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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:22 PM
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The way you make peace in the war on terror is by ending the drugs war
In case this needs repeating, the solution to the war on terror resides
in OUR government controlled by people who answer to us, legally, the
citizens of the United States; us free individuals who are at liberty to explore
freedom without overbearing police invasiveness, privacy erosion, and
a tearing down of civil goodwill.

It means being able to act freely, independently of sound mind and
body with the presumed goodwill of our government(s). It means that we
are free to speak and listen freely, to taste and inhale wisdom as well;
as part of our freedom of religion. The most heinous crimes in society,
violent felonies and high crimes, have been supplanted by a silly war
that has failed for over 50 years, and has dumped trained violent
terrorists in to our midst, those who are trained to distribute unknown
substances to our youth, instead of known ones we control ourselves.

Part of freedom is to be able to eat or smoke anything that grows
on this gods green earth. As all of life has a lesson to teach, and
no man or woman should be contained from exploring life. It is to
outlaw the human spirit itself, by imposing an impossible condition
that individuals "not" explore what is truth.

There is ONE single problem in our world: WEAPONS PROLIFERATION.
Everything else is a fog of confusion, a deliberate misfocus to keep
public mind distracted to boost WEAPONS PROLIFERATION. TO confuse
a stoned woman on the beach for a terrorist is ludicrous, as she is
merely enjoying the sun. THe person who supplied 40
kilograms of military grade explosive to the british tube system,
is forgotten for some brainwashed kids with backpacks. THe former is
weapons proliferation, the most heinous crime, the cause, and problem.

War, and the war on drugs and terror in specific, is a subsidy to
police and weapons proliferation, a subsidy to global crime
networks that grow like mushrooms, unkillable, permanent in their
tenacity to fill the demand for drugs that WE ARE USING because WE demand, each in our private way, to suck on the drug of our choice,
be it television, hatred, sex, cheap gasoline, video games, DU,
Free republic, an opium poppy, a cacao leaf or a hemp plant,
a coffee bean, fermented barley, distilled fermented potato mash, distilled barley mash or fermented grapes.

When the drugs war is ended, crime once again becomes very simple.
Victem-crime is the felony, and all non-victem actions are NOT CRIMES.
Weapons proliferation, terrorism, rape and illegal aggressive war
are the crimes we should be prosecuting, but instead we've deployed
an army against the physics of the law of supply and demand, in order
that weapons are proliferated to countries like pakistan, columbia,
egypt, saudi arabia.

Does humanity see the wisdom in ending this weapons proliferation?
Or are they institutionally stupid, banal and criminal? I'm flummoxed
as to this dissonance in social mind, that we can set our entire
society up to proliferate weapons and terrorism, institutionally
and then to cover it in lace curtains.

They could have used petrol instead of C4, and
airplanes instead of bombs, but then that metadata itself is the weapon,
a social virus, 50 years old and still evolving like a plague, that
was started by the PSYOPS weapons proliferators in iran, beiruit & afganistan during the CIA's dirty wars. Our own guerilla warfare training and weapons porliferation people have created our enemy.
And all of that, about the war on drugs, that has now afganistan at breathtaking production rates, exporting its way back to health because we've foolishly stopped our own people from growing their own
poppies.

Gasoline is just another drug, and if it were illegal, huge criminal
cartels would drill it and distribute it for a price, stealing it
from whomever they might at gunpoint. Its all about ending the
war on drugs, and seeing it as "our" demand for an addiction that is
killing us AND them.

/rant
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:27 PM
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1. I agree
The drug war is a farce and needs to be re-thought from the ground up.

Period.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:31 PM
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2. The human race is still a confused adolescent
who is just finding out about his true nature and exploring the natural impulses with fear and trepidation.

It will be sometime before this adolescent learns how to accept itself and become a productive adult.

Until then, this young race will continue to supress the impulses that are perfectly safe and natural out shame and self-loathing.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 07:41 PM
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6. very well put
That pretty much captures the state of mind that has made the laws.

Just how long must we wait for that productive adult.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:31 PM
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3. Too many people getting rich now off of the drug trade.
Money launderers, lawyers, bail bonds agts. Provides a market for all types of gadgetry too. The police reap a bonanza of confiscated property and cash.

I agree with sweetheart, the OP is how it should be resolved.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:15 PM
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4. "war on drugs" is war to become the biggest drug cartel
No better way to corner the market than to co-opt the US military to gun down the competing drug cartels.

It's interesting if you compare the drug money coming into the US against the current account deficit.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:21 PM
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5. The CIA is the biggest drug dealer on the planet
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 03:22 PM by firefox
NarcoNews restored Gary Webb;s "Dark Alliance" to the Internet. The DU thread presenting the news came ten minutes after your thread-http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x140226

The CIA is exploiting the human condition and prohibition is about driving the price up of things that are addictive for the profits that others can only dream of. How much cola would Coke and Pepsi sell if they would have never added caffeine and what substance does more harm than refined sugar to the health of Americans?

Prohibit prohibition and get rid of the criminals in government that support it. This police state stuff is all about controlling the herd and destroying the Constitution along with unalienable rights.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:22 AM
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8. Coincidentally, I had just changed my sig line the other day
(see below).

Gary Webb had found the truth and was 'suicided' for it. Two bullets to the head with a revolver, yeah now tell me another one.

He was also writing about a period of time that I had direct experience in. From 1985 - 1988 I had a job that included doing home visits into some of Miami's worst neighborhoods. I saw first hand what Reagan's so called War on Drugs had done to the ghetto and how it destroyed so many lives. Around 1985 Reagan decided to go after the marijuana smugglers. Big freighters would come in off the coast of Florida and speed boats would go out to pick up their loads. They were easy targets and the Coast Guard went after them with a vengeance.

At the same time somehow folks figured out that smoking cocaine was an effective way to get high. For some reason crack was incredibly cheap all of a sudden compared to regular cocaine that people had been snorting. Almost over night entire communities were devastated. Before 1985 pot was the drug of choice in these areas and the worst pot did to anyone was to mellow them out and give them the munchies. Crack was another story entirely. People got all hopped up and crazy. The ghetto became extremely dangerous and there were areas that we could no longer go into. Thanks Ronnie, your war was a great success, wasn't it?

RIP Gary Webb, at least your words still live on.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 05:31 AM
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7. kique
for monday
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:34 AM
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9. yes, yes and yes
I have been continually dismayed that few Dems ever even mention the fascist/failed drug war or US weapons proliferation around the world.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:02 AM
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13. It cuts to the root of opposition cowardice
As much as people claim to stand for truth against power, the amount of
truth they stand for is rather small, and are unwilling to oppose
true tyrrany or admit a democratic mistake and stand for justice.

I did not even mention the racism endemic in the WOD in the OP, and this
thread still sinks like a rock...

I am dismayed as well, G_j... for all those millions persecuted, you'd
think that the democratic party would stand up for the little guy instead
of this hiding head in sand behaviour.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:12 AM
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10. legalize
Make all drugs legal. I don't think any of them are much worse than tobacco or alcohol.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:16 PM
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11. Impossible. The "Drug War" is CRUCIAL to the U.S. Military!
Marijuana and coca bushes and poppies and khat and <___________> (insert favorite plant) grow throughout the world. This gives the U.S. government a terrific excuse to go to Country X and say, "We're just here to kill the bad, bad plants and screw with your government and your economy but it's in your interest because you don't want drugs in the hands of your babies, do you?" And away we go, to the shores of Tripoli! or wherever the hell.... Never mind about legalization and control and taxation, even as we see proof that it works! Besides, that would sink the multi-billion dollar prison industry in this fair, fair land.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 06:18 PM
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12. kique
for tuesday
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