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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:22 PM
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I'm getting scared...
The last time Bush's poll numbers were this low, he also went to his ranch for summer vacation.

We all know what happened after that...

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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:23 PM
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1. And he's leavin' Unkle Dick in the bunker!!!
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared:
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:24 PM
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2. Remind me
CAFTA caused me some brain damage. What happened when Shrub went to his ranch with low approval numbers?
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:27 PM
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3. I'm talking about August 2001...
His numbers haven't been this low since before 9/11
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:30 PM
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6. Oh yeah
A terrorist attack would do wonders. We could just hand our nation over to the WTO and let them run the place.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:27 PM
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4. it was called ....
..... 9/11

Remember the 8/6/01 PDB ..... bin Laden want to attack the inside the United
States ......

I hope he goes out out with his chain saw ...... and cuts brush.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:30 PM
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7. Remember the 8/6/01 PDB
Though they claimed nobody ever thought of aircraft as weapons, while
Bush was in Crawford ignoring the "Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US"
memo he had 24-hour fighter air cover, says Rep. Cynthia McKinney.

http://www.counterpunch.org/mckinney0918.html


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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:47 PM
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11. Watch Flash Gordon the 1980s movie
And you'll see Flash ram Ming the Merciless' palace from the air.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:29 PM
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5. Yeah, and another 9-11 type attack won't help this time.
It'll have to be worse. :scared:
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:33 PM
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8. In August there will be
a mock nuclear event in either south or north carolina.
Fema is putting on the show........
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:44 PM
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10. What are you talking about????
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 03:50 PM by converted_democrat
I live 12 miles from a nuke plant in Florida, what are you talking about? Please elaborate, you're scaring the shit out of me...... I have a three year old to keep safe. Please tell me what your talking about.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:06 PM
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18. Here's the link to Northcom..
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 05:09 PM by vickiss
I saved this awhile ago. No dates are given.
It may just be paranoia from the other "coincidences".
It's Charleston, SC. (link is acting weird, working one time, next not)
http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.showstory&storyid=C9BFBBAC-F3CA-BD2E-008C7B34AFE33114
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:55 PM
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12. Are you sure about this, smurfygirl?
I'm working out of State, but my hubby is in N.C. I remember too well that there were "mock attacks" exercises going on on the morning of 9/11...which is why, "they say", the jets weren't scrambled in time. And FEMA was stationed ACROSS THE STREET from the twin towers.

How con-veeeen-ient!

If they're really doing this "mock nuclear attack", there are one helluva lot of military bases in N.C. where "terrorists" would LOVE to make some headlines!

:kick::kick::kick:
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:33 PM
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19. Not to add to the paranoia
But I just read a similar weblog about this same discussion here:

"...Cheney, a known PNAC kingpin, has ordered plans to be drawn up preparing for a launch of a nuclear attack on Iran to be used as a retaliation for a massive terror attack on the US. This information has come from several rather reliable sources. At the same time a stepped up PR campaign to make the public think Iran is developing nuclear weapons is underway.

Obviously Cheney can not launch an attack of any kind on Iran without provocation. I doubt that this nation will allow another Iraq to take place. So according to the rumor mill there are terror events planned that will provide the justification for a new military and perhaps nuclear strike by the PNAC crew. My sources tell me that there will be one or more events taking place to justify such actions. The events are as follows: (AGAIN, I REITERATE THAT THIS IS UNCORROBORATED RUMOR!)

1. Terror attacks, perhaps in the form of perceived suicide bombings, will take place at venues that represent the heart of America, such as a baseball game or holiday celebration.
2. A US warship will come under attack in the Persian Gulf.
3. Nuclear terror will reach American shores. Small nuclear devices will go off in one or more American cities. These cities are to be large but not key cities like New York or LA. Death tolls of 200,000 per event are predicted.
4. I have received information from 2 sources (both sources claim CIA connections), that Mossad has started to pull their agents out of the US in anticipation of the nuclear events.

Some facts to go along with the rumors:
1. The events of 9/11 took place on a day and at the same time of day that hijacking and terror drills in the northeast (NY specifically) were taking place.
2. The London bombings took place as drills to deal with the exact kind of event were taking place.
3. Nuclear preparedness drills are to take place in the US in August of this year.

Again…this is all just crazy rumor right now..."

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=69

Which was originally posted by veracity on this DU thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1970380

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:45 PM
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22. If this is true
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 05:45 PM by DoYouEverWonder
then Cheney needs to be arrested immediately. This is beyond criminal. This is total insanity.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:38 AM
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24. Jesus!
I hope it's just a crazy rumor.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:49 PM
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13. on 9/11 there were numerous such exercises
We've only found one. Where are the rest?
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:34 AM
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23. Wasn't it discussed in GD that there were "exercises" going on, on 7/7?
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 09:35 AM by converted_democrat
In London? The threads just recently got moved to the 9-11 forum, but I'm sure I read about it here in GD first.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 03:36 PM
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9. Just watching CNN
They did a piece on Bush's lowest ever poll ratings. The woman (don't know who she was - they all like alike to me) said it could be because of support for Iraq war is going down. Then she contradicted herself saying the poll numbers on just support for Iraq war hadn't changed in 3 weeks.

Duh? No mention of Rove, Bolton, or Roberts or any indication AT ALL how that might be affecting Bush's approval ratings. Hell, she didn't even say a PEEP about Social Security, Bankruptcy Bill, unemployment/layoffs, etc, etc.

Now I know why I don't watch the talking heads anymore. I can read far more about what is going on in this country and the world from just reading this board.

Cable News is WORTHLESS.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:53 PM
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14. A nuclear attack on US soil
Cheney has been frothing at the mouth.....and has instructed STRATCOM to come up with a plan to attack Iran with nuclear weapons should a "911 type" attack occur on US soil.

I fear for you guys too. I fear for us all. Bolton must be in place in the US first. He will be the cheerleader to attack Iran REGARDLESS of any evidence. The UN will fold under. That is Bolton's mission....not to reform the UN - to dismantle it.

They have come too far to stop now. Plamegate, Boltongate, Treasongate or whatever gate you want - none of it will stop them.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:01 PM
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17. I agree about Bolton
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 05:02 PM by FreedomAngel82
They have to get him through first. And you're right. I've always had a belief that his job is to dismantle the UN and re-do it with Bush loyalist and himself being the head.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:42 PM
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21. So he wants Bolton "in" before the planned attack in August?
Is that why he's going to make the recess appointment, as soon as the hill crowd goes home? Or will he use the attack, planned for when the hill crowd is gone, to use that as an excuse to appoint Bolton?

:kick::kick::kick:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 04:56 PM
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15. I am hoping that the London
bombings will be enough terra for a while. I mean they are still the talk of the news. Every day they show them arresting muslims, I grow so weary of this. Time to call my cat....

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:00 PM
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16. I have thought about that myself
He's supposed to be going on vacation next month as well I believe. I think it would be a mistake personally. Remember last year Bush made the "war on terror" the main part of his campaign since he had nothing else to run on. Cheney said if you vote for the wrong person you'd get attacked again so wouldn't that show the public they failed? On the one hand I think they'd do it since they did before but I don't remember reading about a second "pearl harbor" event in the plans. I'll have to go back and read or if someone else can see. I just don't know if they'd do it but I do worry. :\ Especially cities like San Francisco, NYC, DC, etc.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 05:37 PM
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20. Thing is that they don't give a hoot what they said before
Cheney said if you vote for the wrong person you'd get attacked again so wouldn't that show the public they failed?

They've said many things in the past that naysayers have been proven to be correct - and themselves wrong - and it matters little. Public opinion is no longer a concern of theirs. They will massage whatever message they need to - to get Iran attacked....as per the PNAC plan.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:52 AM
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25. They have everything in place for martial law to be declared
Promises don't mean squat coming from liars, thieves and murderers.
The plan is almost to fruition...and they aren't going to stop at anything.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:06 AM
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26. After London, Americans will be less likely to question an attack
here.

In fact, at the moment, we feel primed for it, don't you think?

It almost feels inevitable...
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