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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:40 PM
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NY Times to start charging for internet access to Op/Ed and top
Edited on Mon May-16-05 12:42 PM by tx_dem41
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:48 PM
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1. Damned SCLM!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:50 PM
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2. The good news is you can get Krugman's column elsewhere
Edited on Mon May-16-05 12:51 PM by mcscajun
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:52 PM
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14. thanks for those links good to know
now I can unsubscribe from nytimes daily newsletter cause I am not paying for the occasional time I do follow one of their newsletter links. (about once a week)
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:51 PM
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3. That really sucks!
from OP link:

NYT.com to charge for Op-Ed, other content as of Sept (NYT) By Carolyn Pritchard
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The New York Times Co. (NYT) on Monday said that, starting in September, access to Op-Ed and certain of its top news columnists on the paper's NYTimes.com Web site will only be available through a fee of $49.95 a year. The service, known as TimesSelect, will also allow access to The Times's online archives, early access to select articles on the site, and other features. Home-delivery subscribers will automatically receive the service, the NYT said.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:51 PM
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4. LAME!
I hope http://www.bugmenot.com has a way around it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:51 PM
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5. They've just made themselves obsolete
They should join the new media, not struggle against it. The internet means free access to news and information for all. If they want to remove themselves from that they have shot their own foot.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:52 PM
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6. They've only removed some content from the "Free" 'Net...not all of it.
Edited on Mon May-16-05 12:53 PM by mcscajun
And the Internet doesn't automatically mean "...free access to news and information for all." You're going to be seeing a whole lot more of this as the years go on. Ain't nothing free, not even DU. Somebody always has to pay; sometimes it's us.

I already support DU and Salon.com with $$.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:57 PM
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8. Partially relying on support is not the same as barring access to those
who don't pay. I can access Salon for free by viewing an ad. I can read DU for free. The NYT has made money online selling ads and many other things. But cutting off access to those who don't pay is the wrong move, businesswise, IMO.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:04 PM
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9. Time will tell whether it's the wrong move or not.
:shrug:
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 12:53 PM
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7. Jeez. I don't read them because then I'd have to register.
Edited on Mon May-16-05 12:55 PM by hunter
Why on earth would I pay? They are not even worth a throwaway email address.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Even the New York Times.

(Lights match, tosses it out, runs...)

:evilgrin:

On Edit, I see it's time to buy myself a star again!
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:27 PM
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10. I never understand why people have this dislike of registering
at a newspaper site. I setup a special email, and it never gets spam other than one email a week possibly from the newspaper, and I signed up for the newsletter that comes with the email.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:32 PM
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12. Me neither. I've registered at newspaper sites here and abroad...
Edited on Mon May-16-05 01:34 PM by mcscajun
...IF I want to read them regularly. If it's a site I'm only going to visit once in a great while, then www.bugmenot.com is the answer. :)

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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:44 PM
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13. I have far too many "special" emails.
Sometimes it's difficult to remember who I am. (Too many passwords!)

If I can create or use any identity, why should the New York Times or anyone else care who I am?


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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:18 PM
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20. Because its accepted practice...
that these help set advertiser rates. Whether the methodology has holes in it doesnt matter, if its the accepted practice.

Me? I would rather not go to the trouble of going to bugmenot and cutting and pasting URLs all the time (or keeping track of 50 or so username/password combinations).

Again, I have never received a spam email on an email addy that I used to register for a newspaper site.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:31 PM
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11. Good
Newspapers which charge for content will get less and less of exposure. Remember that it is not the subscriber charge which brings in the bucks but the ads, so less exposure means less revenue and less importance.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 01:57 PM
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15. It's a shame!
But there are ways around it. Get 10 friends to put in $5 each and share the password. Most of the op-ed pieces are emailed and so they will be on message boards and the like. Still, they make a ton of money on ad space on the internet (damn those pop-ups) and in print. They should not be charging for online access.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:12 PM
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16. Looks like we've got until September
Edited on Mon May-16-05 02:12 PM by kliljedahl
But DAMN, that's the first place I go to online after DU. I used to subscribe to their crosswords online when it was $9.95 a year, but when it went to $19.95 I said "Fuck it". They've just lost one online reader as of September.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:14 PM
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17. this was to be expected
the local fishwrap is losing money, and the internet is a great place to point fingers. they WILL get their money!
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:22 PM
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21. I'm not arguing with their right to make money.
Edited on Mon May-16-05 02:23 PM by tx_dem41
Heck, they're a corporation. There's nothing wrong with doing it. I'm only questioning whether its the correct, business decision.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:15 PM
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18. Will see. A couple of years ago LAT was charging for its Calendar section
and last week reversed this.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 02:17 PM
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19. aw, hell
I'll bet we'll still get Judith Miller's crap for free, though. They won't charge for propaganda.
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