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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:53 PM
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Lou Dobbs Blames Democrats For Confirmation Of Brownie.
Says that because Dems were in power they did not provide adequate oversight. Hmmm... these fuckers can't have it both ways. Either a sitting President has the right to nominate who he pleases and have them sail through confirmation (as we are told with judges)or they don't. Don't even get me started with the fucker having Jeffery Tubin on for the last two nights to critique the current confirmation hearings. I can't believe all the DU'ers who love Dobbs because he occasionally picks on * over immigration and outsourcing. He's a dumb sonofabitch.

Jay
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 05:58 PM
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1. Ought to be a lesson to Democrats on Bush nominees
Giving people a pass who aren't qualified might serve some other political purpose, but you'll be blamed should they screw up. Of course, I can imagine Dobbs back then if they hadn't approved Brown...he'd have criticized them for playing politics.

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:01 PM
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2. Dobbs is right
You might want to read the transcript of the hearing and decide for yourself, though.

I'm not a fan of Dobbs, but this time he's right. Joe Lieberman chaired the 42 minute hearing and Brownie was approved on a voice vote.

http://www.voluntarytrade.org/downloads/Brown_ConfirmHrg.pdf
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:04 PM
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8. Not Really The Point.
My fault for not making it more succinctly, I was pissed. The point is the rank hypocrisy. If these tools are allowed to have both sides of every issue we are screwed. (not that we aren't already)

Jay
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:06 PM
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11. Yeah, on that we are in agreement
:hi:

The spin is in high gear, and that's the one thing they're really good at.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:14 PM
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17. Not to mention that it wasn't exactly "The Democrats" so much as
Bush's pet Democrat, Leiberman. So supporting the president is suddenly a BAD thing? Uh huh.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:01 PM
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3. I kinda have to agree with Lou's reporting on that one
It was Lieberman who helped this guy sail through. The Dem's could have asked tougher questions.

As far as I'm concerned, the entire federal government is to blame on that one. Don't get me wrong, I am a staunch dem but I'm am more than upset with my party and have been for years.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:02 PM
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4. It is the chimps fault, but (here's where I'll get in trouble) ...
I am disappointed that the Dems appear to have done nothing to check this guy out. I can claim I'm the best auto mechanic on earth, hopefully someone will investigate enough to figure out that I can barely change a tire, much less do a brake job.

I don't like Dobbs or his show, but ...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:03 PM
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5. Did he also say that Bush deserves more blame, as
the one who nominated Micheal Brown in the first place?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:05 PM
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10. Of course not
but we cannot shirk the fact that both sides of the aisle failed on this one. It's quite obvious Shrub did.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:46 PM
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21. Brown was not fully vetted by the WH before in place for confirmation
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 06:48 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Par for the course re: Bush Administration. Move quickly, go with the gut feeling, help your buddies, and fuck whatever could be a move that is FOR our nation.

on edit: I do agree that the Dems should not have rolled over and not gone for further investigation, but that was then, this is now. Am hoping we will continue to see the rise in Dem leadership that has been happening of late, such as Conyers.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:03 PM
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6. i think we need to clean house on all dems who have rolled over
and let BFEE have it's way for the last five years. Lieberman can be the first in line. He's disgusting!
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:19 PM
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18. Yep, it is way past time
to get rid of these people. Call them and let them know. We are cleaning House and the Senate, too.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:04 PM
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7. I need to research what Dobbs was saying about the nucular option
earlier this year. And then throw it in his face.
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:05 PM
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9. I do not think so...
Congress confirms CABNET members, Brown was not a member. FEMA was demoted from the table.

I do not think brown ever came up
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:07 PM
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12. No, Lieberman was interviewed about their lack of probing
Brown's credentials. He said it would be better next time and then they showed a clip where 4 nominees names went to the table and no one but staff was there. Including Lieberman.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:07 PM
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13. Loucifer Dobbs is an asshole
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:07 PM
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14. Lou Dobbs is full of shit.
Unless he's discussing money he needs to STFU..
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:09 PM
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15. Here is some data...
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050914/NEWS/509140335/1036

So Brown's only Senate confirmation hearing came in mid-2002 for the deputy director's post. It lasted less than 45 minutes in front of the Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs. It was an uneventful hearing, even though it occurred less than a year after the Sept. 11 attacks -- a time when the importance of the agency should have been obvious. As fate and politics would have it, that would be Brown's last confirmation hearing.

Brown was not alone in the FEMA ranks when it came to lack of experience. On Friday, The Washington Post reported that five of the top eight FEMA officials have virtually no experience in handling national disasters.

Three of them (Brown, Chief of Staff Patrick J. Rhode and Deputy Chief of Staff Brooks D. Altshuler) had connections to the Bush 2000 campaign or to the White House's advance operation. Two other jobs are filled by the former Republican lieutenant governor of Nebraska, and a former U.S. Chamber of Commerce official who has been a political fund-raiser and campaign adviser.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:10 PM
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16. dems DO have to stop being so complacent...
the republican game is dirt simple: "give us what we want or we'll accuse you of being unpatriotic. give us exactly what we want and it goes to hell, shit & gone and we'll blame YOU for giving it to us!! that is school yard bullshit if ever there were any.

the time has come, past & gone to call their hand, some say it is never too late but we are about to test that adage as well

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:21 PM
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19. They COULD have shown up. There were 4 senators at his conf. hearing.
THROW THEM ALL OUT. (Reeps first of course).
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:22 PM
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20. that confirmation was an embarrassment
only 42 minutes, plus they didn't even bother to check his references.
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