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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:02 AM
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4350 Pills?!? Was Rush DEALING?
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 03:08 AM by Must_B_Free
Who would his clients be?

Other high profile Neoconservatives?

4350 pills? Why isn't he the focus of the investigation?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:07 AM
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1. crossed my mind--
the alternative is that rush was swallowing over 100 little blues per day! Yeah, I know, I'd do the same thing if I had to listen to dittoheads for hours every day. But still...I couldn't talk, and Rush fooled people into thinking he could.

hmmm
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:13 AM
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2. Hoarding, I guess
If he's addicted, he's living in big fear of a time when his supply dries up. He's got the money, he can stockpile enough to ease his worries.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:16 AM
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3. Report says the ring was broken up earlier this year, I think May?
so he is probably going through his stash now.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:18 AM
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5. now seriously
on a human level, we should feel sorry for him... drug
abuse is a disease... and in his case KARMA
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:38 AM
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7. not this guy
Can you imagine what he would be saying if the junkie was Hillary Clinton? He'd be calling for her resignation. The man has no soul.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:27 AM
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25. So we must use Rush tactics then?
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:55 AM
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37. Carville said it best:
"When your enemy is drowning, throw him a brick."
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:16 PM
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42. Yes . We Must
Sorry to pop your bubble, but hesitating to do so is what got us into this sorry state, and exactly wahtthe neocons count on when perpetrating their unspeakable acts on America. That you will hesitate and they can strike.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:17 PM
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43. Yes . We Must
Sorry to pop your bubble, but hesitating to do so is what got us into this sorry state, and exactly what the neocons count on when perpetrating their unspeakable acts on America. That you will hesitate and they can strike.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:41 AM
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8. No way do I feel sorry for Rush!!!
How can he get and stay sober if people give him pitty and enable his behavior?

Thats the best I'll say......

If he ends up wanting sobriety, he will have to stop talk radio as he preforms it now....its part of his relapse behavior.

History of detox; twice...He is so hateful....No Bill W. thinking on his program that I can detect....

Does this make sense?
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:13 PM
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41. thank you, it is wrong to give pity and enable addicts
Giving pity to addicts and excusing them from the consequences of their own behavior harms them. Sometimes it kills them. If we are truly compassionate, we will demand that the laws are followed and that Rush be placed in a secure jail or prison where he can hit bottom and overcome his severe denial issues. Otherwise, with this level of abuse, the man is quite likely to be dead in a few years. Slow motion suicide.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:00 AM
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17. He reaps what he sowed
Let's all admit something.
There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.


(after noting that blacks are convicted of drug charges far more than whites):

What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.

---- Rush Limbaugh, Oct. 5, 1995
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:04 AM
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19. Rush is human?? Damn,news at 11.......
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 08:05 AM by OneTwentyoFive
I'll be damned if I'll ever feel sorry for that sack of shit.

Lets see...what did Rush say about Kitty Dukakis and her addiction?
What did Rush say about Californians who wanted medical marijuana legal? And on another note what did Rush say about Chelsea Clinton when he showed a picture of her on his TV show?

Human,no Rush is not of the human race. Screw him,hope he does HARD time if you get my drift.


David
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:17 AM
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4. That's an unusual assumption for the law to make
They always go with dealing if the quanity is there.

I wonder what the classes of offense are realted to quantities or counts of illegal pharmaceudicals?
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:26 AM
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6. Noelle Bush maybe....
or Ralph Reed.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:41 AM
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9. Don't be silly. Rush isn't a nigra.
So he can't be a dealer. How could you not know that?

{/sarcasm}
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:45 AM
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13. Exactly
There isn't a black man in America that would not be charged with being a dealer. A black celebrity may be able to get away with it in the end but every single pundit would be speculating, accusing, and saying: "there is no other possible explanation" or "what else could it have been for"
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:46 AM
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10. I doubt he was dealing...
Its not like he needs the money. At the rate he was swallowing them his stash is probably BONE DRY.
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oxycontinrush Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 04:03 AM
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11. It just figures
You had to know Rush would be the type of junkie that has a tolerance for an amount of opiates that would normally anesthetize a sperm whale.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 04:33 AM
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12. Rush just loved getting high!
How 60's of him! Rush is realy just an old hippie! A Peace and love flower child getting high and wearing love beads.

Face it, it was all about "getting high". Everything was just a necessary front and cover to perpetuate the cycle. My socology book in college described a condition of people to over acheive as a cover for something else they are hiding.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:03 AM
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18. Just like Jerry Garcia!
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 08:06 AM by hexola
I remember when Jerry died - I think Rush somehow really identified with Jerry. Rush did a little bit of monologue on him...He seemed very intrigued with Jerry and his "power". I think he thought they had something in common. They were both "Leaders of Followers." (and they were both big fat Hogs!!!)

But niether, (as it turns out) really resembled their followers. Jerry Garcia was the leader of the green, tree-hugging, vegetarian, ugly sandals crowd...but was a total degenerate health-wise...

Rush was the leader of the moral virtue, capitalist, christian goody two shoes types...when he was really also, a total degenerate.

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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:54 PM
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48. Rush, a total degerate, morally! n/t
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:55 AM
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16. anesthetize a sperm whale. LOL
Welcome to DU, oxycontinrush!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:49 AM
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14. i heard he was swallowing 100 pills a day...why isn't he DEAD???
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 08:48 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
oink oink < (^@^)>
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:08 AM
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32. He definitely could not survive
taking that much Oxycontin--much less do his show coherently. He was either hoarding them or sharing them with others--maybe his wife? It's not uncommon for married couples to both be addicts at the same time.

Tommy Chong was recently sentenced to do time for selling bhangs. If Rush doesn't do time for this, then there is NO justice in this country. He was in possession of controlled substances without a valid prescription, and that's a felony under almost any state's laws, and probably federally too.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:51 AM
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15. My Take On Rush
I hope he gets the treatment he needs...

After sober reflection I am returning to what I learned in Sunday School; hate the sin, love the sinner.....

I hope this brouhaha and resulting embarassment leads to his banishment from the public square which he has been defiling for way too long...

Good bye Rush....

May God treat you with the charity, kindness, tolerance, and forgiveness that you have denied to others.....

Peace 03

Brian
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:08 AM
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20. The numbers are astounding...
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 08:10 AM by rasputin1952
IF, what is being reported is true, it pans out like this:

4350 pills per month=

145 pills per day=

6 pills per hour/24 hour day

Allowing for sleep, of which I am sure there was plenty; but let's say 8 hours=

9 pills per hour/16 hour day.

OK, possibilities;

Hoarding
give aways
actually using that amount

No matter how you cut it, IF, the #'s are sincere, there is one really serious problem going on here.

BTW: Most, if not all states, consider giving away/selling on a par, you are still distributing.

:shrug:

edited for clarity on pills per hour/day.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:12 AM
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21. Rush is a big boy!
He is a rather large tall man isn't he...? He might be able to hold a bit more than most. It does seem impossible though...

Druggies with cash always hoard.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:40 AM
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27. Reminds me of John Stewart's take on the whole thing...
"Rush might have lost the 'Big & Fat', but he sure didn't lose the 'Idiot'"; referring to Al Franken's book.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:15 AM
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22. He Wouldn't
Have Any Liver

NT
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:43 AM
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29. Very true...
besides the narcotic doing its best to do in his liver, the acetomeniphine, would make his liver look like raspberry Jello; and probably serve the same function.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:02 AM
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35. Narcotic pills
such as Percocet and Percodan are cut with either aspirin or acetominaphin. If Rush was doing the aspirin variety, it could explain his hearing loss.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:53 AM
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36. He'd have ulcers in his stomach...
that would rival Old Faithful as well....it's the addition of other agents that would do more damage than the narcotic itself.

I'm surprised he didn't try to get Fentanyl patches if he was that bad off.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:20 AM
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23. Unde florida law, yes he was dealing
at 5 milligrams (i have no idea on the dosage of oxycontin, but i picked 5mg because i dont think they can actually make smaller pills than that) 4350 pills is over 21 grams which puts Rush into section b of the following florida statute, now of course if we are talking about 10mb pills, well than take a look at section c. Rush is in for a world of hurt. Most likely he'll cut a deal with prosecutors on this one, but I'll just be happy to see his voice of hate silenced.


893.135 Trafficking; mandatory sentences;
(c)1. Any person who knowingly sells, purchases,
manufactures, delivers, or brings into this state, or
who is knowingly in actual or constructive possession
of, 4 grams or more of oxycodone, or 4 grams or more
of any mixture containing any such substance, but less
than 30 kilograms of such substance or mixture,
commits a felony of the first degree, which felony
shall be known as "trafficking in illegal drugs,"
punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or
s. 775.084.

If the quantity involved:
a. Is 4 grams or more, but less than 14 grams, such
person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term
of imprisonment of 3 years, and the defendant shall be
ordered to pay a fine of $50,000.

b. Is 14 grams or more, but less than 28 grams, such
person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum term
of imprisonment of 15 years, and the defendant shall
be ordered to pay a fine of $100,000.

c. Is 28 grams or more, but less than 30 kilograms,
such person shall be sentenced to a mandatory minimum
term of imprisonment of 25 calendar years and pay a
fine of $500,000.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:28 AM
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26. The thing that burns my ass....
Is that deep down most of us know that fatass will walk on this. They'll let poor Rush and his "addiction to pain killers" slide right out the back door.

Meanwhile prisons are full of people doing 5-10-15 FUCKING YEARS for doing nothing worse than Limbaugh.

Justice is blind---yeah...right.


David
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:27 PM
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45. Any Pharmacists know the dosage of a tiny Blue?
We could figure out his mandatory sentence...

I think he had more than 28 grams.

Lets not forget there were two scores...
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:30 AM
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33. WOW! Florida has "mandatory minimum sentences"
Say bye-bye to Rush.

Those liberal judges will not be able to give Rush a break.

Hey, maybe there is some justice in Florida
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:35 PM
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46. a. didn't seem to apply to Noelle Bush
b. must find him guilty first


Lardass will walk. His housekeeper will go to prison.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:25 AM
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24. Coulter, to stay skinny?
What's hunger if you can't feel a damn thing?
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:41 AM
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28. I thought that too
Seems like a lot of pills - bet he was helping out a few friends
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:58 AM
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31. No sorry, Coulter can't be doing downers
Coulter looks more like the poster child for the classic coke/meth diet. Acts like it too.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:44 AM
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30. My guess is
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 08:51 AM by GinaMaria
hoarding a substance he didn't ever want to be without 4000 pills in 47 days I think that's what was said on the news last night. If his habit and addiction are this far gone, he was spiraling quickly to his death. He should be grateful he got caught.

ON EDIT: I just remembered something. Wasn't there a rumor about Rush having surgery? It was lipo or tummy tuck or something like that. Wonder if there is alot of pain with that sort of thing :shrug: Still, you would think he would be able to get them with perscription from a doc.

I hope his ordeal makes right wingers take a good hard look at our drug laws. Maybe some reform will come of this.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:30 AM
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34. No, I don't think Rush was dealing
Even though Florida law might consider he was dealing, I doubt that he was. I've known a couple of downer freaks and worked with some more. When the downer monkey(and the opiate monkey too) gets on your back, you start taking massive quantities just to remain "normal" One person I was able to observe(lived next door) would take fifteen to twenty Xanex first thing, just to "wake up" and relieve his craving from the overnight drought. If he want wanted to get a buzz of some sort, the dosage went up to the forty or fifty pills range. Another person I knew was so far gone into his addiction that he had cranked the dosage upwards of a hundred pills just to get that downer high. Both graduated into shooting up, and were dead within a couple of years.

And yes, Rush was probably hoarding. What is going to interesting to observe is when he now runs out. Any self respecting dealer isn't going to touch him with a ten foot pole, so when he runs out he will be going cold turkey, and get mean and nasty. Interesting phenomenon to watch over the next few weeks as he runs out of pills and starts going through withdrawl, all on nationwide radio. Or perhaps he will take a few weeks off to go through detox.

All of this said, I hope the man gets this monkey off of his back. Its not a good way to live, and death is the quick and certain outcome if he doesn't quit. But it is fun to watch him stew in the juices of his own hypocrisy.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:58 AM
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38. Stockpiling
How would he keep his Oxy habit going if LIHOP #2 closed of commerce lanes for very long?

Pigboy was just stockpiling his stash.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:58 AM
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39. Stockpiling
How would he keep his Oxy habit going if LIHOP #2 closed of commerce lanes for very long?

Pigboy was just stockpiling his stash.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:10 PM
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40. sure he was but for influence not for pay
He wasn't doing it for the money but to have the dirt on other people in his circle who shared his weakness. It is a safety measure. You have a party, and you see who is into it, and then maybe you get together with that person and party some more. And then you have something on that person you didn't have before.

You didn't think he got where he was on talent, did you? Have you ever listened to his show? There is no great talent required to indulge in race and Jew baiting, any redneck with a sixth grade education could have done the same.

Also, keep in mind he was a high level "drug lord" sending out an intermediary to buy large numbers of pills for him. Think about the penalties for doing that. (Well, at least if he were Hispanic.) People get decades for doing what he has done. The only way out is to have a list of other people you can rat out. His maid was smart enough to log the fact that she was providing pills to your Pigness. Are we going to assume that Rush is too stupid to protect himself and have evidence of people he in turn has supplied?

My cynical prediction: He won't be arrested because he could finger people much more powerful than himself. That's what I'm thinking anyway. Although he might be safer in jail if they think there is any chance he will talk...
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 12:21 PM
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44. I totally agree with your scenario
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 12:22 PM by Unknown Known
$32 million a year and he doesn't have his own Dr. Feelgood in Florida?

No way. This guy uses these pills like others put out M&Ms or peanuts at their parties.

And the other thing, we know he's a junkie - went to rehab twice and this NEVER made the news. Think about it.

In and out of rehab (perhaps court ordered?), shaking down and frisking his maid to see if she was wired - paranoia anyone?

This sounds like someone who has been busted before.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 05:38 PM
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47. If their is evidence that he actually received this many pills
The states attorneys are required to charge him with "Possession with intent to sell"

God Damn the Pusher Man.


Now I know why they call him "Rush"
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 06:04 PM
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49. RUSH was HIGH??? No wonder the man went deaf, pills by the handfull.
Oh my God, this means he was high most of the time. I wonder how many other PUBs are doing this too.??

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 06:19 PM
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50. Sounds like Rush has a serious drug addiction problem
and intervention is required!
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