Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why Has There Been No "Leak" from a Member of the Elite Press Corps?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:28 PM
Original message
Why Has There Been No "Leak" from a Member of the Elite Press Corps?
Why has no paper or other media source led with a story about the identity of the leakers in the administration based on the word of a journalist who asked not to be named? My theory: these journalists, like Mitchell and Novak, are protecting not their "sources." I mean, if you knew your source was going to wind up in jail or out of power, why hold onto him? Why protect him? No, they're protecting the whole Bush administration. They know that if the leaker goes, some other dominoes may fall. And why are they doing that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:34 PM
Response to Original message
1. I disagree. Protection of sources among journalists is a higher
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 03:34 PM by Booberdawg
principle than this one case. It cuts both ways, for example, it works in favor for another "Deep Throat".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. So Andrea Mitchell will be using Scooter Libby to do stories
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 03:55 PM by BurtWorm
on country club prisons? I mean what about these guys is worth protecting?

PS: What if she or another journalist leaks anonymously? Wouldn't that be a responsible thing for a journalist to do in this instance? No less irresponsible than the Bushist leakers, right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. anonymous leaking
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 07:11 PM by TexasPatriot
well, a number of reporters leaked to Julian Borger a couple days ago
--
http://stream.guardian.co.uk:7080/ramgen/sys-audio/Guardian/audio/2003/09/30/300903borger.ra
-- about 1:20 in that it was Rove... Which would explain why we haven't seen anyone burn for it yet

But I've been asking this question on different boards for a number of days now. This was what I posted on the Post board:

---

I'm still wondering at how this investigation serves the president. The story is already in the press' hands - there are 6 reporters who got the calls. The headlines are probably written and waiting.
So what can this delay do for Bush? Why sit on it? Why take the country through the legal charade? Well - it provides Bush with rope. Lots of rope. If there's anything like a coverup, or a failure to find the same answer as the 6 reporters already have, people will be asking a much much tougher question of the administration. "Did you participate in an effort to subborn justice" Every day it gets worse.

Assuming Bush wasn't involved at the start of this (and i'm not saying he was)- what happens if he gets involved trying to save "Bob from Accounting". Why hasn't the whitehouse done the threat analysis on this one - realized how explosive it is - and cut their losses? There's some kind of fantasy land thing here - and I hope it's not indicative of a larger problem, namely that the administration sees other more substantive issues with the same and-I-believe-in-elves-too psychotic break from reality approach.

---

To some degree the post is a honeypot - because the logical answer seems to be that the WH can't out Rove (or Scooter, to believe some of the other inuendo). But this really is quite the exercise in absurd political bungling. In theory there are 6 reporters and god knows how many editors who have this information. I can't imagine that they would let the country go through another Pub vs Dem RAW IS WAR Smackdown. This can't be considered a 'normal no one is going to find the leak' situation. It's not like Watergate - the Post already has the story, the leakers, hell - they know it all...

How is it in the public interest to hold the story?

I'm waiting for the rightwing to accuse the Post of holding the story because they're all part of a 'vast leftwing conspiracy' to entrap the WH into breaking even more laws.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. How is it in the public interest to hold the story?
That is the question. It's not in anyone's interest. People are following standard operating procedure for a situation that is not standard.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. It will come out - the info is already in too many hands
Welcome to DU TexasPatriot!

Those six reporters have surely already leaked it to third parties. It seems clear that Wilson received some phone calls from them that must have been along the lines of "karl (or whoever) just told me that your wife is CIA - do you have any comment?" Because Wilson seems pretty sure he knows who it was.

Whoever took Novak's call at the CIA to confirm knows who it is.

Whoever those six reporters talked to knows - their editors, for instance. Andrea Mitchell knows, Brokaw says they decided not to run with it. Is Brokaw obligated to protect Mitchell's source? Who else was in the meeting when the decision was made?

I think it must be an open secret in DC. And those third parties who are NOT journalists protecting sources have no constraints. They will talk when they are asked.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Well Boober, it's become pretty obvious over the last several years,
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 04:45 PM by Flying_Pig
the press HAS NO PRINCIPALS! They have lied, and acted as propaganda merchants for the fascist takeover of our government. They have spewed PNAC propaganda from newspaper, to television, to radio. They have enabled the Bush/BFEE cabal to get away with the murder of tens of thousands (including perhaps, those killed on 9/11), the illegal invasion of other nations, the destruction of our economy, and the emptying of our Treasury.

They have no fucking principals!! Many are guilty of treason and sedition, and should be arrested and tried for said same. Further, the "Fairness Doctrine" should be reinstituted by executive order (are you listening Dem candidates??), and, RICO and anti-monopoly statutes should be invoked against all large-scale corporate media.

We'll have to "force" them the find some principals again, and we must, for the survival of our democracy.

:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. There might be more immediate remedies
than revolution.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. Limits to principles
There is a difference between protecting a source who is at risk of reprisal for getting the truth out and harboring a criminal who is spreading information with the intent to cause harm to an innocent third party.

Plame's outing was a hair removed from attempted murder and anyone who knows the identity of the persons responsible has just as much of an obligation to come forward as they would have if they had witnessed a shooting in the street. To do any less is to cast off the privilage of being a civilized member of the human race and join the ranks of the savages.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. If anyone read my piece about First Amendment Perversion
it mentions something I've seen only in the UK Guardian that is central to this case: the US Supreme Court has ruled in a case every journalist should be familiar with that reporters have a responsibility to be forthcoming about crimes they have knowledge of as much as any other citizen. Novak can try to protect his source, but if the govt can't identify the leakers through other means, Novak can expect to spend time in jail or cough up their names. It depends how much of a believer in the First Amendment protection of the press he is. I don't think it will get that far. I think, as other posters here have pointed out how wide this net was cast, someone's going to spill the beans before they get to Novak. And the other ones are going to have less recourse to the First Amendment than Novak.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Accessories, I say.
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
3. The elite press is invested in keeping the Bushists from falling
Get it? They're part of the same class: the ruling class. If they viewed themselves as citizens and not part of the ruling class, they would consider it treasonous not to name the traitors who leaked Plame's identity. But because they are alienated from the citizenry, they view it as necessity to protect the government from ruin. It's not Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney (allegedly ;) ) whom they're protecting. It's their mother Source: the Government. The elite press has been utterly coopted. Get it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #3
12. They're afraid we'll break it because they mistakenly think it is fragile.
The chimp's fragility and their perception of the country as fragile after 9/11 makes them hesitant and lost over 'Dear, dear; what to do?'. The perfect victim for Rovian tactics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 02:29 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC