Why do we hate the Fundies so much?

[Perky]

Poll question: Why do we hate the Fundies so much?

THis is not not flame bate I am just curious as to souirces of hatred.

I ralizte that most will want to select all of the choices...I am justcurious about which of these people are most concerned about.

[DanCa]

1. I have young onset parkinson's and need Stem Cell Research

Not only have I been kicked out thier churches they don't want me walkin'. I did vote for you last question though.

[annabanana]

2. because fundamentalism is a cancer

on Christianity, Islam, Judaism, on whatever religion is the host.

[DanCa]

3. Word Up (nt)

[Perky]

10. I gott disgree in part.

Fundamentaism take a huge wrong turn when it tries to bully non-adherants or iompose its curent thoughts upon the larger society...bo doube.

But at the same time I think there is value in fundamentaism to the extent that is serves as a bastion of orthdoxy and a guard agaianst a sect's slide in to exisitentialism and modernity. Not that they are right on every point WITHIN the religion, not they they are not oversealosu i many way. simply that without them most sects would fall apart due to lack of cohesion. To move way way from time honored Doctrine within the sect... you should have to fight for it.

I am simply saying thata natural fundamentism has value within a religion... not outside.

[annabanana]

13. I've always figured that existentialism is a

natural growth away from rigidity when it is no longer required for tribe survival.

[Perky]

22. But see the Orthodox

Woul argue that tha it is precicely about survival. The fundies would argue gigidity is valuable for expansion. (Hitler 1938)

[FM Arouet666]

38. I wibish I coulbt undersabnd whabt your sayking.

Stop posting while intoxicated. Stop it NOW.....

Sorry, a cheap shot, but I feel cheap tonight. :evilgrin:

[jonnyblitz]

4. you are obsessed. nt

[beam me up scottie]

25. No kidding.

:crazy:

[hwmnbn]

5. Hypocritical bastards think.....

they are morally superior. They are just brain-dead cult zombies trying to tell me how to live MY life.

[nookiemonster]

8. I agree. It's the hypocrisy that really grates my ass.

n/t

[OldLeftieLawyer]

6. I don't hate them

I'd like to club each and every one of them to death, a la baby seals at the roundup, though.

Is that hate? Or just sport?

[givemebackmycountry]

7. NONE of the above

Here's why...

If the Monkey or Darth Evil (The VP) went on national TV and said...

"Liberals are a danger to this country. Liberals undermine the war on terror and hate our troops. They must be stopped"

Many of these people (and when I think of "fundies" I don't necessarily think of Christian Fundamentalists) would pick up a weapon and start shooting within minutes.

THAT'S why I distrust them.
I don't hate them.
Like any other group, including our little community, there are both good and bad.

But, since I own a few weapons myself, they don't want to come to my address.

THAT'S WHY.

[seabeyond]

9. i dont hate them i live amongst them. i love them

they are misguided and they are causing damage in the name of the lord that effect my children and my childrens friends. they are fighting so hard to have jesus in their heart as they push christs words away from them out of fear and ignorance. those that preach to them see a way to control them, using their fears, in order to have more power themselves in the most greedy and corrupt way. totally opposite of christs words

you dont have a choice, i dont hate them. this is a poor poll only allowing the answer you want. hate....

hate does nothing but feed into the pain the fundamentalists are creating now.

[stillcool]

11. Because they preach hate...

in everything they do.

[erinlough]

12. none of the above

don't hate them, but I get tired of their myopic view that they and their beliefs have some special place in my life. I don't want to hear their views on religion, I have heard them and consciously rejected them. I don't want to have them bless me, pray for me, or really even talk to me about their belief system. I don't care about their feelings "as Christians", but I might care about their feelings on issues if they were willing to leave their belief system out of it.

[moondust]

14. delete

[Pab Sungenis]

15. I'm with Lea DeLaria on this one....

It's the principle of Conservation of Acrimony, or as she calls it, "Italian Karma."

THEY hate US, so WE hate THEM!

[cassiepriam]

16. They are evil. Murder, theft, torture. etc etc

[mmonk]

17. Every action should have

an equal and opposite reaction. They are on the attack. This attack is against my constitution and way of life. Any attack (verbal or political) on them is purely a reaction to their aggressive actions.

[LWolf]

18. I don't hate them.

Hate is a disease, in my opinion, and I don't allow it to infect me.

I pity them, because their view is so narrow they are blinded to the beauty of the world and her people that surrounds them every day.

I distrust them, because they can't be depended on to think independently, make independent decisions, and choices based on the greater good.

I disagree with their choices. They've chosen to be sheep, and to let others do the thinking and leading. They follow, obey, and repeat rhetoric that they don't understand and don't live by. They're refusal to think and make ethical choices brings harm to others, so I get angry.

Pity, anger, distrust, disagreement, yes. Hate, no.

[lectrobyte]

19. I don't think "hate" is the right word. I'm a live-and-let-live kind of

person, and this whole era of politicized churches (they give out "voting guides" here) and faith-based initiatives is not the country I grew up, and seems to be headed for some rather ominous conclusions.

[tlsmith1963]

20. They Want Everyone to Be Like Them

They want to force everyone to be fundamentalist Christian. Sorry, but America is many religions. They need to accept this, or maybe they need to go to another country if they hate the *diversity* here so much.

Tammy

[Douglas Carpenter]

21. love the fundie -- hate fundamentalism

Since I was raised around fundamentalist and my last remaining living relative besides my atheist brother is my right wing fundamentalist 84 year-old Aunt Betty - I know that many--if not most of them a reasonably nice people outside of their twisted political and religious world view. Most were either raised and have lived their entire lives in this very narrow interpretation of reality or turned to it when they faced crisis in their personal life. It is system which answer everything in a very uncertain world.

Some years ago I got to know a small community of Marxist-Leninist. I was amazed how similar their basic thought patterns are. They both claim absolute moral certainty. They both have an answer for everything.

[Bridget Burke]

23. Not all Fundamentalists want to run the the country

In the past, most Fundamentalists avoided political involvement. Their faiths often had a history of oppression by Established Churches.

I remember when the Religious Right took over the Texas Republican Party. Since then, the partnership has grown & both groups have "prospered."

www.theocracywatch.org/taking_over.htm

[beam me up scottie]

24. Because they can't spell ?

:dunce:

[arwalden]

26. Are you series? Eye disagrea wiht the premiseof you're qeustoin!!!11

Ido thoink its intereisting two noat teh wordking of the orginal questoin and teh chioces. Like yu. I allso ralizte that ths iz an ioshue four mini peepul. Butte clearlea thsi i flame bate psot, bo doube. Altho u didntn meam it too be flam bate, teh questoin it self is baised.

[salvorhardin]

27. Well, you know, there's hate and then there's *hate*

I hate aspects of fundamentalism that try to impose what I feel are regressive, authoritarian characteristics on society. I like the ideal of the modern, progressive, secular society that we've been struggling towards in the U.S. since it's inception. And I hate it when one group, albeit one of many, tries to turn back the clock; a group that embraces the ideas and concepts that are more at home in the 16th C. than the 20th or 21st centuries. So yeah, I hate that aspect of fundamentalism that wants to impose a theocracy and opposes democracy.

Then there's the hate of the individual and that I don't have. I really wonder how someone can abdicate their personal autonomy to an entity that I don't believe exists or allows another group to use their theistic belief against them. But I don't hate them.

[The Sleeper]

28. When you know you are one of the chosen..

...it makes it that much easier to exterminate those who would infect the body politic. We are their scapegoat, their "other", inferior to them.

How can you NOT hate people who think of you that way, and are clearly not far from the mentality of "Make the World a better Place: Hang a Liberal."

[Hubert Flottz]

29. They enabled Bush to wreck the country.

I hate people who hate America enough to want to turn the PNAC loose to destroy us!

[AntiCoup2K4]

30. They're so fucking stupid that they believe the Chimp is a Christian

Not to mention Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, etc. As Bono says in his current Rolling Stone interview, these guys are the "traders (money changers) in the temple" Not the true believers in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

And the red state "Christians" buy into this crap because they don't actually READ their bibles. Their interpretation of Scripture comes either from their own pastor, or from these televangelist bastards.

If you sent your kids to school and they had a math teacher who told them that 2 + 2 = 5, and then never encouraged them to open a math book or even pick up a calculator, how long would that teacher have a job?

[BurtWorm]

31. You have to speak for yourself.

There's no policy to hate "fundies" as far as I know.

As for me, I mistrust people who cling to belief in magic.

[BL611]

32. Shouldn't one of the choices be

because in our own way we are every bit as intolerant as they are...

[DanCa]

33. Wow am I the only one with the right is actually torturing physically?

Lol I think am the winner of this thread. :)

[leesa]

34. You can't figure it out? You need to get over this.

[Zenlitened]

35. Because "fundie" is the exact opposite of "progressive"

Because they pit superstition and ignorance against reason and the courage to admit that we are in control of our own destinies.

Because they --

Oh, wait. Did you really want honest answers, or were you hoping to collect examples of "bashing"?

[cassiepriam]

36. They have put us in incredible danger. For generations to come.

Politically, financially, morally.

[converted_democrat]

37. I don't like the idea of anyone imposing their ideas on me. n/t