Can other countries declare Bush a war criminal and take him to court?

[Quixote1818]

What is the process on that? I don't think they will do anything while he is in power but once he is out of power I would love to see that happen even if it dosent amount to much. It would be a big black eye he would where forever!

Personally I don't think we should impeach if we gain control, because it would just tear the country apart and he would have only a year and a half left anyway. Why risk putting Chaney in power?

Once he is out of office I think we go after him full throttle as a war criminal.

[forgethell]

1. Well, they

can probably do it, but can they make it sstick? I don't thinnk so. Who wants the United States Marines landing on their doorstep? No American President is ever going to let another country try a former US President. It would set a very bad precedent.

[KansDem]

3. "It would set a very bad precedent"

True, but after this crowd, it may be the only way to stop illegal wars based on lies and deception. If the US President thinks he can and will be held accountable for killing over 100,000 innocent citizens of a foreign country in order to steal their oil, then he may think twice before trying this "preemptive war" crap again...

[forgethell]

5. Then there is

no way to stop illegal wars based on lies and deception. Whatever made you think that there was? It will never happen.

[KansDem]

9. Youthful optimism...

Whatever made you think that there was?


However, I'll make a deal...
Can other countries declare Bush a war criminal and take him to court?

They declare him a "war criminal," and I'll take him to court! (They'll have to provide the vehicle, though. I don't want him blubbering and pissing all over my seatcovers!)

[SlavesandBulldozers]

11. great post

hilarious!!

[forgethell]

14. The problem with

this whole "war criminal" stuff is first you have to defeat said "war criminal" and capture him. As the Romans once said, "Woe to the vanquished".

[1956]

2. I was wondering the same thing

I don't know, maybe the other countries in some ways have more authority than we seem to. It wasn't too long ago that I read somewhere that Rumsfeld canceled a trip to Germany or somewhere, cuz they were ready to pounce on him! What if the Bush administration were grounded ,fearful they would be thrown in jail? That would be hard to keep out of the media!

[Amonester]

4. I may be wrong, but I think

that perhaps, if a coordinated Coup d'Etat coming from (more than) "concerned" moderates at the highest ranks of the U.S. military (Gen. Clark types...) would "remove" the PNACers (as in "arresting" them all, and put them on trial for their crimes)...

Asides from that... it's quite unlikely, IMHO.

:hide:

[forgethell]

6. You want a coup?

Great for democracy. :sarcasm:

[Amonester]

7. Well, I didn't say I want a Coup...

OTOH, we can dream about it, don't we? ;)

Yep. What would have happened if one of the few plots to "remove" Hitler from power would have succeeded?

(c whatta mean?)


:patriot:

[DefenseLawyer]

8. The kicker is serving the warrant

when he fails to appear for trial.

[KitSileya]

10. I doubt it can be done.

I believe that technically, it can be done, but no politician would do it. They're far more interested in cooperation and good relations. Most liberal politicians in the West are (and it would have to be Western politicians who did it.) I doubt there are any politicians above a certain level who would do it - they are far too busy covering their own backsides. They're too afraid of their trade balances to do anything solid against the US - they confine their tough acts to economically insignificant countries like Zimbabwe and North Korea, and cater to powerful nations such as the US and Great Britain.

It would have to come from inside the US - and I say you owe it to the rest of the world to do it as soon as possible. Our politicians may stand by and do nothing, and we will surely pay for it in the afterlife that we elect them, but most Americans? I shudder to think. They are like those residents in that neighborhood who let a girl get raped and murdered outside their tenement building without even calling 911.

Ok, I realize I might be stating things a bit harshly, but I guess we're as frustrated as the rest of the good Americans - and we can't *do* anything. If we hold protest marches and other activities, it's not like the Shrub et al would notice. If we held a general strike - it wouldn't hurt the US. If you did - if you shut down America, they'd have to take notice.

I am just hoping that at least our (Norway's) next election (in September) will bring about a change in government (it most likely will). The conservative coalition government was elected on 9/10, 2001, and to most Norwegians's dismay, it has been quite pro-Bush. That wasn't an issue in the last election campaign - it is in this one, because they have supported the war in Afghanistan and Iraq against the people's wishes. They have lost about 2/3 of their support for it, though.

[Amonester]

13. Ok, then 2/3+ Canadians wish...

Norway's conservative coalition government will be defeated then.

Yep. Give 'em what they deserve to get... (DEFEAT)

(Is it possible?) If so:

:toast:

[DrDebug]

12. Didn't Belgium try that?

They had a law that somebody could somebody living in another country to country based on War Crimes, but some people tried it on George Bush and they kinda backed out

Belgium's War Crimes Law invokes the concept of universal jurisdiction to allow anyone to bring war crime charges in Belgian courts, regardless of where the alleged crimes have taken place. It is the only law which has been passed in the world which has done so.
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Universal jurisdiction
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What made the Belgian law extraordinary and controversial was that Belgium claimed the right to allow anyone to submit a war crime for prosecution in Belgian courts that occurred anywhere in the world, whether or not on Belgian territory, and whether or not a Belgian national was involved as either criminal or victim. This concept is called universal jurisdiction or universal competence.

Problems with implementation of the law
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Over the years filings included cases against American officials, including George H. W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkopf and Tommy Franks. Cases had also been filed against the leaders of many other countries, such as Iraq and Israel, and Cuba's Fidel Castro. The paperwork backing several of these filings was very limited, consisting out of a single fax or several pages.
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In an effort by the United States to pressure Belgium, United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld threatened to remove the NATO Headquarters from Brussels unless the Law was changed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Crimes_Law_(Belgium)