What would be a good response to Rove's 9/11 comments?

[Kurovski]

The White House has officially stated that Rove was "Telling it like it is", which is pretty much a raspberry to Howard Dean and his supporters, (Rove is such a stinkpot).

So how would you like to see Dean respond?

Personally, I'd like to hear something along the lines of "The White House responded to 9/11 by sending Americans to die in a place that had nothing to do with 9/11." and that "The newspapers 'tell it like it is' every day with reports of our losses in Iraq."

If he plays defense, and I'm not so sure that's a good idea, we can point out that "no one ever said a word about therapy after 9/11, but Karl may want to look for some one who can help him with his delusions."

Any other ideas?

There will be no apology from the White House and Bush's nanny, Karl, will not be fired. I don't want this comment standing there, another lie unattended to.

[rwenos]

1. Dean Should Rip Rove a New One

This is the PERFECT opportunity for Howard Dean to do the Edward R. Murrow thing. "Have you no shame, Mr. Rove?"

[Carolab]

18. Howard did answer Rove. It's on the news wires.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1576415&mesg_id=1576415

[Kurovski]

26. Thanks, Carolab,

We're done here then, unless Dean's comments don't gain traction and overtake Rove's comments in the media , in which case...

Come back at him till the media gets their soundbite.

Go Howard!

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=49363

[devilgrrl]

2. Republicans helped the enemy make 9/11 happen to begin with!

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[eleny]

3. I'd like us to call them incompetent and to keep at it like a mantra

[DesEtoiles]

4. My. Pet. Goat.

[Jim Sagle]

5. "Fuck off ya fuckin' slobbermouth!"

[Kurovski]

7. Heheheh! I'd add "PALE AND FLABBY slobbermouth" to that.

[AussieDave]

6. Here's a 9/11 widow's response to Rove

"Mr. Rove, the first thing that I would like to address is Afghanistan - the place that anyone with a true “understanding of 9/11” knows is a nation that actually has a connection to the 9/11 attacks. One month after 9/11, we invaded Afghanistan, took down the Taliban, and left without capturing Usama Bin Laden - the alleged perpetrator of the September 11th attacks. In the meantime, Afghanistan has carried out democratic elections, but continues to suffer from extreme violence and unrest. Poppy production (yes, Karl, the drug trade) is at an all time high, thus flooding the world market with heroin. And of course, the oil pipeline (a.k.a. the Caspian Sea pipeline) is better protected by U.S. troops who now have a “legitimate” excuse to be in that part of Afghanistan. Interesting isn't it Karl that the drug “rat line?? parallels the oil pipeline. (Yet, with all those troops guarding that same sliver of land, can you please explain how those drugs keep getting through?)"

And it gets better - here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/kristen-breitweiser/karl-roves-understandin_3103.html

[Kurovski]

15. Thanks for the link

I've had a lot of on-going respect and admiration for Kristen and the Jersey Girls. And listening to them has created a deeper emotional link to the events of 9/11 that is outside of my own personal experience.

I don't know if I could do all that the families of 9/11 have done. They are all remarkable people.

When folks around DU start saying "what's the point of keeping on?" maybe we should point to the individuals, who in the face of shocking loss, have kept on.

We at least owe something to them.

[AussieDave]

25. I just thought this was a brilliant

point-by-point indictment of everything that Smirky McChimp and his gang have cocked up since 9/11 - which we now know was the excuse for the original goal of taking out Saddam by any means.

Even Freepers would understand it, but whether they chose to is another matter.

And you're right - the Jersey Girls are true heroines - they deserved those medals instead of George Tenet, Tommy Franks and Paul Bremmer.

[Kurovski]

33. Kristen Breitweiser puts many journalists to shame.

Her writing is clear and direct, and she has done more research than many of the Corporate Media's most prominent journalists, who seem to basically take their stories direct from White House faxes.

This particular article is not to be missed.

It is in fact the very best and most authoritative response to Rove.

[Stirk]

8. "The Republicans watched the tragedy of 9-11 and saw dollar signs".

They used the grief of the nation and the unprecedented amount of support and trust they recieved to lie us into a war designed only to make them money."

[Stirk]

11. OR: "Mr. Rove insulted half the country- including many of our soldiers

who are over there fighting his Boss's war as we speak. He should resign and beg his boss for a pardon before he's impeached."

[Gemini Cat]

9. The White House responded by sitting on it's ass

during the summer of '01 and ignoring the PBDs that said BinLaden DETERMIND to strike. The White House responded by various high ranking assholes not taking public flights, during the summer of '01. Now why was that?
The White House responded on 9fucking11 by allowing their little chimpy-chimp-chief to stay in a Floridian classroom thusly jeopardizing the safety of the children, during the attack. The White House later responded by basically saying BIN WHO? And oh that chap isn't a priority. The White House responded by invading a country that had NOTHING to do with 9-11!
The White House did not respond well at all.

[Mythsaje]

10. Let's start

with the fact that it's impossible to fight an enemy you don't bother to understand.

If you don't know his motives and methods, you don't know his weaknesses.

If you don't understand his strategies, you can't counter them.

The liberal response to 9/11 wasn't THAT different from the conservative reaction...we were mad as hell. But what we DIDN'T want to do was go off half-cocked and make a bad situation worse.

As an example, I offer a single word. Iraq.

[fujiyama]

12. In the words of your VP Mr Rove...

Go fuck yourself.

[FloridaPat]

13. How about the WH spent over a year trying to bury the investigation

into 9-11 and tried to kill it once it got started. Or mention how the administration planned the invasion of Afghanistan before 9-11 and then the invasion of Iraq after. Or how the WH wined and dined the Taliban until they signed oil pipeline contracts with another country and then threatened them. Or how they helped the Saudis into and out of the country not through the usual channels.

There is so much these creeps have done illegally or wrong. Why do the Democrats have to think up come-backs to comments? All they should be saying is impeach and treason.

[Tom Kitten]

14. Basically he was being treasonous...

Attempting to ignite civil conflict in the homeland during the midst of the war on terror.

[EFerrari]

16. What is it about "fire this @sshole" that we don't understand?

He just insulted half of the citizenry. He just insulted our elected representatives. He just insulted the victims of 9/11 --

and you want to DEBATE HIM?

Call the White House, tomorrow and demand he be taken off the people's payroll

You pay his salary.

You want to keep him on and DEBATE the issue?

If you caught a burglar stealing your children, would you FORMULATE A RESPONSE? Because that's what this slime is doing. We all know that; he just did it too nakedly this time.

What are you waiting for?!

[Mythsaje]

17. If I caught a burgler stealing my children

he'd be leaving in an ambulance.

In this case, however, that's not an option.

I'd want to thrash him verbally and throw him to the wolves.

[EFerrari]

28. Fine. But thrash him to the right audience.

Debating this slime gives him too much credit. He's blown it this time, he's taken himself out. Let's not help him back into the ring for debate and thereby diminishing the severity of his transgression. Just my .02.

[Kurovski]

21. I want a response as press-worthy as Rove's.

I want the Dems to all stand against this. Sen. Clinton has stood, more will do so. But calling for his never-to-happen dismissal simply is not a strong position to put yourself in.

Standing up to bullies requires more.

This Rove comment was a direct response to all the press Dean has been getting. I think another sound bite to quash Rove's is in order.

All this is being played out before the American people. Many do not yet know all the things you or I know.

[Burried News]

19. You had four years to kill Osama, here's a plane ticket and a 45.

Bring us his body or don't come back alive.

Yes Yes we told you once before Jeff can go with you. Geez you're a whinner.

[flyarm]

20. HEY ROVE??

WHO TOLD THE FAA BOSS TO DESTROY THE 9/11 AIR CONTROLLERS TAPES???

WHO TOLD NORAD TO STAND DOWN??

AND WHO TOOK OUT THE " PUT " OPTIONS ON AMERICAN AND UNITED AIRLINES..ANSWER THAT ROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OHHHHHHH AND WHEN DOES TOM DELAY GET KICKED OUT OF THE REPUB PARTY???????????????????????????????

http://www.madcowprod.com/

Link from Abramoff to 9-11?
As the scandal embroiling House Major Domo Tom Delay and Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff grows hotter, there may be new revelations about the 9.11 attack. Less than one week before the 9.11 attack, for example, Atta and several other hijackers made a still-unexplained visit onboard one of Abramoff’s casino boats. What were they doing there? No one professes to know.

[Carolab]

22. Here's Move-On's response to Rove's comments.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=49365

[jpgray]

23. This is playing their dirty game, but--find a Dem 9/11 firefighter

Take out ad time, and have *him* ask Rove whether or not Democrats knew how to respond on 9/11.

[flyarm]

27. I AM RETIRED..now

one of 9/11 airlines FLIGHT crew during 9/11.. NY BASED ...AND I DONT BELIEVE "one word of these bastard murderers!!

[jobycom]

24. Kick him in the nuts. It's not like he believes what he's saying, he just

knows it will piss us off. He's waving a red towel turn us away from the DSM.

Kick him in the nuts, and get back to impeaching Bush. With any luck, we'll get Rove in front of the Hague alongside his "boss." Then we can laugh at whatever else he says.

[DefenseLawyer]

29. There should be no let up on this

if Rove was "telling it like it is" then our leaders should constantly be demanding that Bush and Cheney go on record as saying that only conservatives have enlisted and fought and died in the military. Make Scotty say that the president believes that Democrats want the terrorists to win. Rove wants this to paint Dems as wimps, we need to frame this as the administration saying half of the country are traitors. People remember 9/11 as a time when everyone came together, and except for the Michael Savage crowd, people aren't going to buy this. Rove has gone to the 9/11 well one too many times. Frame this properly and it won't easily be brushed aside.

[Kurovski]

31. Frame it and persist.

That's a good plan.

Keep it up until one way or another, they come clean.

Dean has called on Bush to repudiate rove's comments. I think dean may have a follow up if Bush does not address the comments.

At least he better, now that he made a request. I don't see him letting this one just lay there.

[More Than A Feeling]

30. I agree that "Fuck off!" is the only proper response.

Its the only language they speak and can understand.

[applegrove]

32. That Liberals, including President Carter, have been saying for

2 generations that U.S. foreign policy should be about enabling democracy - no matter what form it starts out as - and the institutions and trust (lessening of tribalism)that come with that.

Neocons had a policy against democracy in the Middle East and it was this that helped Saddam stay in power.

Liberals and Democrats were not the ones who needed to learn the psychology of Islamic Militants after 9/11. It was the Republicans that had to be taught that "democracy" was good and elite or strongman rule only created disenfranchisement resulting in religious exploitation by elites seeking to consolidate elite power created terrorist which is bad. Neocon policies of the 1980s encouraged Islamism. They are the ones on the psychological trip. They are the ones who needed to learn. Unfortunately they couldn't leave behind the idea of 'big guns', 'war plan hubris' or 'backward linkages with Big Oil' (which required the UN to not be involved in any attack) while they tried to adapt to the a changing world.

So once again..Karl Rove projects his issues onto his enemy.