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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:43 AM
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Dropping Harryette-smart move, unites base before Fitz. Report comes out
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 10:12 AM by bluedawg12
Smart move. They are trying to minimize their damage before the Fitz. report comes out and they would have had a split base.

the base will now unite behind shrub after the indictment come out.

When the Fitz. decision comes out- if there will be bad news for shrubco. as expected- the base will now be united behind the white house.

Smart move and good timing for shrubber. Circling the wagons.

In order to keep the base faithful to him he will now have to pick another real RW'er in the "mould" of Thomas and Scalia.

This points out something we have been worried about here: the danger of trapped rats.

Never discount them, they are in power, and the forces in the background will not go quietly.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:46 AM
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1. Um, the base hates Fitz already
it's not going to change a thing. They all hate him, regardless of whether or not Bush nominated Miers.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:09 AM
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3. Unites base before Fitz report comes out
Not unites base on behalf of Fitz. that is a given.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 11:44 AM
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8. That's what I meant.
The base unilaterally HATES FITZ already. The Miers thing will change nothing.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:18 AM
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5. Agreed.
The withdrawal of Miers is nothing but an embarrassment to the President. There's no silver lining, even for him.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:48 AM
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2. The Base Is Losing Faith In Dubya, Too
and since faith is all he had going for him, it's curtains! Get the hook!
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:17 AM
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4. He's got the base back now and they want him to pick
a conservative ideologue.

Good timing- if they hadn't doen this then tomorrow when the Fitz. indictments come out it would have been very lonely for shrub as his RW base was already dropping off.

He has cicrcled the wagons.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:20 AM
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6. But I don't think this would be a good idea for Bush, either.
Nominating someone conservative enough to thrill the Christian conservative base will only serve to piss off the Democrats, at a time when Bush's Presidency has been weakened considerably.

Of course, Chimpy's been known to do politically foolish acts before, so maybe you're onto something. :-)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:27 AM
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7. exactly what i think and thought was going to happen...
they did this so they could do this at the opportune time ...they planned this to the T...the reich wing was about to bring out commercials against harriet..the * admin got the reich wing in a fervor..just so they could appease them just before the hammer drops..those fucking reich wing care nothing about laws..or lies to war..or killing babies in iraq..they only give a damn about abortion..they are some sick fucks...so * throws them a bone today before the law breaking... news breaks..and the fundie fucks will all say..well we don't care if the * fuck broke the law..we don't care if he killed 2000+ troops in a lie of a war..we don't care if he killed iraqi babies and children and mothers....no siree..those sick fundie fucks will be supporting * because he bent over for them..and took it for them!!

sorry but i fucking hate those little fucks!

this was all planned...nothing this white house does isn't planned...

wonder where the fundies righteous hypocrites are.. on almost 8000 people missing in new orleans ?? and approx 1700 of them being children???

they don't give a rats ass!

they are sick mtf' ers...

fly
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:03 PM
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10. How cynical of shrubco- using SCOTUS like a bargaining chip!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 12:04 PM by bluedawg12
He could have waited for the Congressional hearings allowing Harryette a chance to testify, if the Fitzgerald investigation wasn't barreling down on him and cronies.


I am seeing this as a sign that the WH is expecting some very bad news and they have to pick their fight and Harryette is not a high value fight.

Think about this: Shrub now gets to have something the RW wants- another chance at a radicalright wing nominee- and now the radicalright will have to support him for a while even through the thick and thin of indictments.

How cynical of shrubco- using SCOTUS like a bargaining chip!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 11:45 AM
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9. we are talking about 28% of his people. the rest see morAN
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 11:46 AM by seabeyond
incompetent
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:23 PM
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11. This was a war between neocons and theocons
I think the religious right wanted Harriet.

The neocons did not find her to be intellectually qualified to be their standard bearer for who knows what they have up their sleeves. But I bet it goes far beyond Roe v. Wade.

The neocons won.

This is worth remembering because this is where the power in the conservative movement resides. Shrubco will come and go, the neocons will remain and we cannot rest on our laurels.

I think the neocons pay lip service to social issues but their goal is global and geopolitical. They have bigger fish to fry. Look at how strongly the neocons came out against Harriet- and stop and consider how much power they wield.

Their opinions were all over talk shows and the WaPO. These unelected pundits sure have a disproportionate amount of power don't they?

.........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/06/AR2005100601468.html

Withdraw This Nominee

By Charles Krauthammer

Friday, October 7, 2005; Page A23
By choosing a nominee suggested by Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid and well known only to himself, the president has ducked a fight on the most important domestic question dividing liberals from conservatives: the principles by which one should read and interpret the Constitution. For a presidency marked by a courageous willingness to think and do big things, this nomination is a sorry retreat into smallness.
.........
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/06/AR2005100602069.html
Right Sees Miers as Threat to a Dream

By Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 7, 2005; Page A01
"No one has anything against her," said William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and one of the first conservatives to register his disappointment. "But the idea that one is supposed to sacrifice both intellectual distinction and philosophical clarity at the same time is just ridiculous."
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