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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:30 PM
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SICK:"Requisitioning Iraqi Homes"!Sounds Like A Military OCCUPATION To Me.
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 06:44 PM by leftchick
And it looks like one too. This is some very sick shit the US is doing....




An Iraqi man makes his way through sleeping U.S. Marines inside his house in Hit, 200 kilometers (125 miles) west of Baghdad, Iraq, Tuesday, June 28, 2005. The Marines call it a necessary evil, taking over houses and buildings for military use. For the Iraqis who become unwilling hosts, it can be anything from a mild inconvenience to a disruption that tears apart lives. (AP Photo/Jacob Silberberg)



A U.S. Marine smokes while sitting on an Iraqi's bed while another Marine holds up a doll found in a house in Parwana, near Haditha, Iraq, on Aug. 6, 2005. The Marines call it a necessary evil, taking over houses and buildings for military use. For the Iraqis who become unwilling hosts, it can be anything from a mild inconvenience to a disruption that tears apart lives. (AP Photo/Jacob Silberberg)



U.S. Marines sleep in a house in Hit, 200 kilometers (125 miles) west of Baghdad, Iraq, June 28, 2005. The Marines call it a necessary evil, taking over houses and buildings for military use. For the Iraqis who become unwilling hosts, it can be anything from a mild inconvenience to a disruption that tears apart lives. (AP Photo/Jacob Silberberg)


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Iraqis Forced to Take in Uninvited Troops

HADITHA, Iraq -- The Marines call it a necessary evil -- taking over houses and buildings for military use. For the Iraqis who become unwilling hosts, it can be anything from a mild inconvenience to a disruption that tears apart lives.

In a recent offensive in Haditha, the headmaster of one school where Marines were based pressed them for a departure date so he could resume classes. At another school, Marines fortified the building with blast walls and sandbags for long-term use.

A trembling woman wept when Marines tried to requisition her home to set up an observation post with a view of a nearby road where a bomb had been planted. The Marines quickly left, using her neighbor's rooftop instead.

<snip>

Requisitioning homes or other buildings has been widespread in Iraq for U.S. troops on missions who stay far away from bases, sometimes for several days or weeks. During major offensives, the temporary bases deep inside cities allow troops to send out more patrols and respond quickly to attacks rather than going all the way back to bases on the outskirts of town.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-iraq-taking-over-houses,0,2386287.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:33 PM
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1. I am having a senior moment. When the British did this to
Americans before the revolution, what did they call it?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:36 PM
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2. probably not "requisitioning?
that sounds like a thoroughly 21st century rummy tag.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:44 PM
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6. I think it was "billeting," lead to the Third Amendment to the
U.S. Constitution.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:45 PM
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7. and we know how well the neocons know their constitution
:grr:
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:50 PM
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10. Cripes! It's in the constitution and I can't remember either. Quartered?
(Senior moment here also.) Anyway, guess it's ok as long as it's WE who are doing it to some brown people..

This is disgraceful!! They have every right to hate us.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:55 PM
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11. THIRD AMENDMENT
THIRD AMENDMENT
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any
house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war,
but in a manner to be prescribed by law.



Google is your friend. :) (TM)
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:19 PM
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16. Thanks. I coulda looked that up. ..
suffering from brain-lock tonight. :(
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:30 PM
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32. Why do we call Iraqis "brown people?" I keep thinking of that
Iraqi General who had red hair and freckles.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:27 PM
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19. That was my first thought too
---------------------------------------------------------------
Tired of nutty in your face fundies? Me too!
http://www.livejournal.com/community/thought_express/14905.html
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:46 PM
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23. the Quartering Act
not real popular with the American colonials.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:40 PM
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3. I am sure the Iraqis felt this way from the first day.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:43 PM
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5. I am curious as to why the photogs have actually been able to
get these photos out now. I know this has been going on since day one yet these are the firt phots I have seen. Perhaps the marines are getting a little pissed off at the non-mission in Iraq.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:41 PM
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4. Sick is right. This is so WRONG. nm
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:45 PM
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8. This is wrong.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:50 PM
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9. "Freedom" and "democracy" my ass!!!!
Can you imagine how the radical right-wing would behave if foreign soldiers took over their homes?

This is just so damn WRONG!!! :cry:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:55 PM
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12. Now there is a great visual!
Iraqis in Tom Delay"s Ranch, Chimpy's pig farm. Hastert's mega mcmansion and Lott's LA Front porch!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:59 PM
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14. Check the US Bill of Rights. Article3. No soldier to be quartered
in homes without permission of the owner, nor in time of war unless prescribed by law.

In short in the US we have a constitution that bans this.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:58 PM
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13. Permission to puke the next time you hear a propagandist say how
much we have done for the people and how much they like us.

How many American deaths equate to this disaster of inconsiderateness?

So why doesn't Chalabi supply new housing?

Phoney lying killer Rumsfeld and all his gung ho generals and ceo's, plus the stockholders. I hope the profits you are making make up for the horror you wreak down upon these pitiful victims of your greedy and arrogant killing and torture.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:10 PM
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15. It's worse than you could ever imagine in Iraq. The Iraqis are paying
the price and taking the punishment for living on top of "our" oil.

"kick their ass and steal their gas"
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:42 PM
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22. Pretty much exactly like the Indians and Mexicans paid the price
for Manifest Destiny.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 PM
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31. yes in deed
:(
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:21 PM
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17. U. S. Constitution--Third Amendment
U.S. Constitution: Third Amendment
Third Amendment - Quartering Soldiers
Amendment Text | Annotations

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/constitution/amendment03/
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:26 PM
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18. What Constitution?
I know for a fact the neocons know of no US Constituton. :grr:
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:41 PM
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20. It violates international law, too, and has been going on for a while
See this article from 2003:

Contrary to policy, US forces occupy schools and church

(snip)

This reporter witnessed the Humvees stopping outside a girls' school - currently closed because of the war - heaving their backpacks over a cement fence into the playground. On the roof of a Christian church next door, US troops were setting up communications equipment.

The entrance to a nearby boys' school had been reinforced with sandbags and armed Kurdish militiamen, pesh merga, were on guard outside. A boys' school was also seen being occupied by US forces, and local residents say three schools - all closed - now house US troops.

The US military, for its part, says it has no information on this particular operation. "But it certainly is our policy to not establish military headquarters or other operations in protected areas under the Geneva Convention," says Lt. Col. Gary Keck, a spokesman for the Department of Defense in Washington.

(snip)

Alfred Rubin, a professor of international law at Tuft's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, says the US actions may violate The Hague Convention, which compels combatants to take "...all necessary steps to spare as far as possible buildings dedicated to religion, art, science, charitable purposes, hospitals, and places where the sick and wounded are collected."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0404/p07s01-woiq.html
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:42 PM
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21. Why are they there anyways in their houses??
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:46 PM
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24. I sure hope their rations don't include pork...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:51 PM
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26. From Mosques to people's homes.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:50 PM
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25. Freedom to give up your house and rights.
Sad.
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DaytonOHDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:54 PM
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27. Oh my God! I cannot believe this.
This is the first time I have heard of this. Can you imagine if some country invaded the U.S. and they decided to use your home to keep their troops. I am sorry but this is beyond sick. Didn't the British do this to us before the Revolutionary War and wasn't that one of the many reasons we went to war in the first place?

I am totally shocked and disgusted by this.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:09 PM
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28. yes yes and yes
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 08:10 PM by leftchick
all true and the USA has been doing this in Iraq since day one. The difference here is it is now being reported. Perhaps the marines are fucking sick of it as well.

Welcome to DU DaytonOHDem!

:)
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DaytonOHDem Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:15 PM
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29. Thank you very much leftchick.
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:19 PM
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30. and some people call the 3rd Amendment archaic
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