Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Breaking: Judy and Bill Keller in a shouting match over mea culpa

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:32 AM
Original message
Breaking: Judy and Bill Keller in a shouting match over mea culpa
The New York Times gave Judith Miller 3,454 words in Sunday's paper to defend her actions in the Valerie Plame affair. But we hear Miller didn't appreciate the scourging she got in an accompanying 5,805-word analysis of "The Miller Case." We're told that colleagues heard Miller and executive editor Bill Keller screaming at each other in the hours before the story went to bed. (A Times spokeswoman declined to comment on whether Miller and Keller had traded words.)

Miller is said to have implored Keller to tone down the piece's criticism of her. Nevertheless, it reported that she was "a divisive figure," and that in 2003 Keller told her she could no longer cover Iraq and weapons issues because her reporting about Saddam's supposed weapons of mass destruction was so far off the mark.

Whatever her sins, Miller got a standing ovation from more than half the crowd yesterday when she received the First Amendment Award from the Society of Professional Journalists in Las Vegas. Miller, who once dubbed herself "Miss Run Amok" because "I can do whatever I want," is due to testify today before the Senate Judiciary Committee in support of a federal shield law.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/357111p-304334c.html

:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
1. Well she's just following the example of the President
Look i'm willing to admit the possibility of mistakes, but i don't want any discussion of any actual mistakes.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. pass that damn popcorn
this is better than Survivor I tell you.. I wonder who will be voted off teh Island first, or what rats will flee first?

:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
3. still love the part that says
"...Miller got a standing ovation from more than half the crowd yesterday when she received the First Amendment Award..."



Now they're turning on each other

oboyoboyoboyoboyoboy....:popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Would that be half standing or half not standing?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:42 AM
Response to Original message
4. Judy should have been let go after the WMD/embed fiasco. She
has zero journalistic ethics and the sit in jail caper was all about Judy, not journalistic freedom.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. Right..not 1st Amendment
but the 5th Amendment!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:44 AM
Response to Original message
6. isn't more than half of a partial audience almost like a mandate or
somethin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:46 AM
Response to Original message
7. Whatta CREEP.. so she "Knows" that Cheney wasn't aware of the Plame
discussions? How does SHE know? Her certainty is VERY suspicious... how can one person KNOW what another person KNOWS if they have not discussed the matter directly with said person?

Libby and Miller are a tag team.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 11:53 AM
Response to Original message
9. "First Amendment Award??"
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 11:53 AM by mzmolly
She should get the award for the most kiss ass propaganda.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
10. You know- I can understand the argument that Miller's case was
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 12:02 PM by Marr
one of those battles for the rights of journalists, but a standing ovation is ludicrous. At the very best, she's one of those extreme cases where you *might* argue the principle, but the actual disputant is so thoroughly below contempt that it pains you to do so.

It's like the ACLU's arguing for the KKK's right to march in parades. That sort of thing. They'd never give the fucking KKK a standing ovation, because they're contemptible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Good analogy

I'm a journalist & the whole "revealing a source" thing gave me a queasy feeling - but my disgust at Judith Miller - her grandstanding for the principle - has overcome my quease. She is an embarrassment, a shame, and should not have gotten any congratulations on her self-aggrandizing jail term. ESPECIALLY since she doesn't remember her source of the "Valerie Flame" name anyway. What a load of shit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
12. it fits... 'prostitution' is legal there..
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 06:08 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC