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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:42 AM
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Where are all the US jobs going?
this is from MSN money:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/extra/P62115.asp

Number of US jobs moving offshore

Take a look. Very chilling forecasts from the
U.S. Department of Labor and Forrester Research, Inc.
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:46 AM
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1. Manufacturing jobs will probably never come back.
Get used to the new world order.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:50 AM
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3. So what are we supposed to work at?
They recommend services, nursing and SECURITY for homeland security: you will need this to control people when they start realizing the American dream is dead for them.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:49 AM
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2. India Has Started Outsourcing Already
By 2010 they expect to realize $1.2 Trillion per year from outsourcing and already have opened centers in South America, Europe and China.

Isn't it "wonderful?"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:53 AM
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5. It's "wonderful" for them
And unless you want to:

1) Cut all communication between the US and the Third World;

2) Work for $.25/hour

there's nothing you can do about it.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:58 AM
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6. Maybe they could outsource to Iraq and Afghanistan....
our tax dollars coming full circle....
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:02 AM
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8. Tax dollars are already coming full circle
except there's a conspicuous break between Halliburton senior management and the average US taxpayer...

actually, employing Iraqis and Afghanis would be a great idea, but it won't happen. To much empowerment.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 09:51 AM
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4. You gotta love a tax code that now encourages moving jobs offshore
Remember the days when no matter how much fake losses you cooked up - or how well you bribed the 3rd world countries into turning fees, rents, and royalties into "taxes", or how great your accountants were at claiming all expenses were in the US so you lost money on your US operation but only made up for it those "overtaxed" world operations, the Gov said you still had to pay a tax to America if you made money?

It is good to be rich or a corporation when the GOP are in power.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:04 AM
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9. Regan Started The Exodus
By giving US companies tax breaks to move manufacturing and service facilities tax breaks to relocate overseas. I don't know if the trend can be reversed but I would like to see tax penalties for those companies and corporate income taxed on that part of revenue earned outside of the US.

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:08 AM
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12. I remember those days when Raygun also did this
Tax cuts to the wealthiest, and then the corporations sent all the jobs overseas...short term profits for the greedy bastards with cheap labour non union...
in the meantime, 70 million babyboomers are set to retire in a decade, and Im one of them.
Thank god I have a roof over my head. Who knows for how long.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:06 AM
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10. US global trade policies are a 10 year experiment with the lives
of working Americans. They are a failure for workers. Oddly enough I think I saw that predicted 10 years ago by Ross Perot.





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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:53 AM
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14. Giant sucking sound....
Perot talked about that giant sucking sound you hear are the jobs leaving the US for Mexico under NAFTA. He was exactly right. He was also the candidate to clearly and honestly address the phony economics of Bush.

One irony is that jobs are leaving Mexico for China.

This has been a long-time coming. I'll say 30 years. During this time corporate power has risen to the point where we have been governed as a corporate oliogarchy for some time.

The amazing thing is that the public has embraced this change. Unions became evil. Worker's rights? A joke. Starting in the mid-to-late '70s was the rush to get the "good" corporate job. Make the big bucks which morphed into the "me" decade(s).

Even during massive layoffs (late '80s-early '90s), corporations did not really draw much fire.

Corporations so thoroughly control the government today that it will take a massive uprising to throw the bums out and balance the scales.

The only thing that will provoke the public is (besides loss of TV) is an economic disaster. The rate that jobs are leaving coupled with many of the low-level jobs now filled by immigrants may be just that.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:06 AM
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11. And I don't think we can change this any time soon n/t
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pbeal Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:00 AM
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7. lackey and thug for the rich are what we will have left
have a exciting lackey job
Health care - keep the rich from dying
Other in-person services - entertain the rich
Real estate - make sure the rich have some place sleep
Financial services - make sure the rich stay rich

or thug job
Security - keep the poor away from the rich

When did we become Brazil?
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 10:11 AM
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13. They want it where all the rich people own all the companies.
And we all work for them for low wages. It is getting that way now.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-03 11:15 AM
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15. They Want Us All in the Army (at even lower pay)
How big an army do they think they need to take over the world?
Obviously the current one isn't big enough.
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