TX neocon: "Gee whiz, our divorce rate's higher than New York,"

[rainbow4321]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/111005dntexprop2.7a85398.html


Texas social conservatives want to translate their resounding victory on a gay marriage ban into broader results: reducing the state's divorce rate and passing a nationwide amendment to prevent same-sex unions.

Rep. Warren Chisum, who wrote the amendment, Proposition 2, endorsed by Texas voters by a ratio of more than 3-1, said Wednesday that it's too easy for spouses to split up. The state should consider repealing or modifying its no-fault divorce law, the Pampa Republican said.

"Gee whiz, our divorce rate's higher than New York," Mr. Chisum said. He proposed that between now and their next regular session in 2007, lawmakers study ways "to make marriage thrive more in our state."

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She endorsed Mr. Chisum's call for a review of the no-fault divorce law, which took effect in 1974. "It is a system that is broken," Ms. Adams said. "Men, women and children are getting hurt with that current law, with revolving-door marriages."

[Debau2005]

1. Well that should be easy now.

Since no one is legally married in Texas anymore...:rofl:

[jsamuel]

2. so instead of looking at New York's laws and seeing what they are doing

right, you just make the problem worse?

bright

very bright

[texastoast]

3. Oh, boy. Let's go back to the spouse-beating days

And the days where men owned women. Divorce was not an option. A separate checking account was not an option.

Fucking nutjobs.:mad:

[CardInAustin]

5. No no....this is good....

This is very good. Let them go. Let them pull this cr*p. Let the public see these people for what they really are.

Right now much of the public sees them messing with terrorist suspects, gays, illegal immigrants. Right or wrong, they probably don't feel a big connection with these people. But divorce....now you are messing with fire. Once they start down that path towards messing with YOUR marriage, YOUR divorce, YOUR books, YOUR rights (which is their ultimate goal), many people who blindly vote Republican will change their minds.

I wish they would seek to outlaw divorce, outlaw sex, and go burn down the Dallas free public library.

[texastoast]

17. Certainly fine with me since it doesn't affect ME at all

These people are absolutely the same as fundamental Islamic crazies--the difference is they are cloaked in "Christian" sheepleskin.

These are the same people for whom Queen Victoria was a champion--no ankles showing or your are a complete slut. Divorce? I don't think so. Infidelity? Keep it in the closet. Sexual abuse of children from rampant adult sexual repression? Why, yes, it's the order of the day.

You are right. Let them have at it.

[lukasahero]

6. That's where we're going.

And it seems we're in a hurry to see who can get there first.

[seabeyond]

4. bring it on. now THIS will effect those baptists

kids went to a baptist private school. was just amazed the number of second and third marriages as they bashed homosexuality, i bashed divorce. paul and leviticus? lol lol

i say go after that divorce. gonna go after gays. damn right. watch people think twice about religion getting involved in law making

[Lexingtonian]

7. Go ahead, Mr. Chisum....

The resulting increase in the spousal and child murder rate is going to go down as a typical victory for 'family values', I'm sure.

[lukasahero]

10. I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about those wimen and chil'ren

They should just learn to obey and they wouldn't have to be beaten.

[Ilsa]

8. Let's blame it on the law, not the fundamentalist culture of

inflexibility and steadfastness in the face of absurdity.

My sister was telling me today of a neighbor (here in TX) who is very fundamentalist, but who was estranged from his husband over an act of infidelity on his part. She seemed to be under the impression that she had to divorce him. My sister said, of course not; get some counselling and figure out what you need to do. And consider forgiveness.

Why are these people the last to exercise forgiveness? I see it all around me here in TX.

[Lexingtonian]

13. People taught to be 'righteous'

have their world colored increasingly black and white as their 'righteousness' grows.

That disables negotiation because it means one side is right and the other completely wrong. And 'righteous' people are not in fact terribly humble, either- the dogmatism is an excellent ego exertion and protection mechanism; an awful lot of ego tends to pile up behind it.

Infidelity is particularly difficult to deal with via this psychological style. On its face infidelity is black and white. As a reality, infidelity is about the emotional inadequacy and insensitivity and estrangement that comes so easily in a relationship defined by such dogmatism.

[Norquist Nemesis]

16. I'm surprised they didn't pin it on Clinton! n/t

[rainbow4321]

18. Til they realize that TX divorce rate dropped during Clinton years

Amazing what an era of peace and prosperity can do for a family.

Found this on TX DHS stat page:
http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/CHS/VSTAT/latest/nnuptil.shtm

[jackster]

9. don't these idiots

understand that no-fault divorce only exposed a greater problem - EDUCATION?????!!!!!!?????

Maybe that's why Mass, NY, CT etc have lower divorce rates you goons. OUR SCHOOLS ARE BETTER THAN YOURS!

[texastoast]

20. I'm happy for you

but I don't think that is that big of a brag. Texas schools are PATHETIC!!

[Double T]

11. I think it is a great idea to keep couples that don't like each other.....

and no longer have anything in common (except possibly children) to stay together so they can yell, scream, drive each other crazy and destroy each others lives. Since when is perpetuating domestic violence a good thing?? If it is over, it is over, even deep in the heartache of Texas.

[formerrepuke]

12. Maybe they could look at the cultural pressure to marry young

in some parts of the country.. Some places, if you're 30ish (or, God forbid, even older) and not married.. you're an outcast.. in other areas, nobody cares. People shouldn't be made to feel that marriage is a requirement.

[scarlett1]

14. Or over 30 and not married

you must be GAY.

[Ganja Ninja]

15. "Gee whiz, our divorce rate's higher than New York,"

Wouldn't have anything to do with the shitty pay scale or lack of benefits that have people constantly living on the edge of disaster only a paycheck away from homelessness and destitution would it?
Naaa! Couldn't be.:sarcasm:

[sinkingfeeling]

19. It's not only their divorce rate that is higher. A year or so ago, I

wrote a seething reply to a local Baptist minister (mega-church) who was preaching about 'saving marriage' from the gays. I asked him if he could explain why the states with the highest percentages of Southern Baptists had the highest divorce rates, more domestic violence, more child abuse, and more sexual perversion. (Also, more drunks and of course, meth users).


Would you believe he didn't respond to my letter?

[Jane Austin]

21. I get your meaning, but this guy is a "social conservative" not a

neocon.

[Walt Starr]

22. Typical Repugnant, they have it bass ackwards

If you want to lower the rate of divorce, you make it more difficult to get married in the first place.

It's not the revolving door policy on divorce that's the problem, it's the revolving door policy on marriage licenses.

Required education before issuance of a marriage license is a damned good start.