Who is REALLY setting off bombs in Iraq?

[benburch]

Something stinks.

The number of bombings of mosques makes no sense. A hard-line muslim militant will NO WAY bomb a house of Allah. So who is bombing the mosques???

Discussion please.

[Jara sang]

1. Actually, they probably would

Houses of worship are not sacrosanct during times of war. During the American Civil War many churches were used as stables for example.

[benburch]

2. We generally seem to have a different relationship with God than they do.

So I am not sure the comparison applies.

[mopaul]

3. please clarify

i find this interesting

[benburch]

7. For example...

The Koran desecration thing; When you desecrate a Christian Bible, a good Christian will get upset, and think you are a jerk, but will not fly into a murderous rage, usually. Christians think of the Bible as the recording of the words of God. Muslims generally think of the Koran as the words of God directly. Not a recording. God's actual living words presented by him in present time. To desecrate them is to desecrate the voice of their God.

My understanding is that a Mosque is similarly seen as the literal dwelling place of their God; He's actually IN there. Blowing it up is an insult to God.

If anybody with more comparative religion study than I have had can comment on that, I'd appreciate it.

[Jara sang]

8. This a phenomenon that is across the board.

Through out history. If you want to instill fear in your enemies, first show utter contempt for their gods, second, destroy their houses of worship. Doesn't matter that their god and your god are the same. Their are exceptions of course, like the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris was spared during WWII.

[Mika]

4. The parties that would benefit from civil war.

Hmmm.. who would that be? :eyes:


www.stopbolton.org

[oblivious]

5. Some people will do anything for money.

Pepe Escobar
A least six militias are rampaging throughout Iraq, armed, trained and funded by the Pentagon. One of these - the powerful Special Police Commandos, with at least 10,000 men - as already acknowledged by US generals - is widely involved in applying the dreaded "Salvador option" that retired General Wayne Downing, former head of all US special operations forces, considers a "very valid tactic". The Special Commandos were active in the assault on Samarra last October, which American generals hailed as a "model" of counterinsurgency operations (not exactly: the resistance continues). They are also active in Ramadi and Mosul.

Their commander is the feared Major General Adnan Thavit al-Samarra'i, a member of an aborted, Allawi-conceived coup against Saddam in 1996. Thavit until now has been none other than the "security adviser" in charge of the face-lifted, Saddam-era General Security Directorate - infested with Saddam-era Mukhabarat agents. This is the organization Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld considers so precious that he had to fly to Baghdad to personally order Jaafari not to dismantle it. Thavit also happens to be the uncle of the former minister of interior. All this explains Allawi's obsession in controlling a ministry that so graciously houses his Pentagon-cherished top militia. Two other militias - the Muthana Brigade and the Defenders of Khadamiya - are also subordinated to Allawi.

...The Marines also have their own pet militias, such as the Iraqi Freedom Guard and the Freedom Fighters: these are usually Shi'ites from the south sent to fight against Sunnis in explosive Anbar province - the heart of the resistance. Pentagon financing of these myriad militias and the active involvement of Allawi in all these operations suggest that the Pentagon itself is destabilizing the country it is supposed to control. Destination: civil war.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GD30Ak01.html

[kiki]

6. I'm so surprised.

Look how surprised I am.

See this? This is my surprised face.

(Sarcasm, obviously)

[OneBlueSky]

9. things aren't always as they appear . . . for instance . . .

read this . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3723599

is it true? . . . who knows . . . but I certainly wouldn't doubt it, given everything else we know about what's happening over there . . .

[mopaul]

10. you liberals see spooks and spies everywhere

in the old west, cowboys would sometimes dress up like apaches and go out and slaughter a white family or two and start a full scale slaughter of innocent indians, fulfilling manifest destiny.

i wouldn't put it past rumsfeld the terrible

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[benburch]

12. I don't think that is totally unlikely. nt

[BeFree]

13. So,

While on the one hand we are spreading democracy, the other hand is spreading hate, fear, and death? That while on the face of it peace is our intention but behind the scenes everlasting war is being fermented?

Sounds like some republican scheme meant to enrich the bank accounts of a few while robbing the rest of us blind. Sounds like a crusade.

[benburch]

14. It rather does, doesn't it?

[leftofthedial]

15. naughty fratboy pranksters

same ones doing the torturing in Murkan prisons

[benburch]

16. Sounds like the Skull & Bones boys... nt