BBV: We are in Compter Sweden magazine

[Kelvin Mace]

http://computersweden.idg.se/ArticlePages/200310/02/20031002112012_CS878/20031002112012_CS878.dbp.asp?s=022222222222222233333333

Anyone care to translate?

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org

[E_Zapata]

1. Here's an idea:

find the email address for the language department at Uppsala University and see if you can get someone there to translate it. I bet a teacher or student could get you a translation. (and it gets some folks in Sweden actually reading the article).

If that doesn't work, contact one of the gradudate professors in the science department (geology, biology, whatever). They write all their national research papers in English so translation is a way of life for them.

[w4rma]

2. The BBV folks don't have time for all that

They've got way more important things to work on, like stopping the DRE voting booths!

[E_Zapata]

3. ?????????

5 minutes total to get the university department email and write a note asking for a translation, hit send, and get on with the regularly scheduled business.

I didn't suggest they get an educational visa to go to sweden, pack up the houses in the US, get over there and take 5 years of language courses to get the thing translated.

??????

Put it this way: you need something translated into English, your odds are a trillion to one of getting it done if you don't ask culturally challenged Americans who speak one language as a rule.

Gesh.

[ConsAreLiars]

4. Actually

This direct request to DU worked well in getting a Polish text translated, but your suggestion seems good. Take the time to do it and post the translation here once you get it. Another approach would be to email the author with a request for an English version, since the odds are reasonably good that any randomly selected eduacated Swede is reasonably competent in English. By taking on this task yourself, no matter how easy it seems, you will be doing the BBV project a service and allowing others a chance to continue their primary work uninterrupted.

"5 minutes total to get the university department email and write a note asking for a translation, hit send, and get on with the regularly scheduled business." Surely you can spare that time, if that is all that is needed?

[E_Zapata]

6. I swear

It's a mine field on this board. A friggin mine field. Rudeness abounds.

[BevHarris]

5. Actually, BBV is on a whole bunch of Swedish web sites for some reason

I guess Sweden is quite interested in this issue. But yes, I did wonder what they are saying. One was talking about Diebold though, and it didn't appear to be very kind.

Question for night owls: What has Diebold done to Sweden?

Bev

[Celebrandil]

7. I'll do it...

I can translate it for you, if you are still interested.

Mårten - Sweden

[Celebrandil]

8. I did my best...

This is my translation. I hope everything is correct. I must admit that I'm rather surprised to find such an article in Computer Sweden.

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Criticized cheating in election - webpage closed down.

An American manufacturer of voting machines has shut down a website about cheating in elections. The president of the company has promised Bush the victory in the election next year.

American Diebold has forced an internet provider to shut down the website www.blackboxvoting.org. It's run by Bev Harris, a critic of computerized voting machines.

Diebold base their accusations on a new law, Digital Millenium Copyright Act, that protects copyright protected material. Diebold does not claim that Harris himself has published any copyright protected material, just that he links to another website with such material.

The sensitive material includes internal memos that someone within Diebold has allegedly leaked.

This memo describes among other things an attempt to manipulate the election result in Florida year 2000, that is when George W Bush defeated Al gore.

During the counting of votes, the election result that had been registered by a voting machine was replaced by another result. However, this was stopped by an election worker who noticed that Al Gores numbers suddenly started to drop.

The internet provider later admitted that there was no bases in Diebolds complaints, but when this is written www.blackboxvoting.org is still closed. However, www.blackboxvoting.com does exist.

The president of Diebold is Wally O'Dell. He is a close friend of Bushs. In a letter to the republicans in Ohio the president of Diebold promises to do everything he can to make Bush win the election in Ohio in 2004.

[shirlden]

9. Thanks........so much for the translation

:kick:

[Kelvin Mace]

13. Wow1

After months of reading news clips giving Diebold every benefit of the doubt and bending over backwards to give them the final word, it's a bit jolting to to read someone going the opposite direction.

<s>

David Allen
www.plan9.org

Diebold Voting Machines
We vote for you, so you don't have to!

[Kelvin Mace]

17. Ooops, yes THANK YOU!

I forgot my manners, for a moment.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org

[ebmebm]

14. thanks for the translation

nothing new in the article but nice to see the word is spreading

[trigz]

10. I'll get around to translating it

whenever I get the time later today. If it's Swedish it shouldn't be a problem, as it is practically the same as Norwegian.

[trigz]

11. Translation

<head>WEBSITE CRITICISED ELECTION FRAUD - GOT SHUT DOWN</head>
An American producer of voting machines (note: such as those used in Florida in 2000, I suppose) have successfully shut down a website concerning itself with election fraud. The company CEO has promised to see to it that Bush wins the next elections.

By Anders Lotsson

The American company Diebold have forced an internet provider to shut down the web site www.blackboxvoting.org. The site is run by Bev Harris, a staunch critic of computerised voting machines.

Diebold have invoked a law, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which protects material which is under copyright. Diebold are not claiming that Harris personally has published such copyrighted material, but the fact that his website contains links to other sites containing such material.
The sensitive issues involved are internal notes that someone inside Diebold are alleged to have leaked. These notes describe among other things an attempt to manipulate the election results in Florida in 2000, when George W Bush defeated (note: HAH!) Al Gore.
The election result registered in one voting machine had been swapped with vote counts from other districts as the votes were being counted. The proceedings, however, were halted immediately when one of the election volunteers noticed that Al Gores numbers suddenly dropped dramatically.
The internet provider recently admitted that Diebold's complaint was unfounded, but as this article is being written, blackboxvoting.org remains closed. However, blackboxvoting.com is accessible.
Bev Harris recently published the book Black Box Voting: Ballot-Tampering in the 21st Century. Some chapters from the book can be read on www.blackboxvoting.com.
Wally O'Dell is Diebold's CEO, and a close friend of president Bush. In a letter to Ohio Republicans, the CEO has promised to do "anything within his powers" to help Bush win the Presidental elections of 2004.

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That's the end of it, you'll have to give me a shout if there are any parts you don't understand. Either way, this seems like the news story of the year to my mind. Nail this bastard, friends!

[trigz]

12. Bugger, looks like Mårten beat me to it! ;-) n/t

[seemslikeadream]

15. That's OK

I enjoyed reading it twice! Thanks

[harmonyguy]

16. bbv.COM server down?????

Is there a problem with bbv.COM? When I go there I get directed to
http://server14.totalchoicehosting.com/suspended.page/

Bev? David?

HG

[Kelvin Mace]

18. Looking into it...

My ISP is pretty reliable, but a pain to get in touch with. We had a DoS attack that shut us down about two weeks ago when the Salon story broke. Might be the same thing.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org