Cheney aide passed Plame's name to Libby, Hadley.....Developing...

[truthpusher]

http://rawstory.com/

headline from Rawstory

Cheney aide passed Plame's name to Libby, Hadley, those near inquiry say: Developing...

will post more when available...

limk: http://rawstory.com/

[shraby]

1. Would that be Hannah?

[Rose Siding]

2. Ok, I'll speculate...

What if it's Matlin? There was plenty of chatter about the info on Plame coming from the press -She certainly has a press aura about her, but she WAS working in Cheney's office.

It might explain the meltdown btwn Carville and Novak, too :evilgrin:

[CoffeeCat]

13. Also...Matalin has been NOWHERE to be found in the last year...

Has anyone even spotted her lately?

Also, Carville isn't on the national media as much, is he? It would be very difficult to discuss political matters when your wife sits in the eye of a storm, wouldn't it?

If she was involved, I think she would sing like a bird--very easily. She's a conservative, but she's also married to a flaming liberal. She understands the game. She understands that both sides are full of it--to some extent. I think she'd select honesty and integrity (and saving her own ass) over furthering some fascist agenda.

Interesting to speculate about her...

[The Backlash Cometh]

36. She was on Imus just last week claiming that the scandal years are

over.

[WiseButAngrySara]

14. I have wondered about Matlin for months! She was on AF1, right?

And hasn't she testified to the GJ? I think she (and therefore Carville, one can assume) knew Novracula's role in this.

[jsamuel]

3. As I predicted (Hannah):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5100272

There was one person who was both with Bolton, who requested CIA agents names around that time of the outing, and the WHIG group (Cheney's group). It was John Hannah. So, I believe that Hannah is the connection for why they told the press "Plame" instead of "Wilson" as he knew "Plame" from his boss Bolton and then told the WHIG group about "Plame" being her undercover name. If Hannah has indeed flipped, then that means that he knows enough to take both Bolton and Cheney down.

[MsKandice01]

9. Bolton AND Cheney going down??

Oh my!!!! This is super duper special Fitzmas!!

[jsamuel]

32. oh, they say it wasn't Hannah...

hmmm... I wonder if this gets Bolton off the hook then...

unless Hannah also heard it from Bolton... hmmm

[cliss]

4. Good article. It puts things in perspective.

We'll see. It's been a long wait.

[shantipriya]

5. Hannah

Does this mean Libby and Rove are off the hook? I hope not.

[johnfunk]

6. Gee, Mommy! Gee, Daddy! It's gonna be an EXTRA special Fitzmas this year!

To the tune of "We need a Little Christmas"
Music by Jerry Herman
New Lyrics by John Funk


Haul out the lawyers!
Enjoy the fun, we know the Bush Gang's going down!
File the indictments!
We never rush these things, so start to make arrests right now!

For we need a little Fitzmas
Right this very minute.
Breaking news on cable:
Bush is neck-deep in it!

Yes, we need a little Fitzmas
Right this very minute.
Can't wait to see Dick Cheney's fury.
Oh Patrick, dear, we're in a hurry!

Serve all the bad guys
Papers in light blue covers 'til they're gone.
Slap on the handcuffs.
It's time we saw a frog march on the White House lawn.

For we need a little Fitzmas,
Need a little laughter
Need a little singing
Karl Rove in the slammer
And we need to make our nation
Happy ever after
We need a little Fitzmas now!

[LiberalEsto]

8. That's heartwarming!

Please post it in the DU compilation of Fitzmas carols.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5144894

[cmd]

23. Love it

That always was my favorite carol.

[Stephanie]

7. Wurmser?

Didn't they say Wurmser flipped?

[MsKandice01]

10. I can't read that name

Without thinking of Revenge of the Nerds.

[Stephanie]

33. I WIN!

hah!

[DS1]

11. Developing

Yay!

[dubyaD40web]

15. Hard

Yay!

[Catherine Vincent]

12. Where does Rove fit into all of this?

I hope that pig doesn't slip by this!

[Perky]

17. Rove will get a pass on the leak

but be indicted on Perjury, obstruction and lying to a Grand Jury.

My suspicion is that he passed on data that he should not have had, but mught legitimately claim that he was not aware. In this particular case, ignorance of the fact that it was classified gives you a pass. That is the way the statute is writeen.

Unfortunately, with the other charges, bush can argue that its simply politics on the cover-up charges and that He trusts Rove.

That quite honestly if fine by me,,,,,let Karl stay around and let him be a lightening rod for the right and the left.

[Neil Lisst]

16. John Hannah looks to be the next John Dean

Which is what the prosecutor really needs - the insider who has turned and is telling all.

[Coexist]

18. STORY UP!!!! Here's the line that I like best:

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheney_aide_passed_Plames_name_to_1024.html
<SNIP>
"Within a week, Wurmser, on orders from "executives in the office of the vice president," was told to leak her name to a specific group of reporters in an effort to muzzle her husband, Wilson, who had become a thorn in the side of the administration, those close to the inquiry say."

[Coexist]

19. Let's not overlook these two gems:

<snip>
"Although the CIA documents that Wurmser and his staff poured over never showed Iraq as being an immediate threat, Wurmser was dead set on finding and presenting evidence to Vice President Dick Cheney that suggested as much even if the veracity of such intelligence was questionable. Wurmser had met with now discredited Iraqi exiles who were part of the Iraqi National Congress, headed by Ahmed Chalabi, the infamous single source of Judith Miller's explosive columns published in the New York Times that said Iraq was acquiring nuclear bomb components, who is now the Deputy Prime Minister of Iraq, sources close the probe said.

With the help of Chalabi, and the White House Iraq Group, Wurmser helped Cheney's office, particularly the vice president's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, build a case for war. Wurmser frequently met with Cheney, Libby, Feith and Richard Perle, the former head of the Defense Policy Board, to go over the "evidence" of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein that could then be used by the White House to build public support for the Iraq war. Wurmser routinely butted heads with the CIA over the veracity of the intelligence he was providing to Cheney's office, sources close the investigation said."

Great article, Rawstory!

[lovuian]

20. I'm sorry this doesn't make sense even though it trys too!!!

It talks NOTHING about Air Force One where Colin Powell had Plame's file!!! I think Cheney found out there!!!

This is a smokescreen!!!

Yes Wurmser was involved but Rove called Cooper and Libby called Judith!!!

so lets get it straight this guys knew and I'm thinking this is trying to get away from Cheney!!!

[johnfunk]

24. You're sorta right, but the key detail...

..is that Wurmser was instructed to do the leaking! And, like the good WHIG/PNAC/Neofascicon he was, he followed orders.

Fork. Done.

[Teaser]

26. Cheney wasn't on Air Force One.

He flies on Air Force Two. The other story was crap.

[Gregorian]

29. I don't think that matters.

They're in direct communication regarless of their location. I'm sure there are cameras and tv screens that allow them communication as though they were in the same room.

[Teaser]

35. It matters to the story in question.

The story the user referenced refered to Powell showing Cheney while on Air Force One. Cheney was not on Air Force One. Ergo, that story is false. Now, I'm fairly certain that there was coordination between Cheney and his lieutenants on this. But the rumor that Power cued Cheney in from a few days ago is apparently false.

[Gregorian]

38. Yes, I read that story, but..

But that wording does not exclude Cheney being on Air Force 2, or even in the White House. I believe that other story was true, even though they don't fly together.
I see Powell and Bush discussing it with Cheney over a live video link. You know they must have that. It's as though the pres and the vp are in virtual contact at all times.
I'm saying that Cheney was "virtually" on AF 1.

[hang a left]

31. No. I don't understand the reasoning now behing the big deal

of the memo on AF1. I think that has been the smokescreen. The bottom line is they knew back in June. This actually nails Cheney.

[jazzjunkysue]

21. Wurmser was told to leak her name...Ding, Ding! We have a winner!

Johnny, tell him what he's won!

That would be an all expense paid vacation to the South Arlington minimum security facility, transfers included!

[johnfunk]

22. Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase,...

"The 'Wurm' Has Turned!"

[geek tragedy]

25. This could mean that the only crime was in the cover up.

It's plausible that they were just really sloppy rather than willfully criminal.

But then they committed crimes to cover up the politically embarrassing truth.

[Zynx]

27. That's good enough for me. It was good enough to get Nixon.

[robertpaulsen]

28. Condisleeza, Condisleeza, Wurm has blamed you...

Libby then shared the information with Karl Rove, President Bush's deputy chief of staff, the sources said. Wurmser also passed on the same information about Wilson and his CIA to Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and Security Adviser Condoleeza Rice, they added.

[hang a left]

30. Well I guess ** was wrong when he said "we might never find

the leaker". :rofl:

[Stephanie]

34. "executives in the office of the vice president,"

Ummm, how many "executives" are there in that office. I'm thinking, maybe, ONE?

[WI_DEM]

37. What did the vice president know, and when did he know it?