Bush address to UN today is a VICTIM PLAY. He'll come off whining and

[radwriter0555]

sobbing about how now one will come to our assistance, and we have to shoulder the burden all by ourselves.

The bush regime KNOWS that NO ONE will assist the US in fukcing over iraq.. this is a total poor poor george victim power play.

This is so rovian it's boring.

Thoughts?

[Skittles]

1. it's f***ing embarassing

I'm sick of this illiterate, illegitimate piece of SHIT representing my beloved America. HE SUCKS.

[madrchsod]

2. come on skittles

tell us how you realy feel about little georgie......

[LiberalVoice]

4. Does it really matter what he says?

He wont apologize for trying to drag germany and frances names through the mud. He wont admit he was wrong for the single reason he went to war. Unfortunatly he wont have to apologize for anything. The UN will probably help eventually and bush wont have to say hes wrong.

[AWD]

17. You're right

[Kamika]

3. he'll come off saying how great the US is

Hell say stuff like.. America bravely and with help of coalition went up against the brutal regime etc etc etc blabla and then we valiantly won and are now installing peace and democracy etc etc etc then hes gonna say it is NOW time for the rest of the world to take their share of responsibility for the democracy to prosper etc because there are pockets of "terrorists" that doesnt want freedom

[pnorman]

14. But will he be wearing his

Elite Force Aviator costume? That would let them all know that underlying those Soft Words is a kick-ass, 12" Action Figure!! That'll show them cheese-eating surrender monkeys!!
http://www.actionfigure2002.com/index.cfm?id=62041&fuseaction=browse&pageid=139

[smirkymonkey]

Do you think the UN will fall for it?

Personally, I just can't understand why ANYONE in a postion of any consequence would listen to the little bastard. He is a complete joke and I would think it would be humiliating to allow him any legitimacy whatsoever.

By the way, New York sucks today - miserable traffic, horns honking, sirens blowing, rainy, windy and gloomy. It's like a little black cloud follows him around.

[spinbaby]

18. Black clouds follow them wherever they go

Rummy was in Pittsburgh yesterday accompanied by dark clouds, cold rain, and wind. The gods don't approve.

[emad]

5. He slimed into office by stealth, now he's going to cover his ass

because he knows that no one is going to come to HIS assistance (ok, maybe his attorney and Poppy's legal fees).

He knows damned well WHO it was that arranged for a pan-Arab military force to restore equanimity to the area after the liberation of Kuwait in Gulf 1, and that the UN isn't going to play ball with him on anything anymore.

The Arab League has remained steadfastly silent on this one, because they know that at any given moment they could bring in a UN mandate for an indigenous Arab peacekeeping role, which would win international respect and restore some confidence in the area. Already UAE, Bahrain, Jordan, Egypt, Oman, Qatar and Syria have indicated their willingness to participate in the restoration or order but are unlikely to do so without full UN authority. And that means DUBYA OUT!

[bif]

6. He'll go on the attack

And blame other countries for the mess in Iraq. This is a guy who never takes the blame for his fuck-ups. You watch. He'll be beligerant as hell.

[rwork]

7. The blame France

again angle, will start up again. It worked for him before.

[Enraged_Ape]

8. I have it on good authority that he will take his cowboy boot off...

and bang it on the podium.

[ET Awful]

9. Is that before or after . . .

he throws a temper tantrum and threatens to hold his breath until he turns blue?

[Ripley]

10. This will be seen as a Personal Failure.

Since he has called it Personal Diplomacy. He can't spin this one.

I caught a snippet of CNN this am, some repuke said "I think he should be even more forceful and aggressive with the UN..." Hahahaha! yeah, that'll work. Insult them a little bit more.

This will only highlight his lack of leadership skills and diplomatic abilities on the world stage. Only the .000001% of the population who adores the moran would say "The world is all wrong, He is right."

[Jennellist]

11. Better late than never, I suppose

Regardless of how we felt about the war, the job that needs done now...peacekeeping and nuts and bolts humanitarian assistance is what the UN is for.

[ronatchig]

12. Here is what Tidell of the Guardian has to say:

snip:
A second Bush term promises more, not less, WMD proliferation and more confrontations. Iraq's fate, when contrasted with North Korea's, has taught others that only a nuclear arsenal may provide protection against US attack. Yet Bush's threats against Iran, Syria and Libya and his pre-emptive war doctrine presage only more conflicts. His failure to follow through on his Aqaba pledge of a new, balanced beginning for Israel and Palestine promises more, not less, Middle East strife.

By alienating Muslim opinion, and insulting key allies, Bush has undermined the fight against international terrorism. On a wide range of other issues, from the international criminal court to civil rights to climate change to multilateralism in its broadest sense, it is plainly in the national interest of many states to see the back of Bush.

Under Blair, Britain has lost its independent voice. But France, Germany, Russia and other big powers could and perhaps should hold out for a government in Washington that is more amenable to their vision of a multipolar world. Bush's growing weakness should certainly be recognized and exploited to contain his worst excesses in the last 15 months of his presidential term. This is already beginning to happen as countries prevaricate over US requests for troops and cash.
snip
Here is a link to the entire article:
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0922-08.htm
Mr. Tisdell lays out a convincing arguement for leaving Bushco hanging in the wind.

[GiovanniC]

13. Bush's Speech... Paraphrased, of course

Respected Diplomatics, Ambassatorians, Koffi Whatever-Yer-Name-Is, and Live Studio Audience:

About six months ago, the United States defined what all y'all meant when you unanimously voted for "serious consequences" if Saddam didn't disarm and comply with whatever I said.

And although the statue of Saddam went down for all the world to see, and I flew onto an aircraft carrier that said "Mission Accomplished" on it, we still have some problems. See, some terra'ists is blowing up my little army men every day, and it's bringing my poll numbers down. Plus, even my supporters are getting pissed off that this war is costing so much, because as you know, nothing pisses off a conservative like spending money on brown people that could be used for tax cuts for the obscenely rich.

Therefore, it's time to move on from our differences. All you old Europe chocolate makers need to suck it up and quit complaining about stuff like Freedom Fries and help America. My army men keep getting shot and blown up, so we need more troops to take their place. Y'all should send some. Y'all should also send money, because as I'm sure y'all know, Halliburton's services don't come cheap.

In closing, I would like to say that it will serve the purposes of the entire world community if you help us to steal the Iraqi people's oil and line Halliburton's pockets while denying basic services to the Iraqi people and actually f---cking up their lives WORSE than when Saddam was still hanging around.

As always, I'm George Dubya Bush -- peace out! Literally!

[nostamj]

15. Horsey...............

[Starpass]

16. I predicted the other day what this is going to be about---

These guys always use 'retro' - things that worked for them in the past. He's going there to again insult the UN (from all I've heard about this speech-----arrogance and no apologies); thus it is doomed to failure. BUT then he can excite his base by UN bashing and French bashing and German bashing, etc. Hell, maybe he can get the people liquored up to demanding we get out of the goddamn UN!!! They already know that at most they will get 15,000 troops and basically no one to share the financial burden. So I predict that this is simply a ploy to get his numbers re-charged. They can't understand that it's this stinking arrogance with the international community that is the cause of people turning against him.

[soleft]

19. No one at the UN is going to be happy to see *

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=128274

[salin]

20. Wonder if they are still bugging the living quarters of UN ambassadors?

The big problem for George is loss of credibility - so going in with no humility (which he can't display because he has none) - is impossible. He seems to be primed to go in - as he did to Dad's buds whenever he ran a company into the ground (2 times) - full of swagger, knowing that they would give him money (to curry favor), bail him out with NO cost to Georgie's pride. He didn't have to acknowledge in his own mind that he was seen as a failure and that they were only giving money to get favor with poppy (and govt gifts... er contract, perhaps?).

So here he does the same script.

But - he flaunted HIS power at the UN and told them a year ago that they were irrelevant if they didn't go along with him.

He and his chief representative (the then widely respected) Colin Powell blatantly lied to the body. They presented, now-known falsified or unproven and dubious charges as truth. Some folks were (temporarily) persuaded. THEN it came out that they had the audacity to bug the quarters of various UN reps from different countries to try to get a sense of their leanings in order to figure out how to persuade them (or were they also trying to get blackmail infor????) - AND this was sanctioned actions by the NSC.

George will fail.

Eventually, out of necessity, some help from the UN will come - but not without concessions. Bush will have to figure out a way to sell this as a "success" at home and hope that the public doesn't notice the inconsistency of what he told his loyal minions last night on Faux, and the concessions he will eventually have to make.