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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:49 AM
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Cindy is effective now because Plamegate investigations weakened
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 11:54 AM by GreenPartyVoter
Bu$h's credibility standings. And when ** doesn't speak with her and the indictments are handed down, ** will get sucked away by the undertow.

What do you think?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:50 AM
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1. also in reverse, this might help plamegate
With the media focus off Plamegate, they will feel less of a need to attack Fitzgerald.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:51 AM
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4. Good point!
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:51 AM
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2. keep wishing, it doesn't hurt. but msm is owned by the corps, and bush is
their boy
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:55 AM
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6. Media may be owned by large corporations...
But you have to remember that their own size prevents them from policing their individual papers. It's not as though every reporter and editor is constantly in touch with someone from the corporation that owns that paper.

And that means that, while newspapers may be owned by corporations, an intrepid editor with a good staff of reporters can still do great things -- they may lose their jobs, but hey...
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:09 PM
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21. HA. you said it "they may lose their jobs". man you would be
surprised at how people will guard their jobs when there is a sexy little babe waiting for them at home. haven't you seen the stepford wifes.

:~)
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 02:38 PM
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23. So where's a single editor when you need one?
:evilgrin:
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:51 AM
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3. the longer he ignores Cindy
the more the word "coward" is heard applying to him...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:03 PM
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8. So true. Did ya see the toons for today? two priceless ones on that note
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 12:07 PM by GreenPartyVoter


and my personal fave:

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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:04 PM
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9. Haha
first I had seen them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thanks
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:07 PM
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12. The rocking horse is killer, eh?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:05 PM
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20. That second one is hilarious!
The rocking horse! :rofl: :spray: :rofl:
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:52 AM
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5. I think I hope like crazy you are right!
And that ** gets sucked so far under that he'll never be seen or heard from again.

Well, anything's possible!

Tired Old Cynic
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:17 PM
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17. Drowned in the sea or popular opinion. I like it.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 11:55 AM
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7. You're right, and it works both ways
The next bout of Plamegate news will be received with Bush weakened by Cindy.

This is what I was advocating when I was against jumping on Roberts right after Bush nominated him -- I was saying that we should concentrate on things that can immediately weaken Bush, so that when the hearings do start, he doesn't have much political capital to bargain with.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:47 PM
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18. Not much capital at all these days. Sneaking Bolton into the UN, promising
to reduce troops and instead raising their #s, ignoring Cindy, refusing to fire Rove... and on and on it goes.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:04 PM
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10. DSM hurt too, tremendously. While nothing direct and concrete may come...
Edited on Thu Aug-11-05 12:05 PM by Brotherjohn
... from the DSM, the fact of the matter is this:

Everyone who follows the news at all found out that, at the highest levels of our chief ally's government, it was felt that Bush "fixed" the facts and intelligence to justify the Iraq War.

And it was written in black and white.

Evrything he claims from now on, including regarding the Iraq War, will be taken with a grain of salt, at the least. And despite my (and everyone else's here) fears, it will be much harder for him to go into Iran, as they're so obviously pushing for as we speak.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:07 PM
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14. DSM is completely tied into the Plame Affair. I consider them to be two
sides of the same page.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:04 PM
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11. I agree, everything that's happening recently is weakening king *
His polls are reflecting that fact. There's really nothing that can happen before 06 and 08 that will strengthen their numbers, which is why I'm afraid of what BushCo has planned. It has to be big and it has to involve lots of death to make any difference. :scared:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:08 PM
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15. Like wiping out Hollyweird
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:07 PM
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13. Best way to deal with a bully...
...is to punch him square in the nose.

Wasn't that Bush's reason for going to war with Iraq? Oh, wait, never mind. But seriously, Bush is off-kilter because the GOP isn't programmed to deal with this. We're "hippies and pacifists", but here we are, punching them square in the nose. Chindy, Hacket <sp>, Dean ... demonstrating that apparently, the US public genuinely likes those that say, "Hold it now, that's bullshit!"

The thing is, the more people that join her, the more it's not JUST about Gold Star mothers wanting to confront Bush. It's the fact that for five years, Bush has surrounded himself with yes men and people that are forced to tell him only what he wants to hear. And the results have been disastrous. They now spend more time trying to spin PR and damage control for their numerous fuck-ups than they spend fucking up more stuff (although they are really trying), and that is a major victory.

It's time that the coward Bush was forced to listen to some NO men (and women). Their narrow view of reality has done severe ill to this nation, and they MUST be confronted.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 12:12 PM
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16. Our gov't is full of bullies. Nary a statesman in sight when it comes to
our face to the world. *siiiigh*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:01 PM
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19. "...Plamegate investigations weakened"....
What are you talking about?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-05 01:14 PM
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22. His popular opinion appeared to go down during Scotty's "Ongoing
investigation" press briefings.
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