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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:01 PM
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Why does someone detonate themself in the middle of a wedding?
It just doesn't make any sense. :-(
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:02 PM
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1. Dunno. No clue. No idea at all. I got nothing. eom
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:04 PM
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2. They are the sickest of the sick
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:04 PM
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3. To kill the people in the wedding for massive effect
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mtowngman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:05 PM
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4. Maybe the idea is not only government, police, military
etc. are targets, but anyone doing anything, ordinary citizens are at risk. Increases the terror factor. I hope that made sense.
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OhNoTheyDidNot Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:09 PM
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5. If you are told something your entire life by everyone you know, and you
don't have the opportunity to get educated and learn otherwise, you would most likely accept it as fact. The majority of suicide bombers honestly think they are doing Gods work (sorry Allah's work). They never get an alternative point of view. Think of it like this. After all we know about BushCo, why do some americans still believe he is doing good for our country? Because they are brainwashed to believe thier team is good and our team is evil. Pass em the koolaid
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:14 PM
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6. Probably for the same reason someone would drop bombs on a wedding
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,748300,00.html

I don't expect an apology from the perpetrators of the Jordan atrocity, either.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:16 PM
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7. It's a type of gathering,
and gatherings can be "productive" targets.

(Maybe this gathering had light security too.)

And it turns a joyous event into one of sadness, pain and terror.

Psywar in a physical form.

But then, maybe you weren't asking about those "leaders" who send out such bombers.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:16 PM
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8. a crowd of people...
in an American hotel makes way too much sense to me. Rage, injustice, and lack of options...There is so much going on in the world today that strikes my soul..making me feel way too much.
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:17 PM
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9. The real question
Why get married at all?
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:17 PM
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10. I haven't been keeping up
Did the bombers intentionally target a wedding? It wasn't just a coincidence?
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:19 PM
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11. Because you're party's under the microscope....
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 11:19 PM by madeline_con
and you need to stoke the fires of fear to rally the neocons.

It can't be done here, it would freak out too many faithful followers, and shut down the economy (people would be afraid to go to Walmart), so it's best if it happens in an "allied" country.

spelling edit
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:20 PM
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12. They hated the band?
A jilted lover?

Bad cake?

Too much fruit juice?

The ululating accidentally set off the detonator?

Just guessing .............
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:22 PM
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13. Maybe the bomber had lost a loved one in an act of violence?
And this was the only way that individual felt that justice could be done?

Who knows? :shrug:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:25 PM
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14. fanaticism
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 11:25 PM by mmonk
It's everywhere. It's in Jordan. It's in Bali. It's in Palestine. It's in America. It's in France.

What makes me sad is that we are participants (Americans). I had hope for the 21st century, but man are we taking steps backward.

I hope there is somewhere where there is no fanaticism, no cause or god or ideology where humans must feel they must kill. I want to go there and take my family.
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:27 PM
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15. They're not just fanatics, but...
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 11:28 PM by cigsandcoffee
religious fanatics - the very worst sort.


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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:29 PM
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16. Target-rich environment
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:35 AM
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30. Good one
Rummie will soon begin to eat those words, I hope.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:39 PM
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17. To get attention.
Like in advertising. Even negative publicity attention.

Case in point, YOU'RE thinking about it.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:39 PM
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18. Maybe this was not their first wedding?
:shrug:

Maybe the chicken dance song was next?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:49 PM
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38. The chicken dance is the greatest musical work of the 20th century!
And you can quote me on that!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:44 PM
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19. I waited until my honeymoon. But it was more emotional than
literal.

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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:44 PM
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20. When life appears hopeless all around

a person looks to make his final mark in the world.

Some people have the mental strength to withstand all the stresses and strains around them. Others look for relief in their "religious" values.

Remember the self-immolation of Buddhists.

To solve the problem of suicide bombers you have to solve the idea of hopelessness, which is being exploited by the religious fundamentalists of all religions - not just Islamists.

It is necessary to put in jail all those who sponsor and give cause for the growth of religious fundamentalism.

Bush and Blair are first on my list, along with all those who signed that PNAC letter.

What do you think those who had their families roasted with White Phosphorous at fallujah are likely do - stand quietly and protest and continue to die like flies?

Look inside first before looking outside to condemn people!

I do not agree with the method of suicide bombers - but look where the cause is, not the effect!
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:46 PM
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21. For the same reason we kill innocents in Iraq
:-(
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:36 AM
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25. Not quite
When we call civilians we deny or downplay it. Ours kill but do their best not to be killed.

When they do it they want it seen, they want people to see and to know.Theirs killed knowing they would also die.

Both are horrifying. It is all the more horrible when I hear the administration's comment about the disregard for life and killing of innocents. It rings so hollow, we have no moral standing left, none at all.

Has a large nation ever fallen this far this fast?


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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:50 PM
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22. Because the repukes took a pounding AGAIN and usually this stuff...
happens right after Bush takes a dive.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:59 PM
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23. So you think Rove was behind it?
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:07 AM
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24. I believe a wedding
has nothing to do with what he or she did. They are targets and that's it nothing more. If a person is sick enough to do this kind of thing I don't think they care what is going on.
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pox americana Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:40 AM
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27. Well, the "prime suspect" is supposed to be Al-Zarqawi,
who happens to be a top anti-occupation activist in Iraq, so let's just say it's very convenient for the U.S.

Oh, why do they hate us so?
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moddemny Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:35 AM
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33. "Because the repukes took a pounding AGAIN and usually this stuff..."
.....happens right after Bush takes a dive"


So you are saying somehow Republicans planned this directly and it is not simply as a consequence of the overall violence in the region?
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aaronnyc Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:45 AM
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36. This stuff has been happening consistently for almost 3 years
There is a suicide bombing almost every day in Iraq - I don't see how you can suggest that there is a correlation between attacks on civilians in Iraq and problems for Bush in the U.S.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:37 AM
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26. because he's friggin insane
and has been told, by maipulative assholes, that this is a good thing to do.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:41 AM
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28. I'm paraphrasing but someone said the tension between islamofascist
youth being told they have to reject the modern ways and live in the middle ages - and the tension of that while they live in fact in very modern worlds ... gets let out by blowing themselves up.

Was in Gynne Dwyers book.
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Dunedain Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:14 AM
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29. To save himself forty years of nagging misery?
No, I agree, senseless.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:36 AM
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31. Rimshot!
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moddemny Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:31 AM
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32. Because he is a low life........
....piece of sh*t.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:35 AM
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34. Religious extremism is the world's most dangerous truth
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 06:35 AM by WilliamPitt
And it is growing.

In more than one major religion.

This is a war of religious extremists.

Ours send in soldiers to raze Fallujah to the ground.

Theirs blow up weddings.

Which justifies our actions.

Which justifies theirs.

It's a perfect circle.

Hey, you asked.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:41 AM
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35. I See A Couple Of DUers Took This Thread As An Opportunity To Make Jokes
Can they please tell the rest of us what's so funny about the carnage?


Children...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:14 AM
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37. Letting go of the detonator button
One of the most disgusting sort of detonation, is when people
indulge in being excessively ignorant, blowing their hatred all
over the room, in little pieces, hoping that they've destroyed all
the intelligence greater than themselves.

And what contempt or racism is this, to believe that by killing yourself,
you've taken political direct action against tyranny, in a way that
puts fear in to its heart, random terror, the sort of thing that eats
away at liberty and goodwill; a khumher rouge tactic.

It seems the skill we lack is restraint, restraint from
blowing themselves up. So maybe the crime is believing in direct
action as much as the pentagon does. And for all the morals painted,
once someone does something like that, there "are" no morals. Just
lots of dead people, lives changed, and souls reincarnated elsewhere.

Even more spooky are cluster bombs where 10000 weddings are attacked
simultaneously, and the bombers liberate all those with romantic
illusions thereby alleviating the world of much suffering and
country music.

What if the culture you were in was so evil, so wrong, that every
single impulse you had was to excape, but on realizing that this
global caliphate is "your" destiny, then to create it, all people
must grow to accept democracy.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:51 PM
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39. Because they feel hopeless and rage controls their thought process.
IMO, the rage and hopelessness come from a variety of sources; one being totally brainwashed into blowing oneself up.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:53 PM
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40. Don't forget that the US military bombed a wedding reception in Iraq.
It's horrible no matter who does it - or with what weapons.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:53 PM
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41. They believe it's the only way of defending their way of life against,....
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 05:55 PM by Just Me
,...tyrannical imperialism/colonialism. Their way of life and their resources were attacked first, in their view, and they are compelled to exercise extreme defensive measures.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:56 PM
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42. Because he doesn't have a B-1 Stealth Bomber n/t
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 05:57 PM by NNN0LHI
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