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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:01 PM
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John Kerry's Enron Hypocrisy
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:04 PM
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1. Teresa's charity knew Enron was cooking the books?
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 08:09 PM by blm
Lots of corporate thugs get on charity boards to burnish their image.

Is there a substantial charge here against Kerry? Would you like to see YOUR candidate, Howie Dean debate Kerry on the environment? How about just a close scrutiny of their records?

Here are some REAL charges against Howie Dean who sounds alot like Bush:


http://timesargus.nybor.com/Archive/Articles/Article/23996

MONTPELIER - A leading environmentalist was asked to leave Gov. Howard Dean's council of environmental advisers after she criticized the governor's short-lived proposal for a coal-fired power plant in Vermont.

Elizabeth Courtney, executive director of the Vermont Natural Resources Council, was one of 20 members of the governor's environmental council, which meets about once every three months with the governor.

But after Courtney wrote a newspaper opinion piece faulting Dean for his brief advocacy of a coal plant, she learned she was no longer welcome on the council. David Rocchio, the governor's legal counsel, wrote her late last month to say she will be replaced on the council by VNRC's board chairman. The move came after she had written the governor on energy issues and showed his staff her draft newspaper piece, Courtney said.

"From the tone of your letter (to the governor), the content of your (newspaper) essay, and your rejection of the concerns we have raised with you in conversation, it appears that you do not seek a dialogue," Rocchio wrote to Courtney and to VNRC's board. "The governor sees little point in continuing to try to discuss these issues with you."

Meanwhile, another prominent environmentalist - Mark Sinclair, Vermont director of the Conservation Law Foundation - was also asked to step down from the council. Sinclair said it was not yet clear whether he was being removed to make way for another environmentalist, as he was told, or because he had criticized Dean's environmental policies.
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http://timesargus.nybor.com/Legislature/Story/43125.html


Dean raises money from energy sources

February 27, 2002

By David Gram

ASSOCIATED PRESS

MONTPELIER — When Gov. Howard Dean wanted to raise money for a possible presidential bid, he followed the example of a former governor of Texas and called on his friends in the energy industry.

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“Administration actions going back some years betray an inappropriate coziness with the utilities,” said Paul Burns, executive director of the Vermont Public Service Research Group. “I am not prepared to say it’s a result of contributions given. But these contributions present the appearance of impropriety or appearance of influence that it probably would have been better to avoid.”

Dean’s close relationship with utility representatives dates back to the day he became governor in 1991. A lobbyist for Green Mountain Power and a GMP employee were among the first people Dean called in to help his transition.

A list of the Governor’s Council of Economic Advisers includes Green Mountain Power Corp.’s chairman, two company board members and a vice president, all of whom made donations to the Fund For A Healthy America. It also includes two longtime utility lobbyists.

Over the years, the governor has sided with the utilities on many of the most pressing issues, including the push for deregulation of the electric industry, and later backing away from that as a goal. Among other major decisions:

— After years of pushing for the companies to absorb the excess costs of their expensive contract with Hydro-Quebec, Dean’s Department of Public Service agreed to let ratepayers be billed for more than 90 percent of what those excess costs are expected to be in the coming years. The extra costs will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:11 PM
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2. Yes, closer
scrutiny of Dean's records (the unsealed ones, I guess) would be interesting too, I am sure.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:13 PM
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3. What do you expect his full record looks like
considering he favored deregulating electricity.

Hell, I'd like to see Howie debate Dennis Kucinich on that issue. heh.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:16 PM
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4. would be interesting
DK stood bravely on that bridge 25 years ago, and he wasnt popular for it but he is admired by Cleveland in the long run for that, and he saved them much. Hey you two know that Kucinich has been literally in politics yet has the most humblest background since the youngest age, he was 21 when he ran for city councilman, he lost though but next year he came back. Theres much to like about DK.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:41 PM
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6. Damn straight!
'Twould be interesting.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:03 AM
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14. Ms Heinz
has vast oil and gas holdings. Hmmmmm.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:49 AM
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15. Dean holds GE stock and carries water for pharma corps.
and energy companies.

John Kerry is 100% for FULLY funding alternative fuel research, and dedicated to this nation breaking its reliance on oil. Gas stocks be damned. What a great man.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:17 PM
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5. Man, I'll be glad when the new rules are enacted
so posts like this will immediately be locked.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:42 PM
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7. Did you find your cat?
Off topic, I know.

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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:44 PM
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8. Getting it in just under the wire
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:45 PM
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9. Who cares?
In light of his wife's involvement with Ken Lay, Senator John Kerry's criticism of Bush for being influenced by Enron seems hypocritical.

I'd say "In light of his wife's involvement with Ken Lay, Senator John Kerry's criticism of Bush for being influenced by Enron seems politically couragous considering the inevitability of partisan accusations like 'Hypocrisy!' "
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:53 PM
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10. good to see a Dean vs. Kerry thread, I'm bored of the Clark vs. Dean
Dean vs. Kerry, reminds me of old times. :)

Not surprised that Kerry the Skull & Bones Brahmin aristocrat and his billionaire heiress wife have shady connections to everything. Kerry is a great Senator and I hope he continues to be the good liberal Democratic Senator that he is. Kerry will go down in the history books as one of the greats.


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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 08:55 PM
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11. You left out PNAC!!
and dont think I don't know why! :-)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 09:00 PM
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12. And the Illuminati...
Don't forget he's a member of the Illuminati, which Henry Heinz also was...oh, never mind!
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 09:01 PM
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13. Oh, and
"Great post." (Ben Stein voice).

Remember, fellow millionaires (Dean) who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
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clar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:10 AM
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16. All of this is stupid
I don't think Kerry's hypocritical at all as regards this situation. However, I want to note that the wealth of Dean as compared to JK simply can't be compared. Dean is not rich. Being worth between 3 and 4 million is not being worth over 100 million. That's what JK is worth, and that's without taking into consideration his wife's money.
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