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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:12 PM
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Poll question: The Iraqi elections: were they real?
The Iraqi elections: were they real?
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:16 PM
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1. They were real only where people could actually vote
Of course in large swathes of the country people couldn't vote, which makes the whole process rather illegitimate.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:33 PM
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5. The elections probably went better in some Kurdish and Shia
communities where little or no fighting occurred and support for toppling Saddam was probably strongest, IMHO. The Kurds already had a parliament going in the areas that they controlled in the north, so I think that elections probably went quite well there.

However, election participation in the Sunni areas was non-existent, and candidate selection and security looked weak in many parts of central Iraq, particularly in and around Baghdad.

I hope that things work themselves out for Iraqis eventually without bloodshed or another brutal dictator, but I think that the elections for the interim government were only a small, tentative step toward that goal, at best.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:22 PM
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2. Nothing about Iraq is real, from the first lie to the last
they have spoon fed us bullshit.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:24 PM
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3. Ok, who's the 1 total IDIOT on this board???
'Fess up!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 02:00 PM
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8. Wow I am amazed...TWO IDIOTS on this board!
How the hell did we let THAT happen?

Are there REALLY people on the globe who DON'T know that Iraq is OCCUPIED and that "occupation" is the opposite of "free"?

:wow:
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:28 PM
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4. They were as real as the Thanksgiving Turkey Bush delivered,
supposedly, in Baghdad.

Lots of things can be taken care of by Full Spectrum Dominance, John Poindexter's specialty.Illusions are converted to reality when these Zen Buddhists take over.
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bookman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:37 PM
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6. They were theater. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 12:50 PM
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7. I think
Edited on Mon May-23-05 12:51 PM by FreedomAngel82
in general the elections were real but the outcome won't be. I remember after they had the election and started counting a week or so later the Bush camp was crying "fraud" and at the time Allawi had 4% and after he had 14%. I wouldn't trust anything from this government. Also Bush and his people said around 60% of the people came out to vote but I think it was more like 40-50% if that much.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 02:13 PM
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9. And there hasn't been a serious investigation either
The election in general went unmonitored and unchecked. So we'll never know what happened.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 02:17 PM
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10. Elections, like the occupation, were illegal.
It is a matter of international law that that any election held under occupation is illegal and null.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-05 02:30 PM
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11. Chomsky, etc admits they were real, but...
I have always thought they were an act of appeasemant, designed to keep the Iraqis from rising up against a US-imposed colonial structure. All colonizers give their subjects a little sovereignty, for PR and appeasement purposes.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 02:19 AM
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12. Sure they were real
As real as ours are...:eyes:
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