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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:52 PM
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Veterans Day Outrage: Conservatives End 55-Year-Old Practice of Hearings.

Veterans Day Outrage: Conservatives End 55-Year-Old Practice of Hearings for Vet Groups

On Tuesday - three days before Veterans Day - House Veterans' Affairs Committee Chairman Steve Buyer (R-IN) announced that for the first time in at least 55 years, "veterans service organizations will no longer have the opportunity to present testimony before a joint hearing of the House and Senate Veterans' Affairs Committees."



Remember that Buyer was handpicked by criminally-indicted Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) to replace former veterans committee chairman Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ), who had been extremely vocal about the consistent underfunding of veterans causes.

The Disabled American Veterans, the "official voice of America's service-connected disabled veterans," just issued a scathing release calling the move "an insult to all who have fought, sacrificed and died to defend the Constitution." The timing, they said, "could not have been worse."

Read the full release here. (More from The Hill - see below.)

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/10/veterans-day-outrage/





department of veterans affairs
Vets lash out at House over budget moves
By Elana Schor

As Veterans Day approaches and the war in Iraq rages on, veterans-service organizations are criticizing House leaders for ending a 55-year legislative tradition, and fearing that Congress will not fill next year’s budget gap for veterans healthcare.

Senators erupted in frustration earlier this year after Veterans Affairs (VA) Secretary Jim Nicholson conceded that the department was more than $1 billion short for 2005. They will get a chance to vent again today when Nicholson appears before the Veterans Affairs Committee at a hearing on VA hospitals damaged by Hurricane Katrina.
But lobbyists for veterans groups are most incensed at Rep. Steve Buyer (R-Ind.), the new House Veterans Affairs Committee chairman, who announced Tuesday that the groups would no longer have the opportunity to make legislative recommendations at joint House-Senate hearings.

-snip-
The lobbyists dismissed Buyer's explanation that the earlier hearings would allow their groups greater influence on the VA's annual budget. The chairman, the lobbyists charge, is seeking to avoid the public-relations headache of having disappointed veterans groups repeatedly blasting the White House budget.

"Some people don't want to be criticized for being deficient," said Richard Fuller, legislative director for Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA). "What they want to do is get rid of these (joint) legislative presentations because they have become, unfortunately now in the climate on Capitol Hill, very partisan."

http://www.thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/TheExecutive/111005_veteran.html



Details of how the previous House Republican Chair of the Veterans Affairs Committee got thrown not only out of his position as chair but off the committee itself.


No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Here's how House Republicans support the troops in a time of war: by demoting and embarrassing the leading advocate for soldiers on Capitol Hill.

The crackdown on GOP moderates continued last week as the House leadership ousted Representative Chris Smith as chairman of the Committee on Veterans Affairs for his tireless advocacy of veterans rights. Smith--like House Ethics Chairman Joel Hefley--did his job a little too well.

Smith served on the Vets Committee since arriving in Congress twenty-four years ago and became its chairman in 2001, angering the GOP top brass with his opposition to stingy VA budgets and ability to pass bills across bipartisan lines. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay--who wanted Smith punished two years ago--got his wish when House Speaker Dennis Hastert inserted GOP poodle Steve Buyer as Chairman and took the unprecedented step of throwing Smith off the Vets Committee. (Ironically, Smith is also a major figure in the anti-choice movement.)

Under a rule change adopted in 1995, Hastert can remove any committee chairman he deems incompetent or disloyal--now code words for bucking conservative conformity. During his four-year tenure, Smith authored twenty-two bills benefiting veterans: increasing veteran education funding through the GI bill by 46 percent, allocating $1 billion for homeless vets and $1.4 billion for expanded healthcare programs, and providing an extra $100 million in benefits for surviving spouses.

"It's almost as if no good deed goes unpunished," Smith told the Trenton Times. "In Baghdad, when somebody's bleeding, they're not Democrat or Republican. This is one committee that should have nothing to do with politics." Even Republican operative Bob Novak put fury to paper in a column yesterday. "The extraordinary purge buttressed the growing impression of arrogance as Republicans enter their second decade of power in the House," Novak wrote.

A top Republican aide justified his party's brutish behavior by praising Smith's replacement, the fiscally hawkish Buyer, as someone who'll be able to "tell the veterans groups, 'Enough is enough.'"

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/outrage?bid=13&pid=2117

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:56 PM
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1. If there is a veteran that still votes Repug,,,
they are crazy....
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:24 PM
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5. Crazier than a loon or a baboon
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bpj1962 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:01 PM
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9. Heres the kicker
Gordon Moy who is the Assistant Secretary for Veterans Affairs is a past president of the Paralyzed Veterans of America or PVA. PVA is one of the organization that testified on the hill every veterans day. My wife worked for the organization for 7 years and she attended several of these testimonials. Here is the kicker, prior to the Iraq war PVA membership was in serious decline. In order to be a member of PVA you have been in the service and if you suffer some sort of spinal injury then you can join. Your injury can occur after you leave the service. Mr. Moye was picked because of his injury as well as his republican loyalties. It really shows you what the repubs truly think of our troops.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:56 PM
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2. "Support the troops" huh? Right. My ass he supports the troops.
Happy F-ing Veteran's Day from the Chickenhawks
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:58 PM
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3. Bush and Republicans hate the Vets
Figures. Most of the Repubs got out of serving, anyway.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:11 PM
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4. Kick - keep this up
US Army vet 1970 - 1972
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:27 PM
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6. Support the troops my freakin ass!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:35 PM
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7. Kick for daddy...US Army 1968, Germany
:grr: :kick:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:40 PM
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15. and for my Da
83 year old WWII Navy Vet , Radarman, Phillipines. :patriot:


:kick:

dp
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:49 PM
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8. Need to get this out for EVERYONE to see!
Kicked and nominated
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:16 PM
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10. Wow, that last article is sickening...
I want to go put it under the windshields of every car that I see that has a "support the troops" or a Bush/Cheney '04 or a W '04 bumper sticker on it.
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RoadRunner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:01 PM
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11. Just when you think they can't get any worse
they do. Shame...
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:29 PM
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12. If the VFW and American Legion make a big stink about this...
I might actually look at their next solicitation to join, before I throw it away.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:06 PM
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13. Buyer is a total scumbag.
He's a veteran who made a big deal of that fact back in the Monicagate impeachment hearings. I can't remember what the connection was, but he made a lasting imperssion on me then.

Being from Indiana, his seat is probably safe, but I'd love to see him defeated next year.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:46 PM
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14. The neocons know...
that they will never lose another election
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johnnybaseball Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:58 PM
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34. Nice picture
Hahaha, very funny, but I would argue that the prices on that image are too low! A guy like Bush is probably spending $500 on his bong, and sniffing $1000/week or more ... I mean, his family is rich, and we KNOW he's making a ton of money off this "war" that he got us into ...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 08:15 PM
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16. Remarkable. They actually expect people to take
all this in stride?

What could they possibly be thinking?

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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 08:36 PM
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17. In my dad's honor...U.S. Army photographer...1945...So. Pacific, Japan
:patriot:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 11:39 PM
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18. kick
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:21 AM
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19. kick n/t
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:53 AM
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20. Maybe the Vets were REALLY going to UNLOAD in the hearings?
tomorrow? and the pukes found out about THAT, and quashed the traditional hearing? I bet anyhting that is WHY.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:03 AM
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21. The Pubs are trying to avoid the fight/protest/reaction by closing the
door...making it worse...do we trust the Pubs in decision making when they pul;l off stunts like thius....??

NO...we do not trust them...

The PUBs are NOT TRUST WORTHY...they LIE CHEAT STEAL
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:10 AM
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22. There will be a reaction and people are finally learning how
well the connies support the troops... :sarcasm:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:52 AM
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23. Yup, the stronger coffee is working...the new VISINE XXX89.55
has enabled the Politically Blind to "SEE" once more with clarity

What they see.. is what they don't want.

Do Not Trust the PUBs
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:02 AM
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24. my Tribal Govt Professor is a Vietnam Vet and he said that.....
he can't see why any veteran would support Bush ever. Then I told him about a friend of mine who is veteran as well and also from the same reservation I am. My friend -big John McCain fan- spews RW drivel all the time and I told my professor a comment I made to my friend, which was "An Indian voting for a Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders." I didn't really know what he'd say, I just kinda say wild stuff like that all the time, I'm not too shy about giving my opinion, however, my Professor just started laughing and goes, "That sounds about right." haha

GOP supports the troops, my ass. Psh.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 07:26 AM
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25. Kicking for my precious son
This is just another example of their sociopathic personalities.
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:59 AM
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26. Shrub hates vets
because they remind him of his desertion. He wants to be one so baaaaad but when the reality of life set in he ran away from his commitments and now he is nothing but a long walk on a short pier.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:09 AM
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27. Kick for my daughter
And kick for the Vets who had to fight for years and years to get benefits for agent orange exposure. Kick for the MIA. Kick for all Veterans, everywhere and anywhere.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:08 PM
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28. These thankless pigs have no shame.
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kincaid Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:27 PM
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29.  IRAQ by the numbers on this Veterans Day
2,057 dead


15,477 wounded(Many with injuries such as lost limbs and sight)

2,057 dead does not include the many who have committed suicide.

15,477 wounded does not include the many who will have mental problems.

We should respect all these men and women.

We owe them we owe them everything.

They fight, kill and die for America.

We owe it to them to make America something worth fighting for.

The infant mortality rate in the US is now the same as in Malaysia.

Blacks in Washington DC have a higher infant death rate than people in the Indian state of Kerala.

Congress has not did anything this year to help the hard working men and women of the nation.

It has mostly passed laws to protect gun companies and the like.

The rich get richer and the poor don't get a d@# thing is not the American way.


http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2005/11/iraq-by-numbers-on-this-veterans-day.html


http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:33 PM
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30. Kicked for my father-in-law.
Shot in Germany in WWII. Still walks with a limp -- one leg shorter than the other for sixty years. Almost died when another bullet grazed his head.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:46 PM
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31. Kicked and sent letter to local fish wrap too
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:30 PM
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32. Wonder how many of the outraged vets bought the swift boat story
hook line and sinker and stuck "Veterans for Chimpy" stickers on their vehicles. I don't want to hear so much as a peep out of any vet who voted for *. They knew his record. They knew he didn't give a damn about vets. And after more than a decade of crucifying Clinton for his lack of military service they chose AWOL over Kerry, 'coz thrity years ago Kerry dared to say something bad about war. No sympathy. They got what they paid for.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:00 PM
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35. Not this one!
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:38 AM
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36. You go!!!
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:34 PM
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33. Talk About This
Democrats need to point this out to veterans. Democrats should talk about how Tom Delay took a guy would cared about veterans issues off of this committee or at least took his chairmanship away from him. Then Delay went on and appointed a person who would stop veterans groups to speak before congress.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:42 AM
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37. Yes, the DEMS need to be out there on this one
:kick:
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