyes:
Fucker.
FSC

[LisaM]

5. Ha ha ha ha ha - it's like that Illinois Senate candidate

who tried to force his wife to have public sex or something. I'm sorry for the wife, but the story is hilarious (and how anyone like that managed to attract a wife in the first place is beyond me.)

[EST]

41. He's pretty and has lots of money (born with silver foot in mouth)

What a winning combo!

[LiberalFighter]

118. Silver foot belongs in the ass

[EST]

166. He brought a lot of satisfaction.

Made a vote for Obama a gleeful occasion!

[Eric J in MN]

107. Jeri Ryan, "Star Trek" actress

Here is my article,

Jack Ryan, Family Values Hypocrite, Ends His Run to Be an Illinois US Senator for the GOP Amid Sex Scandal


http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2004_06_26_jack_ryan_family_values_hypocrite.asp

[liquiduniverse]

137. it wasn't just any wife either...

it was 7 of 9, the large breasted borg, from Star Trek

[underpants]

6. Frrrrrrrrrrrrreaky!! The party of mule humpers and group public sex

Family values huh?

What was the Senatorial candidates name that the Star Trek woman divorced and said pretty much the same thing about?

[Withywindle]

16. Jack Ryan

Poor, poor Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan). Her husband just had a creative interpretation of "public service."

That's what paved the way for Illinois Republican II: The Wrath of Keyes. Now that was some good TV. The special effects were great.

[salin]

19. but its not this, or divorce that threaten's the institution of marriage..

it is the currently not legal "gay marriage" that is a problem...
:sarcasm:

[Withywindle]

31. I have no problem with kinky stuff if it's really consensual...

...it's this little "My woman, my property-how dare she refuse me" issue. Which is what Fristians and RW hypocrites really mean when they talk about "sanctity of marriage."

Divorce is fine with them too if it's a man wanting to trade in his old wife for a newer model.

[Hardrada]

127. GOP connubial scene:

"Hey, let's you and him fuck!"
"Hey, let's you and his buddy fuck too!"


(Wife leaves stage left, screaming in terror!)

[getmeouttahere]

80. Yowsa!!! Good one, Salin!

Needed to be said, if only to make us feel a little better in the midst of all this garbage!!!

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

61. Thank you!

I was scratching my head thinking, isn't this old news?

Now it hits me: forcing gangbangs on the wife is just an ol' Republican custom.

[aldian159]

162. HAHA

Great post

[EST]

44. Don't forget pony wankers!

All inclusive family values.

[sellitman]

67. Don't forget the Whore Guckert in the White House

Lot's of family values going around the GOP these days!

[Carolab]

93. Yeah we'll they've been group humping a bunch of donkeys lately.

...

[MsUSA]

7. Good ol' Larry........

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Hobarticus]

8. Mr. Bolton, that fluttering sound you hear...

...are many years' worth of skanky disease-ridden crows, coming home to roost.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Here comes

his karma. :) Yay Mr. Flint!

[Hobarticus]

26. And we all shiiiiiine on .....

:)

[grasswire]

11. Yo, Larry?? Can you get Rove's divorce papers?

They're a matter of public record. Someone needs to get them.

[lancdem]

75. Rove was divorced???

I didn't know that.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

12. Back in that time period...

A hell of a lot of people were snorting cocaine and screwing up a storm. Snortin' and comin', snortin' and comin'...all that seemed to go on. It was amazing that anything got accomplished.

Seek the archives for a piece I wrote called "Cocaine Ethics". I feel that the piece, although rough, does explain a lot of what is happening now.

[Gruenemann]

25. maybe that would explain the white mustache.

Permanently coke-stained.

[LSparkle]

53. LMAO!!!

[Hubert Flottz]

92. Got Milk?

Maybe his hand got tired!

[Joey Liberal]

129. The Mule Lover also has a crazy mustache

Those repugs sure are a bunch of perverts, aren't they?

[KittyWampus]

54. See Movie "The Ice Storm". Devastatingly Beautiful

[getmeouttahere]

81. Did it ever occur to you....

That maybe that IS why things got done, back then???

The 70's don't look so bad now, do they? We're living in hell right now, with no light at the end of the flaming tunnel

[Daphne08]

13. The Corporate Media won't ignore this... it's got SEX!

:rofl:

[dissent1977]

65. Remember Jeff Gannon?

The media only covers sex scandals if they do not involve Bush's friends.

[Richardo]

14. Well, Larry, if the whole world knows about it it's not blackmail-able.

Right?

Frankly, I don't see that this will make one whit of difference. The RW will just cry 'politics of personal destruction' by a porn merchant in league with the Democrats. They'll probably even compare Bolton's plight to Clinton's, and throw the 'personal life has no bearing on professional life' card.

[dissent1977]

70. This is more than his "personal life" this is rape

The reports say that he FORCED his wife to participate in group sex. This is RAPE and the minute that they try to say that rape is a personal matter we need to make them explain why Bolton should not be able to judge Bolton on the basis of him being a rapist.

[Richardo]

77. I know - I'm just predicting the Rove-spin

[dissent1977]

84. I understand

I knew that you did not actually believe that this was merely his personal life, I just wanted to respond to your post so that everyone else that reads this knows how to respond when Rove has his people use that argument.

[Yavin4]

15. What Is With Republicans and Sex?

Say one thing in public. Do just the opposite in private.

[graywarrior]

17. They're so kinky, them repubs.

[LuminousX]

134. Democrats just like lotsa sex

Sometimes kinky, sometimes just nice good ol' sex and they aren't ashamed by it.

Republicans also like sex, but are ashamed of it, hide it, repress it, and it surfaces in really perverse ways like Mule mating and forcing wives into orgies. For Bolton though, I really believe it is about power, like most sex crimes - little to do about sex and much to do about the person's view of himself and his own psychotic behavior.

[oneold1-4u]

160. Hiding & repress is the big lie

Just like a republican mayor in Spokane WA!
It would be better to elect an honest person who admitted he was a murderer than a person who hides continually behind a wall of lies and cheating to continue a mass murderous regime and always saying that it is all caused by abortion, gays, anti-xtians, anti-family, or any others!
They will never willingly allow truths to come out, about republican or democrat personal lives! They believe rightly to some extent that the pot won't call the kettle black but they are going to be outed by the thousands who have fought so hard to be out of power controlled lives: wives, children, mothers, fathers, siblings, partners, etc.
If they would give some thought to all the thousands of monica types (male & female) they will begin to come clean or find a stronger, deeper, closet.
The honest democrat, liberal to conservative, should at least admit that freedom extends to all who can be truthful and, as example, open gays and lesbians do get elected and are responsible citizens!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

71. The bigger the sexual taboo is to them

the more thrilling it is to break it. As long as it's kept in the closet, that is. I would have liked to know what French philosopher Georges Bataille (author of such fascinating works as "Visions of Excess", "Death and Sensuality", and the "Tears of Eros") would have had to say about this.

[whistle]

18. That is one for the republican Edwin Meese Pornography Report...

....update!

"Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department despite inquires posed by Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt concerning the allegations. Mr. Flynt has obtained information from numerous sources that Mr. Bolton participated in paid visits to Plato’s Retreat, the popular swingers club that operated in New York City in the late 1970s and early 1980s."

How will the republican supporters of John Bolton's nomination respond to these revelations? "Mr. Chairman, John Bolton may not be allowed an up and down vote on his nomination, but I think he deserves an in and out, in and out, in and out vote".

[underpants]

23. but I think he deserves an in and out, in and out, in and out vote

too funny

[Withywindle]

33. Oh GROSS

Now that is a mental image I did not want.

[whistle]

36. Hehehehe, sorry, I should have included a warning label.....

....WARNING!!!!

THIS POST INCLUDES EXPLICIT VISUAL VERBALIZATIONS THAT MAY CAUSE THE READER TO EXPERIENCE A TOTAL STATE OF REPULSIVENESS!

Better? :rofl:

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

89. Wow, Plato's Retreat

The gold standard of kinky clubs in the 70s.

Buck Henry was a regular - didn't he write about the club for Playboy?

So was Al Goldstein, whose Screw Magazine went bankrupt and who has ended up homeless, most recently working as a greeter at NYC's Second Avenue Deli.

I imagine all kindsa living-at-the-edges folks are pointing at Bolton and claiming him as one of their own.

"One of us! One of us! We accept him, gooble gobble! One of us! One of us!




PS: Bless you, Mr. Flynt!

[LiberalFighter]

121. Can Meese prove that he only performed sex in the missionary position?

[KoKo]

21. Doesn't this link to Repug Operative Larry Stone and his swinging wife

that there were so many posts about here on DU awhile back. Didn't Roger Stone and his wife frequent "Plato's Retreat" and advertise online for sex with other couples.

Didn't Roger Stone go on into high profile lobbying with the Christian Conservative Lobby groups?

Anyone remember? And, who was Gannon/Guckert visiting? Sounds to me like all of these folks associated with Bush/DeLay/Abramoff are really into kinky stuff. One wonders what Lynn Cheney does on the side. :-(

[EST]

46. On the side?!

OMG- it's been so long, I didn't even know they'd moved it!

[loudsue]

64. ROFL!!! Just sprayed coffee all over the place!!!

ROFL!! :rofl: That was funnier'n hell! :applause:

:kick:

[EST]

165. Maybe one of those keyboard skin thingys would help.

Posting on DU can use up a lot of keyboards! Thanks for the applause-does a body good.

[fob]

141. Hats off to you. You must have been waiting a long time to use that one!

And if you don't mind, it is going on my list of witty rejoinders waiting for the perfect setup.

Thank you.

[EST]

164. You are welcome to file the serial numbers off and claim it as

your own-I certainly would! I used to do standup and have only been keeping these things stored up for thirty five or forty years.

[KittyWampus]

55. Were THEY The Couple Who Set Up That Fake Memo Dan Rather Got

Roved with?

[KittyWampus]

60. Swinger Stone Frequented The Vault -He Participated In 2000 Florida Mob

by organizing it... so he & Bolton both participated in that travesty back in Florida and they're both swingers.

And yes, it was Stone's wife who may have been the Cuban who posed as "Lucy Ramirez" and was the source of the fake Memo about Bush.

"Then it all came out in 1996, while helping to run Bob Dole's campaign, that Roger Stone and his wife were "swingers," and that they both had placed an ad in several swingers magazines seeking out muscular men to come over and bang Stone's wife while he watched. There then surfaced a picture or Roger Stone photographed at a swingers party wearing nothing but a thong and a dog collar. "

[KoKo]

106. Roger Stone and the Doles....has anyone seen Liddy Dole's photo's

recently? And, does anyone wonder why Bob Dole advocated Viagra?

Liddy has had so many surgeries she's looking like Phyllis Diller and Bob has had some nips and tucks, too.

Aren't those two getting kind of freaky? What all have they been into?

Big buddies with the Bushies: Poppy/Babs...were around when all that pedophilia stuff was reported in the 80's in the Washington "Moonie"Times, and now the Bushies are back and we have "Jimmy Jeff" and lots of other odd things popping up here and there.

The Sex Network in DC must be HUGE! And, sadly I think some of our Dems have played around in it too. Probably are being blackmailed, and maybe some were enticed and set up with photo's even if they weren't actually in the "inner circle" of it. :-(

[Toots]

87. The same Roger Stone that set up Dan Rather?

I am not even amazed anymore at all the connections.

[tinrobot]

22. I am totally unsurprised by this.

I have come to expect every single GOP hack to also be a hypocritical pervert. Shilling for these neocon wingnuts requires you to repress a lot of feelings, which will invariably come out in the bedroom.

Funny how a consensual blowjob seems so tame these days.

[salin]

30. the sad thing, however,

will be if THIS is the thing that derails him... given the record of failure in his position (eg nuclear proliferation has accelerated under his watch)... his record of subverting his superiors... his record of trying to taint intelligence... his record of abuse of power over employees... and his overall unfitness as a diplomat (NKorea would NOT return to talks until they were guaranteed that Bolton would not be participating... AND Great Britain forced Bolton out of talks with Libya per getting rid of nuke materials and aspirations - as Bolton was threatening the ability to negotiate with Libya to resolve the situation).

Frankly, it is frightening to me that REAL concerns would be overlooked due to Admin arm twisting.... but that this type of embarassment could be the thing to turn the tide. In the big picture - it is small potatos among reasons to deny him the UN post. Serious, yes. More serious per the specific post - than all of the above that he has done that has put the whole country's security at risk? No.

[coloradodem2005]

39. Well. I agree.

However, right now, I will take my victories however I can get them.

[salin]

42. agreed

and I even find humour in the situation/accusation. However, the commentary it makes - if this is true and if it gets enough traction to stop Bolton - is rather sad per what serves as imp to the senate in its constitutional role of advice and consent.

[coloradodem2005]

57. True.

But these charges are far more serious than anything that was leveled at Clinton.

[UCLA Dem]

40. I understand...but whatever gets him out, thats all that matters...

I mean sometimes they were only able to nab mobsters on tax fraud because they couldn't get them for all the people they murdered...but that the criminals went to Parisian is all that matters.

It is most definitely frustrating though.

[Gormy Cuss]

51. Nah, this won't derail him

Everyone knows that any bad behavior by a Republican male under age 40 is a youthful indiscretion.

Nothing will derail him unless Bush/Rove lets it. If he's viewed as a liability this story is a handy way to send him off, rather than admitting to his severely limited diplomatic skills.

But I too would prefer he be taken out of contention for this reason than to have him represent our country.

[LSparkle]

59. Remember Bob Livingston

I predict KKKarl will be on the phone to Johnny Boy soon enough to urge him to withdraw his application (or whatever), to make it look like Bolton is the one backing out, not Chimperor & Co. losing a fight.

[Raksha]

74. I don't think you need to worry about that.

>>Frankly, it is frightening to me that REAL concerns would be overlooked due to Admin arm twisting.... but that this type of embarassment could be the thing to turn the tide.<<

This could be the thing that FINALLY gets the attention of the public (quite frankly, I'll be happy if ANYTHING does and I don't much care what it is), but there is a growing dissatisfaction with Bush even among his supporters, and if just one thing--ANYTHING!--starts to get some public scrutiny, all the rest of the shit will follow on its heels. Then the whole rotten PNAC agenda and the perverts who run it will be exposed the whole world to see, and better yet, for the whole USA to see. The rest of the world is on to them already.

[Hubert Flottz]

101. More neokkkon "MORALITY"?

"The Issue Bush Won on in 2004 was morality!" That's what the headlines said! That's what the top GOPer talking heads on every talk show and in every newspaper were spouting!

Just think about how hard the Bushwhackers sit back and laugh at people like the Baptist Preacher in North Carolina and all the other hand wringing church goers, who have been totally SUCKED IN and made FOOLS of, by the neocons! God is just a chess piece in the dirty game of dirty politics to the Bush Gangsters! The GOPers will say OR do anything it takes to win! Lying and Cheating is just part of their greedy game! It's all about fooling the foolish!

We need to call these neocon criminals to account on every MORAL issue, like they once did to Bill Clinton! When I think about the smug, sickening, right wing rats in congress pressing home their attack on Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, it's all I can do to keep from barfing! Think of the great fun Hyde, Hatch and Sessions, to name just a few, had ruining Mr. Clinton in front of the whole world! I keep remembering how the GOPers all stressed that "NO ONE IN AMERICA IS ABOVE THE LAW!" Turns out that now every GOPer crook in Washington is "ABOVE THE LAW!"

"MORALITY" URASS!

[natrat]

130. devolution of american politics

can it get worse??

[Catherine Vincent]

27. Republicans are some kinky people.

Group sex?

[paineinthearse]

28. No byline?

Is this John's or Larissa's work?

:headbang:

[UCLA Dem]

37. Wow. Does it get anymore humiliating for the WH?? I hope so!!!

:rofl:

[Starfury]

38. How long has Larry been sitting on these documents?

Looks like he released them at just the right moment!

[BringEmOn]

45. Again, the Lord uses a pornographer to turn the tables on the hypocrites.

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 1 Corinthians 1: 27

[Nickster]

47. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! God I love Larry Flynt.....

[KharmaTrain]

48. Has Wonkette Run With This Yet??

Sorry, Larry Flynt...while he's never been proven wrong when he outs someone, just doesn't get the corporate media's "hard-on" like Wonkette does.

This lady needs to either come forward for this mess to gain much traction. Without a face...an Anita Hill or Paula Jones...the charges won't get much air on corporate media.

[wicket]

49. I just emailed it to Wonkette

:evilgrin:

[KharmaTrain]

58. Good Work...

Whorie Kurtz and Don Imus can't wait...LOL.

Cheers!

[wicket]

113. She posted it!!!!

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/white-house/new-twist-in-bolton-case-103177.php

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[KharmaTrain]

117. Great Work!!! LOL

Dirk Diggler to the UN



I love it!!! Now are we sure about Bolton and mules?

Now here's hoping Olbermann and/or Jon Stewart pick up on it and then it becomes fodder for the late night comedy shows and into the public that way. This is how it used to work.

Alas, it's proabably too little, too late, but any angst we can create for these assholes makes this travesty a tad more tolerable.

[wicket]

50. UPDATE: Flynt releases the Bolton divorce records

http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/court_records_bolton_511

[madrchsod]

52. Plato`s Retreat !!!

now that is funny! hell it brought down jack ryan in this state..i wonder what the fundies think of bush`s "moral decisions" now?

[Ganja Ninja]

56. OK Lets recap the sex stories related to the Bush and the GOP.

There's turtle humpers and man on dog lovers, mule fuckers and horse masturbators, self pimping male hookers and a couple of group sex freaks, an assortment of child molesters and the infamous BTK killer/registered republican.

Man! I sure am glad these guys are restoring dignity to the white house.

[progressoid]

62. group sex looks kinda tame in comparison to some of those others...nt

[salin]

63. but does coerced participation in said activity seem so tame?

[CTyankee]

98. what is the mule story?

I heard a reference to it briefly on Randi Rhodes last night but I didn't get the gist of it or who was involved. I thought it might be Santorum, since he seems to have thing with animals. PLEEZ, some DUer fill me in!

[Sydnie]

100. Check out this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3633180

The guys name was ...



















wait for it ...














Horsley -- Neal Horsley. LOL



You just can't make this shit up!

[Botany]

153. You just can't make this shit up! You just can't make this shit up!

Sydnie,

This makes "Gull Bay" look like a nursery rhyme. What is up w/ these sick
bastards? Hey wife, you have sex with a stranger while I pleasure myself.

Family Values, HA!

The more I see about * and his administration the more I think of the nazis
and all their little sexual escapades.

you are my fav EDV ..... please don't tell the others ......

[Sydnie]

167. Hey *Buddy*

I heard you today. You did good!

I have been so out of the loop lately, tell me ... am I still the STAR of Gull Bay or have I been written out?

I want my own chapter now damnit! :loveya: right back!

[XemaSab]

111. You forgot

3 generations of homoerotic, autoerotic necrophilia: masturbating into an open coffin with your fraternity "brothers" at skull and bones.

[geniph]

170. You forgot forced marital sodomy

they're into that one, too.

[ClintonTyree]

66. The Slugs set the rules of conduct in Washington......

by dragging Bill Clinton through every mud hole they could find. Oh, what a time they had! :rofl: They were just beside themselves with glee. Only problem is, this works both ways. That's one thing the Slugs haven't figured out or are too stupid to grasp. If you play with fire, chances are that sooner or later someone is going to get burned. They fanned the flames of the politics of personal destruction and now it's coming back to haunt them. And it will, again and again. These people have no more morals than an alley cat, but to hear them talk you'd think they were god's chosen party. They're hypocrites, rank and file hypocrites.

Once you've squeezed the toothpaste tube it's hard to get it back in. They want to use the "Nuke-you-ler" option and throw away the filibuster. Do they think they're going to be in power forever? Well, maybe, with the help of Diebold. They don't think, they're too stupid to be on power. They truly are. REPUBLICANS ARE TOO STUPID TO BE IN POWER! :banghead:

[edbermac]

68. How PATHETIC is the MSM when we have to rely on Larry Flynt??

Hey ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN et al...

[katinmn]

82. That's an important point. They've had months to look into

the allegations that Bolton has serious character flaws (anger, acting out in innapropriate ways toward subordinates). Surely it occured to them to do some interviews of people close to him.

Corporate owned media are just afraid. Can't offend Mr. Money.

[edbermac]

69. dupe delete

Hey ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN et al...

[deadparrot]

72. Charming.

But will we hear the religious right's so-called outrage?

Or is that specially reserved for the Clenis?

[dissent1977]

73. This is RAPE

This is about far more than Bolton's personal life, this is about Bolton being a rapist. If he forced his wife to engage in group sex, this is not a laughing matter. We can not have a rapist in a position of power in our government.

[asjr]

76. Oh Boy! Larry Flynt upstaging the media! Those

two-dollar whores should learn a lesson from this.

[NightOwwl]

78. Bush will drop him like a hot potato.

The guy can be as vicious as he wants as long as it's all about the work. That kind of behavior can be explained away by things like, "He may be gruff and a bit of a bully, but he does what's right for the country."

Participating in group sex, wife abuse, including forcing her to have group sex...this goes straight to his character. pResident "Moral Values" Bush will have a hard time standing by Bolton if this picks up any steam at all. And I think it will.

Heh...Bolton will have to think of something other than the usual "I'm leaving to spend more time with my family" excuse when he drops out.

[LaPera]

96. Not a chance. Bolton is Bush & Cheney's man & he is going to be confirmed.

Bolton is perfect. He lies, he will change information necessary to further the corporate oil agenda.

He despises other nations in the world and is very arrogant about it.

No he is the perfect man for the UN job. Bolton will be confirmed.

The republicans run the show...

Thank you electronic voting machines.

[chelsea0011]

79. Forced=raped.....watch the repukes spin this agianst the dems

[lukasahero]

159. I can give the spin before it even starts

that is, if it starts because I don't believe this will ever get any where NEAR a corporate media outlet.

But it will be spun thusly:

If Dems hadn't empowered women then this uppity bitch would have known her place in life is to service and please her husband. This will be a non-issue because they were married and everyone knows that women are expected to "obey" their husbands in all things - including all of his sexual desires.

I'm surprised there's no mention of this article from The Nation in light of this Bolton thing. http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=mcgarvey

Dr. Hager's Family Values

With the autumn sunlight streaming through the stained-glass windows, Hager opened his Bible to the Old Testament Book of Ezekiel and looked out into the audience. "I want to share with you some information about how...God has called me to stand in the gap," he declared. "Not only for others, but regarding ethical and moral issues in our country."

For Hager, those moral and ethical issues all appear to revolve around sex: In both his medical practice and his advisory role at the FDA, his ardent evangelical piety anchors his staunch opposition to emergency contraception, abortion and premarital sex. Through his six books--which include such titles as Stress and the Woman's Body and As Jesus Cared for Women, self-help tomes that interweave syrupy Christian spirituality with paternalistic advice on women's health and relationships--he has established himself as a leading conservative Christian voice on women's health and sexuality.

...

Up on the dais, several men seated behind Hager nodded solemnly in agreement. But out in the audience, Linda Carruth Davis--co-author with Hager of Stress and the Woman's Body, and, more saliently, his former wife of thirty-two years--was enraged. "It was the most disgusting thing I've ever heard," she recalled months later, through clenched teeth.

According to Davis, Hager's public moralizing on sexual matters clashed with his deplorable treatment of her during their marriage. Davis alleges that between 1995 and their divorce in 2002, Hager repeatedly sodomized her without her consent. Several sources on and off the record confirmed that she had told them it was the sexual and emotional abuse within their marriage that eventually forced her out. "I probably wouldn't have objected so much, or felt it was so abusive if he had just wanted normal sex all the time," she explained to me. "But it was the painful, invasive, totally nonconsensual nature of the sex that was so horrible."

[Hamsta1]

83. Please dont let it be

too good to be true! This apparently hasn't hit at Freeperville yet, but i am always curious how they will react to these smoking-gun-type-things. What was their take on the Secret Bush Memo anyways? I guess all I need to do is download the RW Talking Points of the day from Limbannity to know that.

PS-Please let it be true and stick. Please let it be true and stick
<crosses fingers>

[grasswire]

124. it's there...

but they're hiding the story off the front page. Look under "bloggers and personal" and you'll find the discussion.

[WillyT]

85. Wonder If The Bolton's And Scalia's Ever Double-Dated At Plato's Retreat

Cause ya know... Scalia says that orgies are a good way to reduce tension in adults.

Course... it doesn't seem to have worked in 'ole Johnnie-Boy's case, no???

:shrug::rofl::shrug:

[salin]

95. probably not... but check out my posts below...

now wouldn't that be a story...

[Poiuyt]

116. That soldier in your signature photo looks like John Bolton in a helmet!

[WillyT]

143. If Only...

:shrug:

[getmeouttahere]

86. Keep some perspective, friends...

when we talk about who is fit to represent our country...after all, we already have Paul Wolfowitz at the World Bank, Rumsfield at Defense, Lap-Dog Condi at State, and of course The Chimp himself mis-representing us! Even if Bolton turns out to have a slimey personal life in addition to his feable diplomatic skills, what makes us think that the next nomination for U.N. ambassador will be any better. One thing we can do is make the rest of the world aware of what's coming...not that they don't do a much better job of finding out themselves...keep it front and center, email your friends in other countries...keep all these indiscretions and horrible policies out there for the world to see...it may not help us here in the states much, but maybe it will help the rest of planet earth.

[salin]

88. WOW... I just remembered a story from FairFax VA circa 1986...

I was living in the area and an avid reader of the WaPo.

There was a couple that was into the "Swingers" scene in NoVa that were 'sleeper spies' (pun intended) for, I believe, the Soviet Union. When discovered there was a great bruhaha - as it was said that they had swapped with some very well connected folks.

Same era, same predilication... wouldn't that be something... wish I could remember their names...

[salin]

94. Search the memory – then search Google and behold:

I find this (and get the name: Koecher)

From: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:Wyc1NIrCbUoJ:www.combat-diaries.co.uk/diary25/diary25chapter12.htm+wife+swap+couple+northern+virginia+spies&hl=en

snip:

JERROLD BROWN AND KARL KOECHER
In 1984 Brown worked on the case of Karl and Hanna Koecher. Karl Koecher was a Czech Intelligence Service (STB) officer who had the distinction of being the only deep-penetration agent placed within the CIA. Koecher orchestrated a fake defection, and arrived in the U.S. from Czechoslovakia, in transit from Austria. He became a naturalized United States citizen, and applied for a post at the CIA in April 1972. After passing a polygraph test, Koecher was hired by the CIA in February 1973 as a translator. With his wife, Hana, Koecher attended sex orgies and wife-swapping parties in Washington and New York. At the parties, Hana Koecher, also a Czech Intelligence Service officer, would take on four to five men at the same time. Many of the party goers were fellow CIA employees who swamped classified information as well as sex with the popular couple. The Koechers also frequently the S & M Hell Fire Club and the partner-swapping Plato's Retreat. He supplied the KGB with information which caused Alekandr Ogorodnik, a key CIA asset in Moscow, to commit suicide after his apprehension by the KGB. Ogorodnik used CIA-supplied poison hidden in a fountain pen to commit suicide. For more than 20 months, ANGLETON was unable to detect Koecher's presence within the CIA. Author Ronald Kessler interviewed ANGLETON in April 1987, and brought up the subject of Koecher. ANGLETON showed no interest in the case. In 1982 a Czech working for the FBI turned Koecher in. The FBI followed him for two years without developing enough evidence to prosecute him. Just before the Koechers were about to move to Austria, Jerry Brown, and other intelligence officers, talked him into confessing by telling him that he was going to be doubled, which was simply untrue. Kessler reported: "Fierer asked Geide about Brown's statement that the couple would be free to go about their business. Did he tell Koecher that was untrue?
---

Wonder if John with a coerced Christine ever crossed paths with Karl and Hanna?

Same time period, same geographic area of "swapping/swinging". Same club. Can't remember what John was doing in the mid-seventies through early eighties. Any stint in the CIA, or in circles likely to intermingle with CIA folk?

Just asking...

[Raksha]

102. Yikes!!! That gives new meaning to the term

"deep penetration agent."

>>Karl Koecher was a Czech Intelligence Service (STB) officer who had the distinction of being the only deep-penetration agent placed within the CIA.<<

[salin]

112. lol...

I missed that ... LOL

[stevedeshazer]

103. Whoa

I just gets weirder.

[Robworld]

91. Larry Flynt always comes in handy

Didn't he expose some Republicans in congress of having extra marital affairs during the whole Monica Gate debacle?
He's great at exposing the assholes who claim high morality as being the total scumbags they really are.

http://www.dumdumgoestothecircus.com/

[Snotcicles]

109. Right ? Bob Barr. n/t

[Poiuyt]

97. Isn't the vote tomorrow?

I'm afraid this is coming out a little too late. Will the senators hear about this in time?

[LaPera]

99. Yep! Bolton will be confirmed...He's the right man for the job...

that's necessary for our lying corporate fascist administration now in power, to get more power (and riches) worldwide.

Bolton is perfect for the Bush/Cheney/Rove machine. He lies, he will change any & all information necessary to further the corporate oil agenda.

He despises the other nations of the world and is very arrogant about it.

YES, Bolton is the perfect man for the UN job (representing BushCo.) Bolton will be confirmed.

The republicans run the show...

Thank you electronic voting machines.

[oxbow]

104. It's funny but Barbera Boxer just sent me an email about Bolton

Maybe I should email this story to her PAC for a Change, see if they can give it some legs. I agree that it might be too late for the nomination tomorrow, but amybe it can hit the MSM before the actual vote goes down.

[wicket]

110. GO FOR IT!!!!!

:kick:

[lovuian]

114. Whoah this guy has some serious Issues!!!

not to stable either!!!

[slor]

115. LMAO...Buh-bye...

Just like kerik, he is going DOWN!!!!

[Neshanic]

119. Another R wife misses a 7 of 9 assimilation.

[OneForLuck]

120. I wonder...

If he was as big of an ass to all of his sexual partners as he seems to have been to everyone else around him.... how in the hell did he get ANYONE (including his wife) to sleep with him???

[Erika]

145. What or who are you talking about?

[wicket]

152. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[LiberalFighter]

122. They gave Bolton security clearance?

[quaoar]

123. But Flynt has not provided anything concrete yet

He cites unnamed sources confirming that Bolton frequented Plato's Retreat.

And where are the records to back up the forced group sex claim? The fact that the allegations have not been refuted by the State Department is insufficient.

[in_cog_ni_to]

125. Holy Moly! The religious, righteous, never do no wrong

right wing wacko nut jobs aren't gonna like this story. :bounce: First we have a REPUBLICAN Spokane Mayor who turns out to be a pedophile, then we have a REPUBLICAN idiot-in-chief who gives hand jobs to horses and holds hands with Saudi princes, then we have a REPUBLICAN anti-choice activist who has sex with animals in his barn and now we have Bolton, "The Swinger/abuser. Man, I just love the hypocrisy. :rofl:

[Momgonepostal]

126. Nice family values nt

[Joey Liberal]

128. Larry Flynt is an American Hero n/t

[Vogon_Glory]

131. Larry Flynt, Love Him Or Hate Him, Has A Knack For

Love him or hate him (and no doubt Bush's Duck Soup Posse and the rest of the Banana Republican Party hate him), Larry Flynt has quite a knack for finding out corroborated dirt about politicians.

The entertaining thing will be watching the very same Republicans and Kon-servatives who howled so loudly about l'affair Lewinsky and its effect on propriety screaming about how John Bolton's private morality was none of their business.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

132. Boy the Fundies ain't gonna like this

[autorank]

133. I am the proud 133rd poster on this dynamic thread.

Well, well, well...it's all been said but I must point out a term we had for people who went to NYC's "Plato's Retreat" (a bath house for "swingers"--skivatz!

[chiffon]

135. Can I get a Witnesssss?

Oh, nevermind.

We have one -- or two -- or...

hmmmmm

[riverwalker]

136. are all perverts republican? or are all republicans perverts?

thats the question, America. You have sex fiends, falafel fetishes, drug addicted talk show pundits, gambling and boozing "morality czars", gay hookers running around the white house while pics of themselves whizzing are plastered all over the internet, the entire upper echalon of the DOD are jacking off to Abu Graib torture and rape photos, child molesting preachers, and ALL, EVERY one a proud card carrying member of the republican party.

[peekaloo]

138. I'm beginning to understand the mustache.

:evilfrown:

*think unsexy thoughts"

[lonestarnot]

139. Gawd! Who or what would want to have sex, group or otherwise with dat?

[Erika]

146. A bunch of kinky GOP

I imagine they would invite Newt, Kerik, Rudy, etc. Oh, and throw in Neil Bush. He really liked the Asian prostitutes.

[lonestarnot]

158. Cave dwellers ...all....

[Oilwellian]

140. Maybe, just maybe.......

a mustache stained dress will appear.

:rofl:

[fob]

142. My I just say, I love Larry Flynt. If only the dems stayed off the recall

ballot on the principle it was a fraud and got behind Larry Flynt for Governor of CA. You wanna see change in Sackatomato, hire the Smut Peddler Who Cares!

Now Larry please get bush*s girlfriend whom he had get an abortion to go public and then move on down the GOP "Family" tree. I guarantee THAT investigation will be obscene, by anyone's definition of the word.

[Pepperbelly]

149. he'll do it if he gets the goods! nt

[dtown]

144. one strange dude

[fujiyama]

147. What is it

with republicans and bestiality (remember "man on dog" santorum and the mule thing) and group orgies (Scalia, Jack Ryan, and now this)?

And these people are worried about South Park, Chapelle, Daily Show, and The Sopranos?

This country is ruled by the biggest hypocrites on the planet, next to partying, drug dealing, pious Saudi princes.

[Erika]

148. But they tell the silly Freeper types they have family values

and the simple Freepers buy it, hook, line, and sinker.

[RBHam]

150. Someone should inform the delusional David Brooks...

A Turning Tide for Bolton
David Brooks

The momentum has shifted on John Bolton's nomination because it's become clear that while he's abrasive, he is professional.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/opinion/12brooks.html?th&emc=th

[B Calm]

151. Republicans have no morals. Mentally insane sick perverts !!

All republicans had sex with farm animals on farms in Georgia.

[Fluffdaddy]

154. Hummm This story did not make the Drudge Report

I wonder why ?

[wicket]

155. I sent it to Drudge

We should all keep sending it in to him :evilgrin:

[Fluffdaddy]

156. Will do just that ..............LOL

[connecticut yankee]

169. I sent it to him yesterday

He still hasn't mentioned it.

Neither have any of the other Repuke sites.

[salin]

161. it made a mention in the local paper by a columnist

in the middle of red indiana. It wasn't a focus - but it was mentioned.

[wicket]

163. sweet!

:kick:

[Fluffdaddy]

157. Done

[B Calm]

168. What's Next? Republican sex with farm animals?

[Dangerously Amused]

171. Why "paid visits"?

He will probably withdraw his nomination, claiming a "nanny issue."

What I want to know though is, why are they calling his activities there "paid visits"? Was he paid to go there? By whom? Would that not make him essentially a prostitute (in addition to a rapist)?