Four More Years -- Courtesy of Judy Miller

[MelissaB]

Four More Years -- Courtesy of Judy Miller

Among the many facts that we learned from Patrick Fitzgerald's press conference, one of the most dramatic came in response to a question about whether it was "worth keeping Judy Miller in jail for 85 days?": "I would have wished nothing better," Fitzgerald replied, "than, when the subpoenas were issued in August 2004, witnesses testified then.

We would have been here in October 2004 instead of October 2005. No one would have to jail."

Hmmm, October 2004. That was right before November 2004.

Does anyone doubt that if Patrick Fitzgerald had held a press conference announcing five indictments against a key member of the Bush administration just before the last election it would have affected the outcome? Would the two men whose lies Libby was ultimately lying to cover up have been re-elected?

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/four-more-years-courte_b_9732.html

[Blackthorn]

1. Probably not

..they had the whole thing sewn up Diebold-style. Just would have made it far more obvious, but they still woulda done it.

[MelissaB]

2. Remember that info. was kept secret in Ohio, too, until the election was

over. Does "Coingate" ring a bell? Noe?

On edit: I agree with what you are saying about our screwed up elections. This is just more information that was being "swept under the rug" imho.

[MelissaB]

7. Here is one article.

October 28, 2005

Third Bush Administration Insider Indicted This Month on Criminal Charges

The indictment today of Vice- President Cheney's Chief of Staff Lewis Libby is the third just in October 2005 of Bush Administration insiders indicted on federal criminal charges.

Lewis "Scooter" Libby, October 28, 2005
Per the New York Times today, "A federal grand jury indicted Mr. Libby on one count of obstruction, two counts of perjury and two of making false statements in the course of an investigation that raised questions about the administration's rationale for going to war against Iraq, how it treats critics and political opponents and whether high White House officials shaded the truth."

Per AP, "If convicted on all five (counts), he could face as much as 30 years in prison and $1.25 million in fines."

Thomas Noe, October 27, 2005
Noe, Chairman of President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign in northwest Ohio, and a major fund-raiser for Bush's re-election campaign, was indicted by a federal grand jury on three counts for allegedly laundering money into President Bush’s re-election campaign.

Per the Toledo-Blade newspaper, "The three-count indictment says that beginning in October 2003, Mr. Noe contributed to President Bush’s election campaign 'over and above the limits established by the Federal Election Campaign Act.' The two other counts were for conspiracy and filing false statements.
The indictment alleges Mr. Noe’s actions caused false statements to the Federal Elections Commission and defrauded the United States and that he directed his conduit donors to fill out the false statements. Mr. Noe faces the maximum penalty of five years in prison on each count."

More: http://usliberals.about.com/b/a/214347.htm

[Straight Shooter]

3. The gap would have been much wider.

Also, we can only hope that it would have emboldened Kerry's team to be more aggressive in their campaigning.

I'm not going to call this water under the bridge though. It's more like blood under the bridge. I hope the bush team all drowns in it, tied to Judas Miller like a big heavy rock.

[Kolesar]

12. whatever that means

Diebold-style

[kurth]

4. Judy Miller is an anti-American traitor

Plain and simple. How could anyone call her a "reporter" or "journalist"? She will have a very nice and comfortable life after her mutually agreed upon departure from the Times, but her name will live on in infamy.

[bo44]

5. Probably would've made a difference

Non-fundie macho men in SUV's sitting on 20's would've woke and either stayed home or voted Kerry. But, there could have been a plane wreck on a flight from DC to Chicago or a Swift Boat campaign to keep the brain deads in line.

[KoKo]

6. I loved this comments poster on Arianna's piece: Bush is "Gated Community"

(Note, I don't agree with the comment about him being at least as bad a Leftist President or that we should only elect "Centrists" but he rest is pretty good.)
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by: Brigette on October 28, 2005 at 10:49pm
Is this comment abusive? spam? I have a theory about the power of the Presidency in American life: they not only head the Executive Branch, they set the tone of the years they preside over. Like royalty in Europe used to do when it had real power, what went on in the microcosm of royal life set a parallel for the health of the country at large.

We have, by nature, a smug, petulant, divisive, grudge-bearing, codependent, mother-fixated, visionless personality as our President. And he, more than any other President in my lifetime, is a definitive illustration of my point.
To reference Brigette's comment, it is George W. Bush who is the epicenter of our national woundedness. He is both the expression of and the intensification of the ideological secession of the Far Right from mainstream civic life.

If George Bush were real estate, he'd be a gated community, where only those with the correct ideological access codes would gain his admission and attention. He is at least as bad as having someone from the polarized Far Left as President.

The healing will begin when we have the sense to elect centrists from both parties who truly work for solutions instead of the empty grandstanding on C-SPAN and the Sunday morning MSM talk shows.

You make a good point, Arianna. Judy may also be responsible for four more years. Good for you for connecting the dots in realtime.

[MelissaB]

8. kicking for the evening crowd

[DemReadingDU]

9. Recommended

[robbedvoter]

10. They would have stolen it anyway (Kerry won, ya know...)

But yeah, a lot of facts were concealed then....

[Julius Civitatus]

11. It wouldn't matter. They still have Diebold to do the recount

As long as they keep the unsupervised means to commit election fraud, they will keep winning, no matter what.

People need to face the music: the Republican party has become the American equivalent of the Mexican PRI, a wholly corrupt bureaucratic machine aimed exclusively at grabbing power and money.

[mzmolly]

13. My thoughts exactly when I heard the Fitzgerald statement.

UHM, Thanks Judy! :eyes:

[fooj]

14. Me. too!

The bitch wasn't protecting a source. She was protecting the election! She is a traitor. Pure and Simple.

peace.

[stop the bleeding]

15. What mandate - He, he, he - God where are you? Strike these holes

down. :nuke:

[Hailtothechimp]

16. Arianna gets it right again, as usual. n/t