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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 09:57 PM
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Will I be able to post a topic using the name Weasely Clark after tomorrow
I HAD to tell Y'all this before the deadline and ask if the Serbian war criminal's cap fit Weasely clark should her WEAR it???


My mother in law used to be an anti-abortion Bush lover who basically thought the Republicans were IT.

As she had several teenage daughters her views on abortion changed some and she moderated her views but still was kinda sick of "slick willy" and his shenanigans.

Bush Economics kicked in and she lost her job and her house (her husband - more conservative than she - died of cancer) and she ended up out of work and practically homeless.

She now blames Bush et al.

When we were watching tv and she learned about the good general and his republican background she had one statement:


Has anybody called him Weasely Clark yet???


I had to share...
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 09:58 PM
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1. WEASLEY CLARK!!!!!
OMG -- I LOVE IT!!

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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:00 PM
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3. Watch it! 'Cause "Weasley", as you call him...
May just be your party's nominee! :eyes:

B-)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:11 PM
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:11 PM
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15. Ron or the Twins?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:00 PM
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2. I'm sure the freepers have thought of it already
it's typical of their tactics really
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:01 PM
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5. yup - hair of the dog
turnabout is fair play

considering how I feel that clark is probably a damn freeper IMHOPINION

But since tomorrow that may be taboo

Y'know

It HAD to be said
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:21 AM
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88. Think what you will,
but it is completely untrue.
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:02 PM
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8. No, actually, the "weasel" is more fitting for the Democrats
to call him, because to us, that's what he is.

The freepers should LOVE him.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:56 PM
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55. Funny
An acquaintance of mine thought of this one a while ago and we agreed the smear machine on the other side would soon adopt it. We were wrong. The smear machine on this side found it first.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:01 PM
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4. I think I'll miss this kind of post most of all.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 10:01 PM by eileen_d
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:04 PM
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10. I love that Novak teddy bear
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:01 PM
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6. Yeah
That's what the FReepers call him.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:01 PM
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7. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU REBEL!!!!
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:02 PM
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9. I'm curious, 7thson... which of the Dem candidates do you support? nt
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:43 PM
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31. I support in my dreams the following people for President :
In this order

Gore
Feingold
Bernie Sanders
Hillary
Kucinich
Dean
Gephardt
Edwards
Nader
Lieberman

I would add people and a few in higher positions if they were running and I had a chance to think about it

But My favorite ticket right now in reality is Dean/Edwards

Gephardt and Kucinich won't sell to Americans who are mostly ignorant uptight and anal

Braun and the Florida dude are not real contenders, though I like them both abnd would vote for them if they were the candidates.

I think Edwards is GREAT in many respects but a little too green and conservative for me -- but a good VP candidate and will hold off a Dean assassination attempt by the BFEE since he is NOT BFEE and is anticorporate (his history as a lawyer is iun fighting and beating big business in court)

I am totally opposed to Kerry and Clark

I will certainly vote democrat unless a viable third party candidate were to emerge and Kerry or Clark is the dem nominee
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:08 PM
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11. Based on the new rules (if passed) this will be forbidden..
3. Discussion topics about whether a Democratic candidate is actually a member of the Democratic Party are forbidden. Discussion topics which argue that a Democratic candidate is actually a stealth Republican or a secret friend of George W. Bush are forbidden.

4. Discussion topics which advocate splitting the Democratic Party into separate parties are forbidden. Discussion topics which advocate that a particular group of people leave the Democratic party are forbidden. Discussion topics which advocate supporting parties other than the Democratic party or supporting candidates who are not Democrats are forbidden, except in political races where there is no Democratic party candidate.

5. Discussion threads which paint supporters of any Democratic candidate in a negative light are forbidden.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:32 PM
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25. Eet ees Verboten! Gott mit uns!
Ve be bannink der scheissposten venever zey say zings vich ve find offensive, jah? Ven you zink uf der demokratischer Untergrund, you zink of der demokratische Sammelnummer, unt ve all be knowink all Meinungsverschiedenheit ist verboten.

Jah? Ve be havink even more questions from die Idioten? Zen ve be bannink EVERYTHING!

</Klink>
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:33 PM
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29. I don't know if I agree with your post
But I'm digging on "scheissposten" :smoke:
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:10 PM
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12. I don't even know who you people are anymore
And increasingly, I don't want to.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:01 PM
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38. I resemble that remark!!!
Thanks.

Psychefunkadelicment!!!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:12 PM
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16. Only if I'm allowed to post about Coward Dean.

Who da Nader?
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:15 PM
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17. Wow
I'm really disappointed to see a Kucinich supporter bash Dean and stick up for Clark. I mean, Kucinich and Clark are like polar opposites.

I respect 90% of the Kucinich supporters. You, however, fall in the other category now.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:17 PM
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19. Wow - pot, kettle, black.
Weasely Clark -> good
Coward Dean -> bad
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:55 PM
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35. Yes, some can dish it out but can't take it. I don't think calling

Democratic candidates names is a good thing for Democrats to be doing.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:33 PM
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28. If you knew her like I did you would respect her
I dont like Clark either Closer, I know DBDB she is a good person, I dont think shes sticking up for Clark but she doesnt like Dean much. I stick up for Kerry and other candiates when I must. I have to admit, I have my confusions and questions about Clark.
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:44 PM
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32. You might "know" her
but to call Dean a coward is pretty classless (not to mention baseless).

Calling Clark "weasel" on the other hand, is only fitting. There are many worse things he could be called, and far, far more fitting.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:49 PM
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34. yes
it is. I am just saying DBDB at heart is a good person.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:58 PM
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37. Thanks, John! I don't want either Clark or Dean to be the nominee

but even less do I want Dems at DU calling ANY Dem candidate names.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:32 PM
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46. np
Cassandra tells me you dont like Clark either. I thought so.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:40 PM
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52. so insulting and name-calling
are one-way streets?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 01:40 PM
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96. Really? What brave thing has Dean done?
Did he speak in front of the antiwar protests?

Did he allow cameras at the signing of the civil unions bill that the Vermont Supreme Court ruled into law?

Was he brave on MTP to back up Bush OVER Gore and Kerry when they were attacking his leadership in July 2002?

Was he BRAVELY supporting Bush and his energy company donors in Vermont on Yucca Mt.?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 01:48 PM
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97. Dean was brave just like Kerry when he capitulated to Bush*
Over war, over patriot act, homeland gestapo....oh and missing the Mini Nuke vote.

Yes John Kerry Brave politician. Votes to save his ass. Just in case.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 01:51 PM
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98. Kerry's negotiating helped CURTAIL Bush
whether you decide to use your fairness lenses or not, as is usually the case with your irrational hatred of Kerry.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:36 PM
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48. Sure bash the dems so republicans can sit back and laugh.
.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:39 PM
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51. It isn't a Dem
that is being bashed.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:31 AM
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91. Closer.
I respect your opinion, but could you prove to me that 'Kucinich and Clark are polar opposites', besides that fact that Clark is a general and Kucinich is an unequivocal pacifist?

To my knowledge, Dean and Kucinich have more ideological differences. (gun control, flag burning et al.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:56 AM
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93. Dean and Kucinich are further apart than
Clark and Kucinich.

In fact, the closest candidate to Kucinich and also Wellstone is Kerry and yet, Dean calls him "Bushlite" all the time. Pretty dishonest of Dean, eh?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:16 PM
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18. COWARD DEAN! BOO YAH!
...he who sealeth his Governorship records!
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:29 AM
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66. Coward Dean, Dennis Kookcinich, Carol Mostly Gone...
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 08:41 AM by returnable
...John "Sinking Like" Leadwards, Weasley Clark, John Scary, Dick Gimphardt, Bob Who?, Al "Pool" Sharkton

I hope we get this out of our systems soon. This is really starting to look like freeper land....

In the meantime, a new group of idiots just made my ignore list.

:toast:



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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:51 AM
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75. You mean "Draft Dodger Dean"
Wonder what poor guy had to take his place when Dean weasled out of the Draft.

Dean - the only candidate who actually makes Bush's awol status irrelevant.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:26 AM
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89. Coward Dean?
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 10:27 AM by _NorCal_D_
Weasly Clark?

Let's not give ammo to the freepers.
:eyes:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:29 PM
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24. Negative Comments on Clark and Kerry and Dean and...
choose a topic-any topic!
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:32 PM
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27. I detest this stuff because I like
every one of these candidates. Just hate to see any of them torn apart like this.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:11 PM
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41. Well - I don't like
several of these candidates.

I would probably vote for even them over Bush though unless there was a reasonable and possible alternative


I'd have to hold my nose and see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil to do so

PLUS, my primary concern with my critiques is to see that neither Kerry nor Clark are acdeptable as VP candidates (This was my primary concern with Kerry if Gore ran) because I think Dean will get Wellstones, RFK's or JFK'd if Kerry or Clark are VP.

That is my biggest fear: another right wing coup in my lifetime taking a democratic president or viable candidate for president and snuffing them out and replacing them with a right wing plant or toady.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:11 AM
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87. Your nasty, nasty comments
could help defeat any of the candidates come election time. Nothing wrong with a good diatriabe but these candidates are not evil - your evil is already sitting in our house in DC (or laying on the floor from a pretzel attack)
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:39 PM
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30. Hey I've got a suggestion.
Why don't you start discussing issues instead of calling names?
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:19 PM
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43. Good suggestion, but when I discuss issues I get called names
so I fight fire with fire
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:47 PM
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33. Please give your m-i-l
a hug for me, seventh. Oh, and thank her for the nick. It does apply so well, as clark has weaseled his way into the Democratic party w/o doing a fucking thing for the Democratic Party.

Instead, he has fucking praised whistle ass, dickless, rummy, perle, feith, wolfie, nixon, reagan AND the Iraq slaughter.

Furthermore, he aided in the sell of American citizen's privacy to our rethug, fascist government.

Moreover, let's not forget about all of the dead Serbs he saved from genocide. I'm sure if they were alive, they would be grateful.

Speaking of grateful, the DLC must be creaming right about now.

What a fine, fine democrat, eh?
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SWPAdem Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:05 PM
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40. Ah, thank God for the ignore button
n/t
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:28 PM
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45. Add Me Too
If you hate hearing the truth about Saint Wes - put me on ignore too. Continue that pattern and you all can just have a choir meeting and talk among yourselves while the rest of us fight it out in the primary. That's what a damn primary campaign is! But, if you can't hearing the negatives about your phony candidate - by all means ADD ME!
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:33 PM
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47. thanks JB
I'm with you
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:11 AM
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57. lol - you see something wrong with all that? n/t
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 10:57 PM
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36. UH-OH Mea Culpa - My Mom-in-law just finished reading Harry Potter
and just thought his name was funny.

She knows nothing about Clark (but what I've told her)

BUT she still despises Bush

sorry

but I still thought it was LOL funny and apt

oh well
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:04 PM
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39. I'm going to vote 'yes' on those rules. (n/t)
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:18 PM
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42. Not me. I may abstain on principle, but I'd prefer that things flush out
on their own without interference.

I suspect that the rules may be the best way to squelch the Weasely Clarkisaurs

But they will also squelch me in the process, soooo...

I may have to just sit tight and see what my comrades do: vote for more censorship and order or vote for more freedom and mayhem

I prefer freedom
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:20 PM
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44. Thank you for refraining from name-calling.
</sarcasm>
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SingSong Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:37 PM
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49. Weasels aren't all bad

http://www.state.ak.us/adfg/notebook/furbear/weasels.htm

Predators and defense: Weasels have few natural enemies of significance except possibly the horned owl and marten. Both species are apparently agile enough to occasionally catch weasels. Hawks, foxes, coyotes, and lynx also kill weasels, but such occurrences are rare.

Speed, ferocity, and the ability to fit into tight spaces help the weasel to cope with these larger predators. A weasel's annual color changes also provide natural camouflage. The weasel benefits both as the hunter and as the hunted. In winter, a potential predator may only see the black tip of the tail moving against the white snow. If the predator strikes at this black spot, it will miss the weasel's body. As a last resort, weasels can emit an odor which is as pungent as that of a striped skunk.

Weasels are persistent and fearless hunters. They will boldly confront animals much larger than themselves. They've been known to attack humans who come between them and their food. A severe winter with insufficient food is doubtless their worst enemy.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:43 PM
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53. . A weasel's annual color changes also provide natural camouflage
Very apt:


A weasel's annual color changes also provide natural camouflage.

The weasel benefits both as the hunter and as the hunted. In winter, a potential predator may only see the black tip of the tail moving against the white snow.
If the predator strikes at this black spot, it will miss the weasel's body.


Speed, ferocity, and the ability to fit into tight spaces help the weasel to cope with these larger predators.

As a last resort, weasels can emit an odor which is as pungent as that of a striped skunk.


If da Cap fits, let him wear it!
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:38 PM
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50. I hope not.
It would be childish to do so.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:43 PM
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54. If it weren't for contributions like yours we wouldn't need the new rules
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:07 AM
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56. you're so bad!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:06 AM
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61. seventhson, closer, other like them... after the new rules pass..
..they'll go away because they won't have anything to talk about.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:13 AM
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62. funny I was thinking the same thing about you
While I disapprove mightily with the premise of this thread, calling Clark names, you have earned the #1 spot for bashing and whining IMO.

It is because of you that I was so heartened to see the new rules going into place.

Seventhson, my dad (a rather conservative fellow actually who would have no use for the neo-cons who currently call themselves conservatives) use to tell me that "the minute name-calling enters an argument all credibility of the name-caller is lost."

Come into the light fellow-Deanie. It is good for the cause.

Julie

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:26 AM
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65. Well, actually, it was because of people like YOU - not you personally...
...that I was happy to see the rules change. With you being a Dean supporter, you've just confirmed (again) that some Dean supporters can't take valid criticism.

Believe it or not, there is a difference in questioning one's position on issues and simply calling one a war criminal, republican, or "weasal" with no basis in fact.

I don't think you see the difference.

I haven't started a thread on anything that, under the new rules, will not be allowed (unless it would be that I don't always identify my candidate preference.)..and I dare you to show one example otherwise.

THIS thread by seventhson DOES break the rules.

No, Julie, under the new rules, you will still see valid Dean criticism.

Sorry.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:32 AM
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:39 AM
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69. Really?
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 08:47 AM by wyldwolf
need I remind you of your blame-placing, disclaimer laden "apology" of the other day??? You know, the one where you regretted that the Clark bashers who control your actions forced you to write an uncharacteristic (so you claim) bash post????

Really? Which one was that? Show it? Or give more details on the context.

I recall calling someone out personally for refusing to provide proof of something - and I apologized for that. But that doesn't even come close to the description you just gave.

You apparently suffer from a reading comprehension difficulty as well as you seemed to miss the fact that I chide Seventhson for name-calling and urge him to adopt more respectable methods.

Reading comprehension has nothing to do with it. I was adressing YOUR comments to ME. I don't have to congragulate you for taking a stand against seventhson. Although you "stand" was very mild - probably because you approve of seventhson's suspect tactics.

Have you ever read People of the Lie by Dr. Scott M. Peck? I highly recommend it.

Maybe you could ride the clue-bus to the library to check it out.


Clever, but irrelavent.

There will be alot more valid Dean criticism...

There is going to be a lot more!

And if seventhson really is a Deanie, WHAT a representative you have!



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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:14 AM
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79. sad
Edited on Tue Sep-30-03 09:15 AM by JNelson6563
Okey-doke. You don't recall your mea culpa, I'd block it out too.

As to representation, no one here represents Dean, all represent themselves. I claimed to take no "stand" but I did address the tone of this thread to its author.

I believe you may be a bit too rabid for my tastes when it comes to dialogue. I'm here to talk and learn politics. Not get embroiled in lengthy brawls with troubled individuals.

Looks like you've plenty of willing sparring partners though so, enjoy! Personally I don't generally put a lot of time into counter-productive activities. I see we hold different views on that matter though. ;-)

Julie
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:47 AM
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81. Look whose post in this piece of the thread was removed...
Now that's sad. You call someone down for something and the post gets removed.

DU has a neat little feature for people who don't see eye to eye on things and no longer wish to be bothered by each other.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:49 AM
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82. most of it's there for all to see
as is all that I referred to. Almost clever of you to focus on "this part of the thread" as we can you were deleted at least once further down.

<shakin' head>

Julie
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:54 AM
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:45 PM
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94. they'll find something
some website somewhere will recycle some NWO conspiracy theory from the militia right and we'll see it here as a "leftwing" theory. The UN plotting to take our kittens and turn them into a drug to make Haitian men grow big boobies for a child porn ring run by BFEE or some such.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:54 AM
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60. Reelect President Gore In 2004!
What President Gore told us has come true. Bush has given us "Fuzzy Math". I like Gore. However, I will vote for a Democrat when the election comes. No more AWOL, deserter, Bush! www.awolbush.com

When it was time for Bush to fight, he ran! What if our troops were to do as Bush did?

Gore is a VET!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:16 AM
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63. Thank you
for reminding us why we need rules for adolescent behavior.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:18 AM
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:40 AM
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70. here is another example of your
childish work here at DU. Seventhson is a young guy, apparently still in school, living at home with mom. I see from your posts that he also holds a job. Let's see, student, holds a job and takes an active interest in politics and is a teen-ager?? Wow!!

To see you take personal swipes at him because of the honest work he does is sad. In spite of his less than stellar post here I'd still say he seems more mature than you. I mean he *is* young so some immature behavior is at least understandable. Considering his age I am more inclined to thing a little guidance and encouragement would be more producitve than personal attacks on his responsible behavior (i.e. holding down a job). What is your excuse for immature behavior?

Aside from the bit of name-calling advise I got from my dad and shared with Seventhson above, he also shared another nugget with me when it came to attitudes toward others and their lines of work. "There is nothing wrong with honest work." He came from poverty and achieved substantial security. He had no use for snobbery such as you display here and nor do I. I should hope no progressive/enlightened person would.

Now if Seventhson was dealing kiddie-porn or peddling nickel-bags on the playground, yeah, I could see attacking his "work" To do as you are doing, shameful.

Julie
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:46 AM
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73. LOL
Seventhseal says he's a lawyer with several kids. He's not a young kid.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:09 AM
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78. mea culpa on the deductions
why the digs at the "McDonalds" worker stuff? I guess this psychotic feud is far worse than appearances. Sad.

Julie
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:35 AM
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92. I predict that you will
I predict that the new rules will not be approved and/or will not be properly enforced and will have to be modified or shelved.
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Ruby Newsbee Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:44 AM
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72. Speaking of adolecent behavior
This thread is full of it from most who posted in it. what a waste of space.

I have concerns about some of the rules and wonder how they will be implemented and if the new rules would be handled in fairness. Or are they being made to appease the Clark supporters? I want to read EVERYTHING about Clark, good and bad and see nothing wrong with it. Also I am wondering if rule #2 which states, "2. The subject line of a discussion thread and the entire text of the message which starts the thread may not include profanity, excessive capitalization, or an excessive punctuation. Inflammatory rhetoric should also be avoided." will apply to those who start threads about DU posters then end with calling them names such as I witnessed here yesterday. I noticed the part about inflammatory rhetoric was given a bit of a pass as only a suggestion, but not really part of the rule.

If it's decorum DU is seeking, it must be even handed and fair for all. If the rules are a means to stifle opposing views then DU isn't representative of the LEFT, but follows closer to the Bush regime tactics.

I have never seen a board where people were not free to discuss the Candidates, attack Candidates or show discouragement in a Candidate. If DU becomes like this, the only people who will be posting are "yes men" and preachers of their choir. BORING

Here's the real clincher. You might be able to stop opposing views on DU, but the Dem party will have nothing to gauge here in the way of democratic thought.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:36 AM
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68. The Freepers already use this name
Just go on over to Freep City and look. So, no, you are not the first one to think of it.

Are you going to call my Senator "Hitlery" like the Freepers do?
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 08:49 AM
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74. Thank you for confirming my yes vote on the new rules (n/t)
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:02 AM
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76. Only if I can use the name, Whoreward Dean..
:7
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 01:53 PM
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100. You mean how he WHOREWARD for energy donors in Vermont?

http://timesargus.nybor.com/Archive/Articles/Article/23996

MONTPELIER - A leading environmentalist was asked to leave Gov. Howard Dean's council of environmental advisers after she criticized the governor's short-lived proposal for a coal-fired power plant in Vermont.

Elizabeth Courtney, executive director of the Vermont Natural Resources Council, was one of 20 members of the governor's environmental council, which meets about once every three months with the governor.

But after Courtney wrote a newspaper opinion piece faulting Dean for his brief advocacy of a coal plant, she learned she was no longer welcome on the council. David Rocchio, the governor's legal counsel, wrote her late last month to say she will be replaced on the council by VNRC's board chairman. The move came after she had written the governor on energy issues and showed his staff her draft newspaper piece, Courtney said.

"From the tone of your letter (to the governor), the content of your (newspaper) essay, and your rejection of the concerns we have raised with you in conversation, it appears that you do not seek a dialogue," Rocchio wrote to Courtney and to VNRC's board. "The governor sees little point in continuing to try to discuss these issues with you."

Meanwhile, another prominent environmentalist - Mark Sinclair, Vermont director of the Conservation Law Foundation - was also asked to step down from the council. Sinclair said it was not yet clear whether he was being removed to make way for another environmentalist, as he was told, or because he had criticized Dean's environmental policies.
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http://timesargus.nybor.com/Legislature/Story/43125.html


Dean raises money from energy sources

February 27, 2002

By David Gram

ASSOCIATED PRESS

MONTPELIER — When Gov. Howard Dean wanted to raise money for a possible presidential bid, he followed the example of a former governor of Texas and called on his friends in the energy industry.

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“Administration actions going back some years betray an inappropriate coziness with the utilities,” said Paul Burns, executive director of the Vermont Public Service Research Group. “I am not prepared to say it’s a result of contributions given. But these contributions present the appearance of impropriety or appearance of influence that it probably would have been better to avoid.”

Dean’s close relationship with utility representatives dates back to the day he became governor in 1991. A lobbyist for Green Mountain Power and a GMP employee were among the first people Dean called in to help his transition.

A list of the Governor’s Council of Economic Advisers includes Green Mountain Power Corp.’s chairman, two company board members and a vice president, all of whom made donations to the Fund For A Healthy America. It also includes two longtime utility lobbyists.

Over the years, the governor has sided with the utilities on many of the most pressing issues, including the push for deregulation of the electric industry, and later backing away from that as a goal. Among other major decisions:

— After years of pushing for the companies to absorb the excess costs of their expensive contract with Hydro-Quebec, Dean’s Department of Public Service agreed to let ratepayers be billed for more than 90 percent of what those excess costs are expected to be in the coming years. The extra costs will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:06 AM
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77. Notice how only the Clark bashers are upset about the rules changes?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:16 AM
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80. Now THAT is funny!
and completely untrue. I, for one, an happy about it. Now I can post valid criticism of any candidate without being called out for it.

Unlike some of the anti-Clarkers who give one or two line "question Clark's democratic record" posts.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:02 AM
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85. I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.
I meant the people who bash Clark. Not the Clark supporters who bash.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:56 AM
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84. I was too busy noticing how gleeful the Clark supporters
are about them and how actively they have been pushing for them and doing everything to make them a neccesity.

It will be a much nicer DU for Clark when he captures GD as his own personal prime piece of real-estate. Nothing like keeping the front lawn for Clark and getting the rest of those trashy signs moved over to the back yard where no one can see them?

Just how many special rules are we going to need this election- both at DU and in the media to keep the new golden boy's image untarnished by his own words and deeds?

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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:03 AM
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86. There is nothing in the new rules preventing you from posting honest
criticism of Clark or any other candidate.
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:27 AM
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90. Switched to Clark now S.S.?
When I last checked you were doing deep cover Kerry black propaganda...looks like the General made you a better offer.
As it's posts like this that make Kerry and Clark look better and better...by making their critics seem weird and gruesome.

Or at least that is my theory at any rate.
:)
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 12:46 PM
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95. I hope not
the "war criminal" BS has gooten so old it's fossilized.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 01:52 PM
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99. No, you would not.
At least, you wouldn't be able to put it in the title of your thread.

I'm locking this. If you wish to discuss the proposed rules, you may do so in the thread I started on the issue.
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