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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:13 PM
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Mary Mapes standing by live in the Situation Room
More to come...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:18 PM
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1. what happened
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:18 PM
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2. oh thank god
i was so worried i wasn't going to be able to invite the glowing warmth of the situation room into my home :):sarcasm:
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:20 PM
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3. Governator speaking now
Can't go any higher than the people. Have to listen carefully to the people. Like a movie, if one of the movies goes in the toilet you have to listen....Wow.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:22 PM
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5. Interesting....can you imagine Bush saying something like that....
NOT!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:20 PM
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4. Arnie on now
Groping for words.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:37 PM
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6. They just read the CBS statement. and Howie Kurtz is "standing by"
to confuse the situation....They may be "head to head" which is a lot better than Larry King's whorefest panel last night....
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:41 PM
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8. Wolf very concerned about the story coming during the "campaign"
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 04:44 PM by Gloria
once again, worried so much about protecting Bush...

Mapes said the whole mess bore the earmarks of the type of destruction campaign done by friends of Bush...

She's talking about proportional spacing and says she has evidence about that now...
She says Wolf's reporting was WRONG on the proportional spacing and what could done then and said that if he had spent more time researching he would find he did wrong reporting....

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:43 PM
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13. Blog reporter now tracing how the conservative blog quickly picked it up
Free Republic, then another, then another....
Mentions CBS' new blog Public Eye which addresses Mapes...
But no mention of any "liberal" blogs and the research done there...

But...at least she did point out how the conservative blogs picked it up. On the Free Republic site, the part about the typing was highlighted in yellow.....the incorrect claim.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:42 PM
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11. More on Memogate
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 04:44 PM by kpete
Wolfie Question - Don't you have to be 1000% sure

Mapes - I was sure
doc analysis questions were off point. Content was accurate. Other thing, first interview with Barnes who made the phone call (for Bush)

Wolfie - how troubling were the docs.

Howie - Mary Mapes failed to prove docs were authentic.
Story still has problems.

Mapes - I disagree. I do in my book get a number of new docs which prove that proportional spacing did exist back then. CBS chose to make this divisive and chose to stick with conservative bloggers.

Howie - Mary, your story has problems. Why did CBS rush this to air?

Mapes - I would have waited a week or so but the story would not have changed. Including the toxic reaction to the story. Campaign of destruction by Bush admin (typical).

Wolf - Conservative bloggers were successful.

My own quickly typed transcript of more or less the story as reported in the Situation Room.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:47 PM
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20. Yeah, she talked about the "toxicity" of the reaction...Wolf said
it was in the middle of the campaign, why not hold off till certain. She said it was a couple of months to go and if she had waited, wouldn't it have just exploded LATER? (Which Wolf was worried about)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:40 PM
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7. Taking Kurtz to school right now.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:45 PM
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17. She's missing the IMPORTANT PART
1. Bush DID get preferential treatment (ALL rich boys did)
2. His low test scores did not warrant his going ahead of others
3. He failed to take a physical and was NOT sent to Viet Nam as others did for similar infractions
4. He got a transfer after he was DENIED one by a different commander
5. His time in Alabama is unaccounted for
6. NO ONE remembers him, when most people remember who they went to summer camp with when they were 9 years old
7. He was the son of a "Big Shot", and people would have remembered him
8. His records mysteriously "disappeared", when there are records online for soldiers in the Revolutionary War..

Thos e are the bullet points that should be hit on..every time..

the "type-size...lady at the livestock show..meetings in parking lots stuff" is just distraction mumbo-jumbo to discredit the basic underlying story.

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:41 PM
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9. She spanked him like a red haired stepchild!
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:42 PM
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10. Kurtz is an ass
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:42 PM
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12. She kicked Howie Kurtz's butt!
Sunday ought to be interesting. Will Kurtz pull an O'Liely and cut her microphone? Inquiring minds wanna know! LOL
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:44 PM
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15. He's got some homework to do before Sunday
Including finishing her book.

I just ordered it up from my library. I'm first on the list for it!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:43 PM
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14. you know i never hear anything about Powerline anymore
thats kind of weird.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:44 PM
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16. She was very impressive with Kurtz
He looked like a little boy being scolded when she rightfully attacked his reporting.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:45 PM
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18. What that bimbette Abbey failed to disclose was that
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 04:45 PM by burythehatchet
the original freeptoid is a Republican operative in Atlanta. I would bet that he is connected to Guckert and was part of the planned "investigation".
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:46 PM
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19. Kurtz has ZERO credibility, imo
He is an obvious shill for the bush admin, his wife has done work for the bush admin, continues to do work for republicans and he will do nothing that might jeopardize her relationship with the repubs, imo.

Mapes was great, she stood toe to toe with Howie and he looked like an ass as a consequence.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:56 PM
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21. She discussed new evidence regarding typewriters back then
and all of a sudden Wolf changed the subject to how CBS was discrediting her story. He didn't seem the least bit curious about the fonts, etc., which he had harped on seconds before. His only mission, it is evident, is to further trash Mary Mapes and the entire Guard story.
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