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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:41 PM
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Old story about Murtha and Kerry may open some eyes
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 11:05 PM by LittleClarkie
Blast from the past time:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0918-21.htm

Kerry Says President Plans Huge Call-Up
by Patrick Healy

ALBUQUERQUE -- Senator John F. Kerry accused the Bush administration yesterday of secretly planning to call up a substantial number of military reservists and National Guard units after Election Day to go to Iraq, opening a new front in the Democrat's ongoing attack that the president is concealing postwar instability in Iraq from American voters.

"He won't tell us what congressional leaders are now saying -- that this administration is planning yet another substantial call-up of reservists and Guard units immediately after the election," Kerry told 300 people at a community center here.

"Hide it from people through the election, then make the move -- that's not the way we do business in the United States of America, my friends. We deserve a president who tells the American people the truth, and when it comes to Iraq, George W. Bush simply won't own up to the truth. He hasn't all along. In fact, he'll do anything he can to cover up the truth."

The allegations came after the Kerry campaign this week asked Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a congressional ally and Pentagon specialist, to provide evidence of the reservist plan in order for Kerry to escalate his questioning of Bush's handling of Iraq, aides to Murtha said yesterday. The aides said a relatively small number of new reservists would be involved, probably 2,000 to 2,500, but the idea that such a plan would be kept quiet until after the election spurred Kerry to focus on Bush's honesty as commander in chief.

On edit: So why couldn't they be working together now. Murtha suggesting a more extreme plan so that Kerry's plan will look more viable to folks. Or something. Thanks to blm for the suggestion.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:44 PM
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1. WHOA....wait a second.....do you think Murtha put up a 6 month plan to
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 10:46 PM by blm
FORCE more compromise by the Republicans for Kerry's withdrawal plan?

Because I thought it was odd all day today that Murtha would come out with this plan on the same day that Kerry was FINALLY getting to talk about his withdrawal plan.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:46 PM
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2. Took me a second to see what you were talking about.
Might explain why Kerry is keeping his distance. Aside from him not being an "out this very second" guy and all, I mean.

Hrm. They do seem know have worked together before. Heh. That would be a masterstroke, wouldn't it?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:50 PM
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3. I thought of it earlier today but only fleetingly.
Your post really kicked in with the reminder that they've worked together before.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:08 PM
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6. I just changed the headline again for the third time
per your suggestion. There ya go.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:52 PM
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4. Guaranteed...
Kerry and Murtha are working together on this one. They both used the same EXCELLENT meme--"a guy who got FIVE deferments".

I think it's GREAT.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:01 PM
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5. I'm editing my headline and kicking this back up
to the top.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:11 PM
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7. I can't wait to see it for myself.
Waiting for the late night repeat.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:01 AM
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14. good catch! n/t
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:33 AM
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19. Could be, but I'll bet every congressman who served is well aware
of Cheney's five deferments. He's the ultimate chickenhawk to them, I'm sure.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:16 PM
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8. Excellent deduction, LittleClarkie
I would never have thought it myself, but it makes sense. About time these guys got some spine and some intelligence to collaborate with one another, not to undermine each other.

b_b
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:18 PM
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10. Can't take the credit. blm thought of it, I just jogged his memory
with my little article.

I edited my OP to include his excellent deduction.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:21 PM
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11. jogged HER memory....
;)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:23 PM
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12. Sorry hun.
I get that alot too.

Aside from being a great man and Senator, I bet he makes your heart go piddy pat as well, then. Seems to happen to all the Kerry gals.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:16 PM
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9. It certainly puts the Democrats in the newsmakers slot and
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 11:17 PM by ProSense
leaves the Republicans scratching their heads trying to determine how to respond.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:24 PM
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13. Send that article to Americablog and tell John A. he needs to apologize
for his abysmal lack of comprehension.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:23 AM
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15. He doesn't strike me as the brightest crayon in the box anyway
His understanding of pretty much every issue tends to be really shallow and one dimensional.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:57 AM
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21. I believe he's very sincere, but, doesn't know enough historically to put
two plus two together.

And jumping the gun on a network tease clip before you've even heard what was fully said is just BAD REPORTING PERIOD.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:11 AM
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16. in that case Murtha is quite an actor.
The man looked completely sincere in his outraged demand.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:31 AM
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20. He is absolutely sincere.... he wants an end. By now, I bet most of them
do, including half the WH.

It's getting there. His push to get there is as real as it gets, imo. He's been around a long time and knows it;s a battle to bring the rightwing into the withdrawal camp.
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jenndar Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:22 AM
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17. I hope blm and Little Clarkie
are both right. It'd be great to see Dems in both houses uniting on this.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:16 AM
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18. It would be. n/t
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