BREAKING: MEDIA TRYING TO SLIME FITZGERALD

[Halliburton]

Libby's buddy Tim Russert and Soledad O'Brien have been caught lying this morning according to Dailykos. They said that Woodward's bombshell is a stunning revelation that helps Libby because it contradicts what Fitzgerald said at the press conference.

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[annabanana]

1. link it and I'll bitch to them..

Every time I hear the lie, I will respond.

[Halliburton]

6. here

[e-mail], and http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?2

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Fitzgerald made it clear in the conference

that he hadn't made much headway because of stonewalling and lying. I don't see how Woodward's revelation at the 13th hour changes this-to my mind, it reinforces it. And makes Woodward's credibility sink to the negative double digits imho.

[MADem]

14. The key word that they are all skipping is KNOWN

Libby was the first one who was KNOWN by the investigators to have leaked, not the first one to have leaked.

In any event, this is all bullshit to try to cloud the issue.

Libby's problem was LYING to the Feds, and OBSTRUCTING justice.

The leaking stuff, he was not even charged with that.

[Avalux]

3. They're repeating what Libby's attorney said yesterday

Just like the little parrots they are. Woodward purposefully withheld information - was Fitzgerald supposed to read his mind?

Bush threw the word irresponsible around a lot yesterday; if anyone's irresponsible it's corporate media.

[thefloyd]

4. Man

MSM surely contains ex weathermen. Russert and Company should give some sort of handicap or percent chance of WRONG. Helps Libby? No way shape or form does Woodward revelation help Libby. Libby and Woodward are mutally exclusive. Libby still obstructed justice, perjured, made false statements.

[acmavm]

5. They're just pissed because it's coming out how guilty they are in

aiding and abetting the bush** crime syndicate, I mean administration.

[peace frog]

7. You attribute to them more humanity than they possess

Those soulless ghouls are dead to guilt or shame.

[thefloyd]

12. I think MSM

is embarrassed. So far only Tweety has acknowledged the White House
clearly manipulated all Press Outlets to bring public opinion in line with Neoconservative lies. Russert and gang love to bring up how Democrats voted for Bushco's imperialism and are now changing positions . However, Democrats should asked certain presstitutes why THEY no longer seem to support the war OR head to Iraq and report supposedly good thing happening.

[dkofos]

you had it right the first time

* crime syndicate

[papau]

8. Woodward DOES NOT CONTRADICT Fitzgerald! - As KO noted

last night the quote said "first person known to the government" re Libby.

Now Libby is the second person known to the government.

No difference in a case about telling lies, indeed the same lie 4 times, where the lie is easy to prove.

[JerseygirlCT]

30. That's it -

he still committed the crimes he's been indicted for. What we know with more certainty now is that he was not alone.

Having company doesn't make him any less guilty. I'm puzzled that it's being allowed to play that way.

[papau]

33. Very Curious - CNN/ABC are on the same page as the GOP - but CBS

and to a lesser extent NBC are saying the obvious - that this changes nothing.

And I don't watch Fox!

:-)

[Chiyo-chichi]

35. NBC?

You're not listening to Timmy Russert.

[papau]

37. KO is MSNBC so they get a small plus despite the whore Timmy Russert

and indeed a few other whores.

I always wonder how much of the GOP control comes from the bias of the news reader, and how much from the producer, editor and publisher and a desire for those big checks continuing.

[bullimiami]

9. the fact that someone was trying to work woodward too reinforces

the conspiracy.

it was the whole WH doing the treason.

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Woodward is bad news for everyone

He was one of the few people 'close' to the president. He is now on record having lied numerous times about the Plame investigation. Only when Fitzgerald forces Woodward to testify, notice Woodward didn't go to jail or the SC, does Woodward come out with his twisted version of the 'truth' and somehow Fitzgerald's case falls apart. I don't think so. This is just more proof of the level and seriousness of this conspiracy.

[Straight Shooter]

36. Woodward threw sand in the umpire's face.

By not coming forward, he obstructed justice.

I submit he also tampered with the 2004 presidential election by withholding facts and evidence which would have educated people as to exactly who was involved in the outing of Plame. Such knowledge may well have tipped the number of votes sufficiently that even Diebold and Blackwell could not have buried the truth. Look at how bush's poll numbers, and especially Cheney's ratings, dipped on the same timeline with the revelations about Libby.

The majority of the American public isn't stupid about what to do when they know the truth. That is why Libby lied. That is why Woodward did not come forward.

[LaurenG]

11. Why do we care that they lie?

They can spin this any way they like. It doesn't change the facts. Libby was indicted for LYING. Fitzgerald said he was the first KNOWN person to leak. Libby STILL lied and Fitzgerald just has more information to get whoever else is involved in outing Valerie Plame. The neocons are in so much trouble, they are only trying to delay the INEVITABLE. BTW, Russert knows good and well that he is spinning a lie.

[malaise]

13. Media my a$$

Political hacks posing as journalists is a better description.

[annabanana]

24. because they are the only source of info

for millions of Americans..
We are a little insulated, here on the 'net. We begin to assume that everyone has cable, than everyone has equal access to the information that is now the air that we breathe.

[LaurenG]

28. I know what you are saying but, in the end it

doesn't really count for anything. Libby has been indicted for lying. His trial will be over the lies not the fact that he outed anyone. How will the spinning media change the fact that he is on record as a lair. It won't help him at all. It may delay (a bit) the total downfall of everyone involved but only because Fitz just keeps getting more leads. Who cares if Libby wasn't the first one to out Plame. Let Fitz just keep racking up the names. I hope he gets to the bottom of this and it goes all the way to the top.

[BlueManDude]

15. good - it'll just get him pissed n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Um, wouldn't Russert be a primary witness against Libby?

Why is he on television saying anything about this? Fitzgerld should ask the judge for a gag order.

It is absolutely ridiculous for Tim Russert, whose testimony is crucial in one of the perjury charges against Libby, to be commenting on the case.

[Binka]

27. Thank You For Saying This!

Timmy should be talking to a damn good attorney instead of flapping his vagina on TV. What a douche bag!

[Chiyo-chichi]

40. third person Russert & the other people's faulty memory defense

Russert also referred to himself in the third person this morning. That was just plain weird.

He also said that Woodward's claims cloud the picture and that Libby's defense team can argue "See? Other people's memories are foggy on this, too."

Brilliant. The "Other People's Faulty Memory" Defense!

[alcibiades_mystery]

44. But nobody else's memory was foggy

Is Woodward claiming he forgot the conversation? No. Is the official? Dubious.

The whole argument is bunk.

Besides, Libby's lies to the grand jury are even more substantial. He told the grand jury that he hadn't known anything about Plame before Russert told him. That's demonstrably false nonsense. He had been working extensively on the matter, and had information on Plame from several sources prior to talking to Russert, according to the evidence. It's like saying that the subject of your senior thesis was unknown to you until another student told you about it, when in fact you'd taken out 25 books on it and attended three seminars about it prior to that conversation. It's laughable, and an obvious lie. And it has nothing to do with faulty memory. Nobody's memory is that faulty.

[Chiyo-chichi]

47. Yes. It is absolute bunk.

The "busy executive" defense is bunk and the "other people's foggy memory" defense is bunk. But that's what Russert said, I swear & he was referring to Woodward's foggy memory. You're right. That BW has a foggy memory is bunk, too.

[Chiyo-chichi]

48. I went to MSNBC/Today Show site

to watch the clip again. You have to look for it - it is kinda hard to find.

It was truly disgusting the way both Matt Lauer & Russert were laboring to dismiss Fitzgerald & support Libby.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. It's not just those two...they've been allowing NeoCon "spokespeople".....

...to say that for the last couple of days.

Not to worry...they're no longer getting a pass for lying.

[stop the bleeding]

18. when will these people ever learn?!?

"KNOWN"

[spanone]

19. Libby = perjury....Libby was busted for lying. This makes no difference.

Soledad only reads news because CNN thinks she's 'morning cute' ala Katie Couric.

[Ian David]

20. They are so full of shit. I've hate Soleded for a long time. n/t

[Just Me]

21. They're still accepting information from pathological liars.

Our media is behaving, once again, in an irresponsible, dishonorable and unethical way. The people will continue to turn away from them if they don't get their shit together.

[SillyGoose]

22. I heard that same thing last night from Tucker Carlson.

Seems like that is their new talking point re: Plame.

[panader0]

23. Thanks for the link

My complaint has been sent and received.

[Caretha]

25. I wouldn't worry about this too much

Fitzgerald is concentrated on finding the truth, and as Woodward says....he's a junkyard dog turning over every rock...I love it!

Think about this also...the slime are running to Fitzgerald to out everyone they can think of to cover their own butts. :rofl:

[Ian David]

26. It seems like EVERYONE was leaking Plame's name EVERYWHERE...

to a great many reporters, constantly.

It's almost as if they had marching orders from somewhere telling them to "casually drop Valerie Plame into the conversation" when speaking to reporters.

Either that, or it is routine to leak classified information and mention covert agents names in the courses of conversation on a daily basis, and the only reason Valerie Plame stands-out is because this is the only one we're asking them about.

For all we know, they let Robert Novak play in that little room Tom Cruise broke into in "Mission: Impossible" where they store The NOC List.

[dkofos]

29. Who cares what woody knew and when he knew it

What has he done since Watergate?

Just more spin to confuse the real issue.

[Roland99]

31. Here's what I sent to the CNN link >>>>

I must inquire as to why Soledad O'Brien was spreading falsehoods on the air today?

She said that the revelation yesterday that Bob Woodward spoke to Stephen Hadley re: the leaking of Valerie Plame's identity contradicts what Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald said at a press conference.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Fitzgerald spoke at the press conference saying that Libby was the first KNOWN official to have been part of the leak.

That's what was KNOWN at the time of the press conference.

If this administration had one ounce of integrity, they'd come clean. As it is, corporate lapdogs in the media such as CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. allow this administration to run rampant over the truth.

The Fourth Estate has failed the American public.

[burythehatchet]

32. In reality, its the producers at CNN

rather than the newsreaders that are culpable for lying. Someone like Soledad is a simple, vacuous, unintelligent fool. Her knowledge base about history and politics is limited to what she might read in Newsweek, which would be heavy reading for her.

[AlCzervik]

34. "Libby is the FIRST KNOWN official that leaked her name" what part

of that don't they get, he's just the first known, there could be many others that will soon be referred to as "The 2nd known" "The 3rd known" "The 4th known"

[Supersedeas]

38. Pubbie Spin: Fitz wasn't very thorough if he missed Woodward

[The Stranger]

39. Soledad O'Brien is truly disgusting.

[LondonReign2]

42. Soledad is incapable of lying

Knowingly lying, that is. I swear, that woman doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. I don't think she is smart enough to knowingly tell a lie, she just reads what is on the cue cards, and giggles and guffaws and makes vacuous remarks to fill the rest of the time.

[Lex]

46. She used to screw up so many words and concepts on her morning show

that I ended up LMAO in the mornings trying to get dressed to go to work.

I swear, I should've written all the malaprops and mispronunciations down.

[Hubert Flottz]

41. Let's waterboard Woodward and Libby and get some "REAL

ANSWERS" ASAP!

[obreaslan]

43. I emailed them....

I told them to read the transcript again. This time without the GOP colored glasses on.

:grr:

[Lex]

45. Good line.

I might have to steal that from you at some point.

:thumbsup:

[Tiggeroshii]

49. They're wrong. It hurts the Administration and HURTS Libby because it

brings backing to the idea that the Administration was irresponsibly spewing information every which way without considering the sensitivity of it, nonetheless caring...

[Garbo 2004]

50. Nice try but stupid & Tim knows better. (Been getting more phone calls

Tim from "concerned viewers" in the Administration?)

Fitz will be trying the indictment in court, not the press conference. Unless Timmy is planning to change his own testimony regarding his conversation with Libby, there is no "bombshell." And that Woodward is a craven tool just like them also is hardly "breaking news."