Why aren't the neocons happy?

[Deja Q]

THEY WANT TO DESTROY THE GOVERNMENT.

Ruining our economy via massive debt (nearly 8 trillion) while creating policies that make us more dependent on oil is their damn GOAL. EVERY president since AND INCLUDING reagan have worked on the disintegration of our infrastructure (though Clinton finally balanced the budget, he did a thing or two that didn't help our oil situation either...)

With the US gulf's ability to pump oil obliterated for a year; gas prices will easily become $3.20/gl in midwest states... Maybe even $4 in California.

Neocons should be rejoicing. The rest of us ought to start praying.

[JHB]

1. You know the saying..."Be careful what you wish for..."

They didn't get everything, a lot of what they did get didn't turn out quite right, and nobody REALLY appreciates them (sniff).

[Spinzonner]

2. Shattered Delusions

not that that will stop them

[JHB]

3. The problem isn't that the see their delusions as shattered...

...but that they see them as thwarted.

If they were shattered, they'd stop of their own accord. Seen them as thwarted, however, means they still have their delusions and will try again if they have the chance.

[wli]

4. c.f. Ledeen on popular participation in fascism

He complains that Mussolini and Hitler didn't have enough faith in their own people to allow them to fully participate in fascism. Now the neocons are discovering that people legitimately don't like fascism. Kind of like how people didn't like the dictatorial death squad -wielding replacements for all those democratic governments the CIA overthrew.

Now we have our own government overthrown by the neocons (probably with the help of the CIA) and wielding death squads against us. The suffering resulting from this will be unspeakably immense regardless of the people's response.

[Deja Q]

5. Neocons like reagan told us fascism and communism is bad, selfishness good

We don't like how they keep using China and other communist countries for our labor and we sure as hell love our freedoms.

Hoisted by their own petard, it seems. Whoops.

[wli]

6. but they never said what fascism or communism actually were

Communism is an attempt at economic justice (however misguided), and fascism (in the form of a corporate police state) is what they're actually pushing. The terminological corruption was essential. They had to demonize communism so vehemently it served to evoke blind hatred, and to restrict the range of discussion so that fascism was never seriously discussed and inextricably tied to the specifics of the WWII Axis. Even now, whenever Hitler is mentioned, a huge backlash is reflexive in order to wipe it off the discussion floor. For instance, when it was mentioned in Congress, the incomparability of the suffering in Auschwitz etc. was used to remove any parallels between the Nazi regime and the US today from discourse.

[tjdee]

7. And they cut funding to NO disaster funding too.

So whatever they're saying right now, fuck them.

[Nikki Stone 1]

8. Neocons are a self-selected group of unhappy people to begin with

They CAN'T be happy. It is their unhappiness that leads them to base their lives on hate, since they have to project their self-loathing somewhere. As with all projection, it is only a temporary fix. In the long run, they are still left with their miserable lives and their miserable selves.

They could destroy every branch of the government and still be complaining, because that is their basic nature.

[OrlandoGator]

9. This is an extremely valid question.

They have all three branches of government, that they still make it their mission to destroy anyone who speaks out against them. They are pathetic, despicable little people (with no offense to little people intended).