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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:37 PM
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Lib Dems vote to abolish fees

Donald MacLeod
Tuesday September 23, 2003

Liberal Democrat delegates overwhelmingly backed a motion today calling for the abolition of university tuition fees. The party wants extra funding for higher education to come from additional taxes on people earning more than £100,000 a year.
Speaking at the party's annual conference in Brighton, David Rendel, its higher education spokesman, attacked what he called four myths about the fees debate. One was that universities could only get extra money from fees - the money could come from extra taxation, he said.

Secondly, that universities would be better funded if top-up fees were imposed. "Any money the universities raise in top-up fees will be taken into account by the chancellor in the next spending review. The universities will not end up a penny richer as a result of top-up fees. That is precisely what happened when tuition fees were first introduced," he told delegates.

It was also a myth that the Tories had accepted the Liberal Democrat case against fees, he said. They were intent on reducing the number of students by an estimated 250,000 to save money, he claimed.

He also rebutted the myth that the Liberal Democrats in Scotland had accepted the retention of fees under the guise of a £2,000 graduate contribution. This money was dedicated to helping students with living costs and could not be used for fees, said Mr Rendel.

Earlier, Jonathan Munroe, from Cambridge, said students cared about access to higher education for the future generation. "Abolishing fees delivers access because students will not have to worry about not being able to afford higher education. This is the higher education policy students have been waiting for."

Andy Myles, form Edinburgh Central, said Labour had abandoned the principle of free education. "Where does it stop? What else in education can you charge for?" he demanded. Would fees be imposed on sixth-forms or nursery school? Mr Myles said that thanks to proportional representation in Scotland the Liberal Democrats had been able to stick to their principles and abolish fees.

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:43 PM
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1. Why don't they just have financial aid, and grants for poor students
(funded out of progressive income tax THROUGHOUT the full range of individual and corporate income tax)?

Also, if Oxford and Cambridge are getting 50% of the higher education budget, why are the rich kids going there paying the same tuition a poor kid pays to go to a polytechnic? (Ie, why are 98% of the university students in the UK subsidizing the cost of education 2% of the students who are, on the whole, better off, and will definitely have MUCH better career opportunities when they graduate?)



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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:54 PM
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2. yeah, like me
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