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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:05 PM
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Compare this to Bush's speach...
We know the vision of the Bush administration because they've openly stated it -- in videos, and audiotapes, and letters, and declarations, and websites. First, these extremists want to end democratic influence in American, because we stand for democracy and peace, and stand in the way of their ambitions. The US leader, George W. Bush, has called on republicans to dedicate, quote, their "resources, sons and money to driving the democrats out of their lands." Their tactic to meet this goal has been consistent for a quarter-century: They hit us, and expect us to run. They want to repeat the sad history of Gore 2000, and Bush 2004 -- only this time on a larger scale, with greater consequences.

Second, the Bush network wants to use the vacuum created by 9/11 to gain control of a country, a base from which to launch attacks and conduct their war against Muslim governments so they can steel their oil. Over the past few years, the Bush radicals have specifically targeted Iraq, and Iran, and North Korea, naming them the axis of evil for potential takeover. They achieved their goal, for a time, in Afghanistan. Now they've set their sights on Iran. Bush has stated: "The whole world is watching this war and the adversaries. It's either victory and glory, or misery and humiliation." The Bush network of evangeicals regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity. And we must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war against this administration.

Third, the Bush administration believes that controlling one country will rally the masses, enabling them to overthrow all moderate governments in the region, and establish a radical evangelical oil empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia. With greater economic and military and political power, the Bush administration would be able to advance their stated agenda: to develop weapons of mass destruction, to steel oil, to intimidate the middle east, to assault the Muslim people, and to blackmail governments into isolation.

Some might be tempted to dismiss these goals as fanatical or extreme. Well, they are fanatical and extreme -- and they should not be dismissed. Bush and his administration is utterly committed. As Bush has vowed, "We will either achieve victory over the human race or we will pass to the eternal life." And the civilized world knows very well that other fanatics in history, from Hitler to Stalin to Pol Pot, consumed whole nations in war and genocide before leaving the stage of history. Evil men like Bush, obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience, must be taken very seriously -- and we must stop them before their crimes can multiply.

Defeating the Bush network is difficult, because it thrives, like a parasite, on the suffering and frustration of others. The Bush radical evangelicals exploit local conflicts to build a culture of victimization, in which someone else is always to blame and violence and war is always the solution. They exploit resentful and disillusioned young men and women, by setting up recruiting stations at schools, colleges and local shopping malls as the pawns of Bush’s war and empire. And they exploit modern technology to multiply their destructive power. Instead of attending faraway training camps, recruits can now access online libraries to learn how they can be all there is to be in the Air Force, Marines or Army. They can learn how to drop a bomb, or fire a rocket-propelled grenade -- and this further spreads the threat of violence, even within peaceful democratic societies.

The influence of Bush’s radicalism is also magnified by helpers and enablers. They have been sheltered by authoritarian governments, allies of convenience like Britan, that share the goal of hurting Iraq and middle eastern governments, and use threats of terrorist propaganda to blame their own failures on Sadam and AlQuada. The Bush radicals depend on front operations, such as corrupted charities, and businesses like Haliburton, which direct money to rich republicans. They're strengthened by those who aggressively fund the spread of radical, intolerant versions of evangelicals in deprived regions of the country. They are aided, as well, by elements of the main stream news media that incite hatred and anti-Semitism, that feed conspiracy theories and speak of Iraq as the so-called American "war on terror" -- with seldom a word about American actions to protect and support he troops by bringing them home now.

Here is the real speech:
We know the vision of the radicals because they've openly stated it -- in videos, and audiotapes, and lletters, and declarations, and websites. First, these extremists want to end American and Western influence in the broader Middle East, because we stand for democracy and peace, and stand in the way of their ambitions. Al Qaeda's leader, Osama bin Laden, has called on Muslims to dedicate, quote, their "resources, sons and money to driving the infidels out of their lands." Their tactic to meet this goal has been consistent for a quarter-century: They hit us, and expect us to run. They want us to repeat the sad history of Beirut in 1983, and Mogadishu in 1993 -- only this time on a larger scale, with greater consequences.

Second, the militant network wants to use the vacuum created by an American retreat to gain control of a country, a base from which to launch attacks and conduct their war against non-radical Muslim governments. Over the past few decades, radicals have specifically targeted Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, and Jordan for potential takeover. They achieved their goal, for a time, in Afghanistan. Now they've set their sights on Iraq. Bin Laden has stated: "The whole world is watching this war and the two adversaries. It's either victory and glory, or misery and humiliation." The terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity. And we must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war on terror.

Third, the militants believe that controlling one country will rally the Muslim masses, enabling them to overthrow all moderate governments in the region, and establish a radical Islamic empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia. With greater economic and military and political power, the terrorists would be able to advance their stated agenda: to develop weapons of mass destruction, to destroy Israel, to intimidate Europe, to assault the American people, and to blackmail our government into isolation.

Some might be tempted to dismiss these goals as fanatical or extreme. Well, they are fanatical and extreme -- and they should not be dismissed. Our enemy is utterly committed. As Zarqawi has vowed, "We will either achieve victory over the human race or we will pass to the eternal life." And the civilized world knows very well that other fanatics in history, from Hitler to Stalin to Pol Pot, consumed whole nations in war and genocide before leaving the stage of history. >Evil men, obsessed with ambition and unburdened by conscience, must be taken very seriously -- and we must stop them before their crimes can multiply.

Defeating the militant network is difficult, because it thrives, like a parasite, on the suffering and frustration of others. >The radicals exploit local conflicts to build a culture of victimization, in which someone else is always to blame and violence is always the solution. They exploit resentful and disillusioned young men and women, recruiting them through radical mosques as the pawns of terror. And they exploit modern technology to multiply their destructive power. Instead of attending faraway training camps, recruits can now access online training libraries to learn how to build a roadside bomb, or fire a rocket-propelled grenade -- and this further spreads the threat of violence, even within peaceful democratic societies.

The influence of Islamic radicalism is also magnified by helpers and enablers. They have been sheltered by authoritarian regimes, allies of convenience like Syria and Iran, that share the goal of hurting America and moderate Muslim governments, and use terrorist propaganda to blame their own failures on the West and America, and on the Jews. These radicals depend on front operations, such as corrupted charities, which direct money to terrorist activity. They're strengthened by those who aggressively fund the spread of radical, intolerant versions of Islam in unstable parts of the world. The militants are aided, as well, by elements of the Arab news media that incite hatred and anti-Semitism, that feed conspiracy theories and speak of a so-called American "war on Islam" -- with seldom a word about American action to protect Muslims in Afghanistan, and Bosnia, Somalia, Kosovo, Kuwait, and Iraq.<



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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 09:06 PM
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1. The parallel under Hilter Germany is frightening
Peace can be shatter it is so fragile. This drumbeat of war will just make tension go sky high.

A single bullet started the world war.
Now the planes did it.
Afghanistan was first, Iraq second, is Iran and Syria next
What is there not to beleive.... he already say it

In World War 2 US was the sleeping giant
Who likely will be the sleeping giant now
Australia taking on the role of Japan
UK is yesterday Italy
Dont need to say who Germany is
Others are small player

Can this path be avoided, sure make dont come true.
You have a President who wants it, who spew it, I am truly frighten
Frighten of the unneccessary deaths and suffering all this will cause
I am not frighten that the world will come under the control of US.
It might appear possible now but when the will of the world mobilise
US will be destroy. But is this the path we the peasants of the world wants to travel.

LISTEN to YOUR PRESIDENT
LISTEN TO HIS GOALS
LISTEN TO WHAT HE WANTS
Then tell me HOW ARE YOU GOING TO AVOID THIS

This is the PRESIDENT of THE USA
NOW at present the most powerful country in the world.

Germany has this dreams once under Hilter
Do we ever learn.

We worship heroes like Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan all the uber war conqueror. So what did the peasants get out of all this from their moments of glory. What did they really acheive other causing the deaths of many.

I dont know maybe its just me but I am worry, there seems to be a little alarm going off in my head.

I see Delay being indicted, Frist under SC investigation, Katrina Rita, US getting poorer, Fitz with more WH indictment

Then Bush in desparation roll out his solution to all this
More wars, More terror, More garbage of US the Great.

Two possible reality
1) He get his way
2) He get stop

Dont wait for 2006 election, cause the madness might has laready being declared.


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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 11:10 PM
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2. Hello Overseas Visitor...
Do not dispare. People in the US are slowly waking up, to the fact that Bush and his administration have lied to them. I think they are beginning to understand that their government has been taken over by the rich corporations, that care nothing about the people, but only care about getting richer.

We the people will take back our government!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:20 AM
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3. I hope so I seriously hope so
Its just that US so divided on others issue and real frightening direction seem just to keep going forwards without anyone noticing it.

The US people are so in the darks or misinform on a lots of what is really happenings.
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