New York Times Editorial Board has truly 'taken the gloves off'

[understandinglife]

If Republican leaders in Congress want to open investigations that serve the public, they can back an independent investigation into the origins of the Abu Ghraib scandal - and they can take the handcuffs off the unfinished Senate investigation into the prewar intelligence on Iraq.

This new political drama makes an excellent case study for why it is so vital for news organizations to be able to give the public information that the government wants to suppress for political reasons. That sort of journalism depends on maintaining the confidentiality of sources. For that reason, we generally oppose leak investigations.

This page did support the independent investigation into the Valerie Wilson case - rather than having the administration continue its own inquiry - not to stop leaks, but to determine whether administration officials had abused their power and possibly endangered Mrs. Wilson, an undercover C.I.A. officer, to undermine her husband, Joseph Wilson. He had drawn the White House's ire by disputing one of the central and ultimately false justifications for war with Iraq: that there was an active effort by Saddam Hussein to get parts for a nuclear bomb.

The current talk of leaks is utterly different. The Post article provided powerful details that expand what we know about the camps and the abhorrent practices there. The administration and its allies in Congress want to suppress this information merely because they don't want a full accounting of how American soldiers and intelligence agents have been turned into torturers, and because the administration wants to go on abusing prisoners.

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The truth is that the damage is caused by the administration's underlying acts and policies, not by the news media's disclosures, which serve only to hold officials accountable for their actions. It is the secret camps themselves and the abuse and torture of prisoners that smear America's image and jeopardize Americans serving their country, not newspaper articles.

More at the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/10/opinion/10thur1.html?pagewanted=print

Finally.

The enema that helped them expel Judith Miller, seems to have cleansed their collective consciousness, as well.


Peace.

[BattyDem]

1. Miller seriously damaged their reputation and credibility

It looks like they're trying to redeem themselves, which works for us. :evilgrin:

[understandinglife]

2. "It looks like they're trying to redeem themselves, which works for us."

IN_DEED :toast:


Peace.

[0rganism]

3. Fuck 'em until they can take responsibility for their warmongering

When they come forward to ask forgiveness for their inexcusable lapses in journalistic ethics, nevermind the human decency, I will reconsider their editorial position.

[upi402]

4. and corporatism too.

effem

[WCGreen]

8. Here here.. I agree whole heartedly....

[understandinglife]

10. I would like to see the owners of the NYTimes answer the World Tribunal ..

... On Iraq - specifically:

F. Against the Major Corporate Media

1. Disseminating the deliberate falsehoods spread by the governments of the US and the UK and failing to adequately investigate this misinformation, even in the face of abundant evidence to the contrary. Among the corporate media houses that bear special responsibility for promoting the lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, we name the New York Times, in particular their reporter Judith Miller, whose main source was on the payroll of the CIA. We also name Fox News, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, the BBC and ITN. This list also includes but is not limited to, The Express, The Sun, The Observer and Washington Post.

Link:

http://www.worldtribunal.org/main/?b=91

I've posted on this issue more than once at DU and I've sent my posts to the NYT Public Editor and others and I will continue doing so until the Board of Directors of the Times Companies respond, convincingly.


Peace.

[Richard Steele]

12. Damn right! Too late to start washing the blood off their hands NOW!

[kster]

25. Never to late, if it stops the troops from being killed

in Iraq, I know this article won't do that but, we have to get these bastards in the media to start doing their job from now on, and this article is the path that may save lives.

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. Yes!

:thumbsup:

[Guaranteed]

61. They have apologized, IIRC. nt

[0rganism]

62. I must've missed it, somehow.

I didn't miss the apology for Jason "makin' shit up over here" Blair, but perhaps that was treated as a pressworthy media event?

[understandinglife]

5. Herbert: "From the perspective of the troops, he said, the situation ...

... in Iraq is perverse.

An Army Ready to Snap

By BOB HERBERT

November 10, 2005

Have you heard what's been happening to the military?

Most people have heard that more than 2,000 American G.I.'s have been killed in the nonstop meat grinder of Iraq. There was a flurry of stories about that grim milestone in the last week of October. (Since then the official number of American deaths has jumped to at least 2,055, and it continues to climb steadily.)

More than 15,000 have been wounded in action.

But the problems of the military go far beyond the casualty figures coming out of the war zone. The Army, for example, has been stretched so taut since the Sept. 11 attacks, especially by the fiasco in Iraq, that it's become like a rubber band that may snap at any moment.

<clip>

Link:

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/11/10/opinion/10herbert.html?pagewanted=print

Just a simple reminder to our fellow Americans that launching illegal wars of aggression and perpetrating violations of every conceivable law and ethic regarding the treatment of other human beings sorta strangles every vital organ of a Nation.


Peace.

[vogonity]

23. This is a good point

Does anyone have any more info on currently what morale is like for the soldiers in Iraq? It has got to be beyond horrible for them over there. I really want to know how much the current scandals about misuse of intelligence are affecting morale over there.

[fearnobush]

6. The times owes Democracy much more than a little Op-Ed bit.

The can redeem however difficult it may be. All they have to do is report the truth with no spin or cowering to complaints from Chaney and Rove. They must bury Rove and the WHIG Neo-Conns, only then will they redeem.

[understandinglife]

11. Agreed. Please see my comment # 10.

Thank you.


Peace.

[jmatthan]

7. It is not Miller alone

The New York Times is guilty of war crimes.

http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com/2005/10/torch-of-death.html

[Captain Hilts]

9. Keller's got to go. The ship ran aground on his watch. nt

[understandinglife]

13. Check comment # 10. No argument from me that the NYT is complicit.

I've been posting that for months, here at DU.

But, the Editorials of the past few days signal a distinct shift, and we need to both leverage that fact and press the Times Companies BoD to make significant management changes at the NYT -- Sulzberger Jr., and Keller must resign (if you do a search at DU, you'll find I've been pushing that issue for awhile, as well).

Thank you.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

14. MSNBC/WSJ -- 57% of Americans say Bush deliberately misled the nation into

... WAR.

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/57-of-americans-say-bush-deliberately-misled/#comments

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9981177

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1914028&mesg_id=1914028

Leverage that.


Peace.

[Beam Me Up]

15. I do not trust them. That is the message I want the NYT to get.

They have lost all credibility with me--as, indeed, has ALL of the CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA. It isn't just the lead up to the war. Yes, that is part of it. They tried to make me believe in a lie. I didn't BECAUSE I have too many different sources of RESPECTABLE information outside of the Corporate "main stream". Democratic Underground is one of them: A behive of cross-fertilized information going through constant checks and revisions as new information accrues.

Now we ALL know that the NYT lied. Even they know it. They won't come right out and say it, of course, because they remain HYPOCRITS. They may very well NOW turn all their eire upon the Bush Cabal and the neoCONS and try to get us to believe that THEY SERVE OUR INTERESTS AND NOT THOSE OF THEIR CORPORATE OWNERS.

It is another lie I will NEVER believe. EVER. If Bush goes, it will be because they now want him gone as much as we do. They put him in power, just like they put Sadam in power, and kept him there because that is what they wanted too at one time.

You understand what this means, Mr/Ms NEW YORK TIMES?

I know you do. You are beginning to learn that WITHOUT CREDIBILITY structures of social power and influence COLAPSE.

The world is changing very rapidly. The Old Republic is dead. You helped kill it and keep the corpse tarted up so, hopefully, no one would notice.

Meanwhile, all that is GOOD in humanity, all that is GOOD in the human species, all that is GOOD in the United States is moving on without you.

Get it: WE DO NOT NEED YOU ANY MORE. We're now going to shape our OWN perception of reality--and you are not invited.

[understandinglife]

16. Most excellent. As you and others likely suspect, my plan is to send ...

... the URL for this thread to both the NYT Public Editor and every member of the Board of Directors of the Times Companies.

Please do the same.

"We the People ... ARE NOW THE MEDIA" and that is just the way it is going to be from now until the end of planet earth.


Peace.

[Beam Me Up]

20. Excellent idea. And one thing I am most certainly NOT doing: BUYING

anything of the NYT's.

I am not buying the bullshit reality they are selling.

[flyarm]

33. as much as i want to read the op eds..i will not give the murderers at nyt

a dime of my money..i do not want to have my money supporting murderers!!..let them hold out their bloody hands and beg like the beggars who are starving on our streets..., and homeless and jobless.. this war has created for all the services robbed our citizens ...for their damn war of lies!!

i wish for them to have nightmares every day of their lives for the rest of their lives of the poor people they helped our government cover with flesh eating chemicals...i hope they have to see it in every waking moment they have and may they never have rest or peace of mind for all the lives they have destroyed worldwide ..with their filthy lies!!

and thats how i feel about every single person at nyt..the editors knew damn well that judith was lying and writing propaganda..and if they even attempt to say they didn't then they are too incompetent to be on the job...for any newspaper in this country let alone the paper of record...

they not only are responsible and culpable for judith millers lies and deceit of this nation..they might as well have spit on my constitution and their obligation to my constitution..and they can all go rot in hell as far as i am concerned!

i surely hope they have to pay in eternity for the crimes against humanity they helped perpetrate..

may they suffer in their own flesh..and be tortured for the very torture they are responsible for propagandizing us into!!

do i sound angry..well i am..nyt also lied about 9/11 ..they lied up their assholes...and those were my co-workers...i will never forgive them..never!!

fly

[Al-CIAda]

54. Yes, what about the 9/11 COVERUP of which they are also party to, NYT? nt

[jokerman93]

45. Hear! Hear!

"Get it: WE DO NOT NEED YOU ANY MORE. We're now going to shape our OWN perception of reality--and you are not invited."

There's more of us than there are of them. It's our world; our future, and we can still shape it any way we choose.

[Beam Me Up]

48. Yep. "The Battle for America has just begun."

:thumbsup:

[jokerman93]

50. Indeed

:toast:

[Beam Me Up]

49. dupe

[Poet Lariat]

63. Lies and the lying liars who tell them.....

Sin has many tools,
but a lie is the handle which fits them all.

-- Oliver Wendell Holmes

[johnfunk]

17. The NY Times is still full of crap, though...

... The truth is that the damage is caused by the administration's underlying acts and policies, not by the news media's disclosures....

Oh, yeah, right, like Judy "Libbyfluffer" Miller had no effect. Like the NY Times is blameless.

What utter, deceptive Bushit.

[understandinglife]

18. No argument. And, thank you for the "Just Another Right-Wing Rag"

Just the type of feedback I want the NYT Public Editor and Times Companies BoD members to see when they receive the URL to this thread.


Peace.

[johnfunk]

40. That "Right Wing Rag" bumper sticker is on my Prius

I wonder if anyone at the Izvestia-on-the-Hudson has seen it yet.

[Fozzledick]

19. Wake me up when they report in detail how b*sh stole both elections

Plus how and why they collaborated to help him get away with it.

Until then they're still part of the cover up.:grr:

[Beam Me Up]

24. A Tapestry of Lies woven to bewitch the masses--even and perhaps

especially the 'educated' among us. We give them our power and attention only to the extent, however, that they retain some vestige of credibility.

That is now gone, and it isn't just me.

[Jim Sagle]

28. And don't forget 8 STINKING years reporting the non-scandal that was

Whitewater.

[understandinglife]

30. If only I could, but then I would truly be brain-dead. However, it is ...

... interesting how very few folk can actually tell you what "Whitewater" was -- even after all the yapping that Richard Mellon Scaife et al., financed.


Peace.

[Mme. Defarge]

53. Straight on!

[Kahuna]

36. Here here, Fozzledick!

:toast:

[Straight Shooter]

46. In particular, where is the remorse about backing away from "the bulge"?

In 2000, they failed to cover the story adequately of the thugs who stopped the counting of the votes. Except for the fact that insiders at The New York Times knew how destructive the bush family and its associates are, one can almost overlook that by granting them the benefit of the doubt that they perhaps hoped george w. bush would somehow rise above it and actually do some good for this country. His moment in the sun, so to speak.

Four years later, any reasonable and prudent person would evaluate and come to the conclusion that george w. bush is a walking talking disaster for the country. Yet, despite all the evidence, The NYT still decides to pull a story about the "bulge" on bush's back during the debate because they fear it will affect the election.

Imagine that, being afraid that discussing deception on the part of bush might affect the election. Now they're trying to come clean by slowly revealing how deep the deception goes in the administration? Please, spare me.

[understandinglife]

21. Jane Hamsher: "It's the Judy Miller Show!"

Now that Judy has said goodbye to her beloved cohorts at the NYT, she flips one to us, her faithful readers, on her blog.

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Name one. Just one. One person at the Times who was so offended by your betrayal of the First Amendment that you could no longer remain there, Judy. Just one. That's all I want, just one name.

<clip>

You mean all that Indiana Jones shit from Bagdad was not intended as self-aggrandizing camp and melodrama? Wow, to think that was an accident. The mind reels at what you could achieve if you actually tried, Judy.

<clip>

More at the link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/11/its-judy-miller-show.html

I fully agree with the World Tribunal on Iraq - Ms. Miller stands charged as a war criminal. Get a lawyer, Judith, a really, really good one.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

29. Arianna Huffington: "The truth is it doesn’t matter anymore where ...

... something appears. What matters is how newsworthy and interesting it is (unless of course, it’s hidden behind Sulzberger’s beloved TimesSelect).

That this musty debate was even a part of the negotiations shows that neither Miller nor the Times understands the power of the blogosphere and the sea change that has occurred in journalism.

It’s the one thing you’d think they would have learned from this whole pathetic affair.

More at the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/dear-news-cycle-thank-yo_b_10399.html

As I said in comment # 18 , "'We the People ... ARE NOW THE MEDIA'" and that is just the way it is going to be from now until the end of planet earth."



Peace.

[understandinglife]

51. "The Security Clearance That Never Was: Another Canard in Judith Miller's

... Long Trail of Deception

by William E. Jackson, Jr. on November 10, 2005

In New York Times public editor Byron Calame's October 23 column on "The Miller Mess: Lingering Issues Among the Answers," he flagged a troubling ethical issue that "I haven't yet been able to nail down." He was referring to Judy Miller's claim to have held a government security clearance--"something that could restrict her ability to share with editors the information she gathers." But he missed the point.

<clip>

Why, men and women with a journalistic moral compass may ask--Jay Rosen, "Will the Times Ever Tell Us If Judy Miller Had a Security Clearance?"--does the leadership of The Times not try to get to the bottom of the serious ethical issue behind the security clearance claim? I do not think that editor Keller sees any particular need to come clean on this issue and inform Calame. He has a way of not being concerned about bad publicity or mistrust, if he does not regard the matter as a major issue. In any case, what would he say? Seelye and Schmitt reported that she was not claiming anything beyond the normal non-disclosure agreement, with minor modifications. Would Keller call Raines and ask if he had been aware of anything approaching a Pentagon-issued security clearance for Miller that would have required a background investigation?

I assume that her editors were not aware of her having anything like a security clearance, other than "embed" arrangements, because she had none. As for editors Raines and Boyd and publisher Sulzberger getting her "most secret" reports from Iraq, they may have been under such an illusion. But remember that her copy was subject to censorship; AND much of her WMD information was wrong! Moreover, both her PAO "minder" and the commander of one of the WMD teams on the scene told me flatly (in late summer 2003) that she had no SECRET-level security clearance. It was puffery, or embroidery; throwing her weight around by invoking Pentagon authority.

The mystery has been solved. This was the security clearance that never was -- a canard.

More at the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-e-jackson-jr/the-security-clearance-th_b_10436.html

Peace.

[understandinglife]

22. PILE ON, DU. This one is going straight to the NYT Public Editor & ...

... Times Companies Board of Directors.

I'd like to send them a URL to a thread with several hundreds of comments from the reality-based segment of the American community.


Peace.

[Bozita]

35. I'll pile on if assured that Judy Miller will be scrubbing toilets

If the Times gives her anything more than the polish on a well-shined wingtip, they need a better law firm.

[understandinglife]

60. URL link to this thread emailed to Calame with the suggestion that ...

... he read each of these comments carefully and share with the NYTimes Company's BoD.


Peace.

[umtalal]

26. Keller looked away as Miller did the nasty. Keller is as much part of this

as she is. He wanted this war as much as she did. He is so arrogant and pompus and the US might has to rule kind of jerk.

I will never look at that rag again.

[understandinglife]

27. For the record:

February 7, 2003 - VIPS: "consequences are likely to be catastrophic": Does Anyone Making Decisions at "The NYTimes" Bother to Connect Dots?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4457345

Why does anyone believe anything Judy, Arthur & Bill say. If I don't ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4936438

"Having caught Miller committing perjury, Fitzgerald is now in a position ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5018412

Amer Journalism Review calls out the New York Times over Miller

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5033545

"The Bottom Line: Judith Miller continued to carry WMD water for ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5070621

Oh, Judy, maybe it was John Poindexter who told you the name ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5085231

J. Moore, author of "Bush's Brain" proclaims - "Most Important Criminal ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5109514

Billmon: "To me, the New Pravda's role in the Iraq debacle resembles...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5146502

Many of us have awaited Ms Dowd to write about Judith Miller. She has.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5131231

At a moment like this, why not state the obvious. Bush Lied. Cheney Lied.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5158095

NY Times editorial board labels Cheney "doomsayer in chief" and more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5239700

Steve Clemons: CIA Leak Investigation and How America was ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5292221

The 'old grey lady' needs to make a decision - die or tell the truth -- if the latter, start with a big, bold font header -- "WE LIED, OUR FELLOW CITIZENS DIED: WE APOLOGIZE & WE WILL NOT EVER DO IT AGAIN"


Peace.

[umtalal]

64. The DU has been at this for all the time. '03 told the time to get lost!!!

[Swamp Rat]

31. I will NOT buy another NY Times newspaper until AFTER all the

Intergalactic Fascist Lizards have been cleared out.

In the meantime, I have convinced at least a dozen people to stop their subscriptions with the NY Times. :)

[dennisnyc]

58. agreed, but today was such a pleasure to read Miller's resignation letter!

The smug self-confidence steeped in imperial ass-kissing was priceless!

[Crazy Guggenheim]

32. Snore ............

[DoYouEverWonder]

37. As usual, too little too late

When the NYT's starts to tell the truth about their rule in supporting BushCo and building their case for the illegal invasion of Iraq, maybe then I'll start to pay them some mind again. In the meantime, about the only use I have for their rag is to wrap my mullet in it.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

38. it is still good for fish and chips

dead, rotting fish and bull chips.

I find that I do not miss the NYT, except for the crossword

[philly_bob]

39. Doing without the NYTimes

I miss the Sunday Book Review.

[dennisnyc]

56. try the New York Review of Books instead,

much more interesting!

http://www.nybooks.com/

[philly_bob]

66. Thanks Dennis. I have...

...And it is better.

I am one among many. As angry NYT-addicted consumers sadly cancel their subscriptions, they find other ways to get info.

The Sulzberger scion, like the Bush scion, blew it big time.

[philly_bob]

67. Judith Miller's husband runs NYRB

I just read that the publisher of the New York Times Review of Books is Jason Epstein, the husband of NYT misreporter Judith Miller. They were married in 1993.

<http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/index4.html>

All that is solid melts away.

The Neocons have poisoned the well.

# edited for typo

[symbolman]

41. Dear NY Times

if you have ANY credibility left or wish to rebuild it you will start with acknowledging the Power of the Blogosphere, the New Media based on PASSION for TRUTH.

There are sites like HERE and others like MINE http://www.takebackthemedia.com where I've spent over a YEAR RESEARCHING the Plame outing, even going so far as to create a FULL and Definitive Chronology of the Outing of Plame, called, "Rove's War" which if YOU wanted to know or promote the truth you would INVESTIGATE MY CLAIMS - ALL vetted, NO Tin Foil hat stuff, and work that makes Judas Miller look like a Crayon Thief in Gradeschool..

Give me MY 15 minutes of fame, do a story on MY Investigative Reporting and MAKING A FILM about it, ONE PERSON, no TEAM, no SINGLE LIAR like MILLER - not a person that demands 6 figures to SLIDE out the door leaving a trail of SLIME.

I did the work for NOTHING, for like I said a PASSION FOR THE TRUTH.

SHOW that passion - Talk about Takebackthemedia.com, and the DemocraticUnderground, 80,000 INVESTIGATORS who work for NO PAY - you couldn't even AFFORD a STAFF like that, yet you make NO USE Of it.

YOu are like my TV, screaming Bullshit at me all day long, about things I neither want nor need, or CRAP that just annoys me, but most of all, mind numbing false SPECULATION with NO ONE held responsible for their statements.. "A SENIOR OFFICIAL SAID..", yadda yadda..

You can ALWAYS tell them the right wing is in power, because if you go through an article and scratch out all the "SOURCES" you will find that there is NO STORY, because there are NO SOURCES.

Until you make Sources NAME themselves and Take responsibility for their statements then the Statements are MEANINGLESS.

But I bet you know that - don't come begging to us with all this backpeddalling - just like the Republicans who the day after they got SLAUGHTERED at the polls are all of a sudden NOT going to DESTROY the Wildlife Refuge in Alaska, NOT going to saddle us with MORE Soviet Style "Patriot" acts, etc, etc..

and now YOU are telling something resembling the TRUTH.

Make me feel like Tina Turner, waiting for IKE to show up with flowers and a perfume and beg for me to take YOU back, after you've beaten the SHIT out of the American Public, and KILLED their sons and daughters.

Tell the truth or go to hell, we don't need your anymore - watch with horror and Knight Ridder goes down the tubes, because YOU are NEXT - we'll be reading the news on our Laptops on the John on Sunday Mornings and NOT YOUR PAPER.

Looks like I won't have to TAKEBACKTHEMEDIA.. it's going to come CRAWLING BACK TO ME.

[Tuesday_Morning]

42. The other day my husband said...

...he'd really like us to subscribe to the NYT again. (I'd let our subscription lapse a while back) He missed it and it'd be good to get our teenagers reading it.

I told him no way, no how. We're both disppointed but more than that, we're both furious about what the NYT did and didn't do. They've been Enablers with a capital 'E' of many of the BFEE crimes.

[slaveplanet]

43. All the Kings horses

& all the kings mens

can never put back together

The grey lady again....





NYT yur DONE

Buh bye

[NNN0LHI]

44. All those BS front page WMD stories got there by mere coincidence n/t

[RedEarth]

47. I'll take it.... even though they're late, it's certainly better than

nothing....which is what many newspapers have done.

[understandinglife]

52. "How deeply was Bill Keller in the sway of Wolfowitz & Co.?"

<clip>

And in that sense, Bill Keller has his own "entanglement" problem. Keller's entanglement was with Paul Wolfowitz, the then-deputy defense secretary and so-called "chief architect" of the 2003 Iraq invasion.

Keller's apparently chummy relationship with Wolfowitz explains a lot. It certainly explains the convuluted pieces that Keller -- who was both a columnist and author of magazine pieces for the Times in 2002 and 2003, before he was called in to replace the ousted Howell Raines -- wrote offering his support for the military action before it was launched. He called himself a reluctant “hawk” on the war at that time.

How deeply was Bill Keller in the sway of Wolfowitz & Co.? Read this small piece of Keller's 8,139-word profile of the assistant defense secretary from Sept. 22, 2002, called -- believe it or not -- "The Sunshine Warrior" (via Nexis):

Much more at the link:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/shoptalk_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001476357

From The Editor Who Cried 'Wolfowitz' by Will Bunch on November 9, 2005

Peace.

[indepat]

55. Their collective consciousnesses and bowels to boot

[mom cat]

57. What about an independent investigation of the NYT?

What about their role in hyping the war. This is a lot bigger than Judith Miller.

[understandinglife]

59. Sulzberger provides more evidence he does not get it:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006984.php


Peace.

[NuttyFluffers]

65. you mean now they do not like the way they made their own beds?

hmm... too bad. gotta lie in it now. their neglegence caused several thousands to rest in their final beds 6 feet under.

NYT (new york times)? KMA (kiss my ass)!