My lunch with two wingnuts. They're as crazy as we think they are.

[Cyrano]

I was sitting on a barstool in a Chili's restaurant, eating, sipping a virgin mary, and reading a newspaper. Two men, who looked to be in their 50s, came in and sat down nearby. I can't remember everything they said verbatim, but what I can remember is disgusting enough.

They were bitching about how DeLay, "Duke" Cunningham, "Scooter" Libbey, Bill Frist, and many others, were under attack by "them liberal fags." Their solution of choice was "We should napalm them all."

One of them went on to suggest that "Bush ought to send them all to Guantanamo," which led to a discussion about torture. They reached the conclusion that "It ain't torture if it's defending us. That fucking Pelosi would probably like to see them win."

Let's face it. They hate our guts. And many, if not most of us hate their guts. The difference is, if we were in control, we would despise their beliefs and ignore them. But they don't want to leave us alone. They really and truly would like to see all of us, and our beliefs, dead.

And if there's a moral to this story: always carry a bottle of Maalox or Pepto in your glove compartment.

[Loonman]

1. I'm not good at self-control in those situations

So I'd be in jail right now if I had to listen to those old fogeys during lunch.

[stepnw1f]

11. I Involuntarily Made a Fist

while reading that. I hate to say this, but I would have gotten myself into trouble if I was present.

[longship]

12. I resent the "old fogey" tag.

Let's get this straight. The proper terminology for somebody in their fifties (like myself) is "old fart". If you can't get your terminology correct while posting here at DU, you shouldn't be doing it.
:evilgrin:

Hell, I won't be an old fogey for a couple of years, at least.

[sendero]

20. Right..

... I'm in my 50s and I won't be an old fogey for at least 9 years :)

[fudge stripe cookays]

30. Yeah, but...

you've got that sexy Picard thing going on, so it's OK.

:D

[sendero]

48. That's right!

I'll Make It So :)

[MADem]

33. Middle aged geezers, as opposed to old ones!! n/t

[Voltaire99]

"Geezer" is a state of mind.

I can show you 20-year old College Rethugs who qualify as geezers.

Then there's Lawrence Ferlinghetti, who at 86 is possibly "younger" than you. ;-)

I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now
--Dylan, My Back Pages

[MADem]

54. Honestly, I think most folks are younger than me!!!

If there's any truth to that old saw "You're as young as you feel!" I'd have to say I'm in the running with Methuselah!!!!

But crankiness can be helpful, too--I won't take any crap from those college GOP whippersnapper geezers!!!

[Loonman]

22. Point taken

:donut:

[Demit]

23. Haha! You tell em! I prefer "incipient geezer" myself.

[sui generis]

40. here's a geritol, have a heyday!

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[longship]

45. No Geritol, I use Serutan

(That's "Natures" spelled backwards.) :rofl:

[MADem]

55. Do they still show that old commercial???

:rofl:

[zanne]

52. I like the way you think.

I agree that "old fart" is the correct term. I wear that tag with honor. (Not everybody gets to be an old fart!)

[Vinnie From Indy]

2. The real insanity is

that these guys will probably lose their jobs BECAUSE of BushCo policies and STILL vote GOP. They ought to call the GOP the party of chickens voting for Col. Sander's.

[VaYallaDawg]

17. Just like some of the ones here in the South -

the only thing holding their rust-bucket car together is the "W" sticker.

[Arkansas Granny]

18. Another measure of their insanity is that they think their views

are patriotic.

[rkc3]

25. Taking away our civil rights is the ultimate form of patriotism.

You heard it here first.

(end sarcasm)

[yankeedem]

3. Sometimes I think that some people don't deserve to live

in a democracy. I mean, these guys would throw away every value that we as Americans hold dear in veneration of Herr Bush.

I hope they were loud and others heard them. That will turn the US blue faster than anything.

[Mountainman]

4. They sound like a couple of ignorant jerks to me.

They talk big but talk is all they are I'd guess. What they say to each other is used to bolster a false image that they have of themselves. Those guys are the reason freerepublic exists.

They can vote but other than that they can't hurt us. We have to vote in greater numbers than they do. Americans are waking up even if those two haven't.

[coalition_unwilling]

32. One tactic I've used with lumpenvolk is to ask

them whether, if they support the war, they are willing to enlist in the military. That usually shuts them up, under the general rubric of "sign up or shut up."

[demnan]

5. My question to my Republican carpool on the way home

"How come people want to put the ten commandments up in court buildings, but not the Sermon on the Mount?"

I'm going to spin their heads on that one.

And I didn't make it up, I got it from Kurt Vonnegut's new book.

[CatWoman]

9. did you get a new kitty?

:hi:

look at those big yellow eyes :D

[demnan]

26. That's Charley! Yes I've had him a couple of months.

For more pictures check out the Pets Forum. Here is his Catster page: http://www.catster.com/pet_page.php?i=202939&j=t&PHPSESSID=04f079a375c4d87265ae839756450eb8

:hi: Thanks for asking! :loveya:

[MuseRider]

13. Do report on that

it sounds like a wonderful conversation. Good on you!

[calimary]

42. Cheers! Cheers! Cheers!

The folks who swear by the ten commandments show by their behavior that they know nothing of the Beatitudes.

[Clark2008]

51. I ask that all the time.

It really freaks them out.

:evilgrin:

[Arugula Latte]

6. I do hate them. I do.

Assholes like that have ruined this country. I hate them.

[displacedtexan]

7. I overheard a family lamenting about "Poor President Bush"...

in a restaurant last Saturday. They said he wasn't a politician and that all of this mess had been thrust upon him.

They feel genuinely sorry for the freak monkey.

The idiot card will now be played!

[stanwyck]

14. That may be the new "strategery"

feel sorry for Bush. I've heard many CSPAN Washington Journal callers say "he's doing the best he can!"
Well, yes, he is.
And that's what is so unsettling.

[MADem]

38. No, the special ed kid who is mainstreamed and gets a certificate

of attendance after 12 years of schooling is "doing the best he can."

The Monkey has failed to live up to his potential, by virtue of his family wealth, the advantages he has had from childhood, and the positions he has held. He has FAILED TO LEARN, at school, in life, or from experience.

Miserable failure, indeed!!!! http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=miserable+failure

[ET Awful]

19. If he's not a politician, why the hell did he run for office? n/t

[MountainLaurel]

35. 'Cause Daddy told him to.

Seriously though -- I've read that Jebbie was actually meant to be the candidate in 2000, but for some reason it was decided that it wasn't prudent and thus we got the Shrub.

[Demobrat]

43. Some reason....

like the small fact that wifey-poo got caught smuggling her wardrobe in from Europe....at a very embarassing time.

[MountainLaurel]

46. Aaah, that was it

I had wondered if Noel's little problems had started by that point?

[devinsgram]

24. He knew what he was getting into,

and I'm sure he knew he couldn't handle it. However, they told him Cheyney would take care of everything and he believed them. What a fool, now that it's all going wrong, the rats are going to jump ship.

[EstimatedProphet]

31. What kind of stupid mentality is that?

Feel sorry for him? Maybe let him keep making blunders because he's outclassed?
Don't these people even understand why the office of President is important?

[sinkingfeeling]

34. I would have probably said, "Then why don't you and your entire

church beg him to resign and give up the worries of the world. He could just sit at home in Crawford and read his Bible."

[MuseRider]

8. I think I

would need more than Maalox and Pepto just for the Chili and virgin Mary. For the conversation? Well, that is why I take my husband with me when I go into situations where other Kansans are present. I am too busy rubbing my shins from his kicking to get into a loud, public screaming match. The last time it was all about nuking any country that disagrees with us. Yes, they included damn liberals in the nuking.

I hope the Maalox helped and you are absolutely right, they want us gone.

[yellowcanine]

10. I am amazed they weren't wearing the virgin Mary after the Pelosi comment.

You could have called it a "drive by soaking."

[The Sleeper]

15. Hmmm.....

"And if there's a moral to this story: always carry a bottle of Maalox or Pepto in your glove compartment."

Or start strenously exercising your 2nd Amendment rights....



Some of these clowns wish they could put us in camps,or just flat out exterminate us. Wonder what will set them off....

[savemefromdumbya]

16. Matter of intellect

most Repugs have 1/2 brain cell (that enables them to talk (sort of))

[cry baby]

21. I absolutely cannot find it in my imagination that there are really

people like this...vile, violent, hard-hearted. I try to give the benefit of the doubt to people and think they are really good-hearted, just uninformed. OK - I give - there are more of them than in my worst nightmare.

I will never understand that kind of thinking.

[EstimatedProphet]

27. There's a lot of flat-out ugly stupid people around today

We can hope, and it may be likely, that they are all talk. But if they're not, what is someone who theinks their actions are justified and patriotic just because they do them, and doubly so if they hurt people, going to do when things quit going their way?

[Sanity Claws]

28. lesson: don't sit at the bar to eat

You end up sitting next to people who drink their lunch and have the addled minds to prove it.
These guys really do sound impaired. Their politics is only part of their problem.
Bright side: not enough livers for their transplants.

[maxsolomon]

29. they're just "joking".

they weren't serious. why don't you liberals have a sense of humor like us real americans?

:sarcasm:

your post makes me sad. sometimes i forget what it would be like to live or work in a place like wherever you had lunch. seattle is a bubble of liberal rationality. those 2 would never dare say that shit out loud here, someone would get in their face immediately. most likely the manager at flingers or tchotchkes or chilis.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

36. "They" do hate us

but I like to think that there just aren't that many of them. I mean, the bell curve dictates that they are in the minority.

[Voltaire99]

57. On whether these men are in the minority...

You might be right, TallahasseeGrannie.

But I guess these two represent only a mild deviation--that is to say, somewhat more extreme in their views--from the norm in this punitively puritan land.

Half the nation voted for Bush even after Abu Ghraib; better than half still supported the war until a few months ago.

Going back further, majorities have been saying since the 80s that they'd sacrifice civil liberties for greater security. One reading of that is "civil liberties" translates, for social conservatives, as freedom for the people they hate.

But if you're right, then another way to see the Chilis idiots is in the light of bitterness over failure. They're watching the end of what (with luck) will prove to be a short-lived era--that, namely, of post-9/11 hysteria.

And they can't stand it. Every hope they had for remaking America in the image of vicious pro-war fascism is starting to crumble, from their vanity war to the declining popularity of their Asshole-in-Chief.

I would say this is both cause for hope and cause for concern. We could be at a tipping point culturally. It is possible America will retreat from Bushism and lick our wounds, and ask ourselves how we fell so low. Yet Bushism may yet find a way to reassert itself spectacularly and hideously.

[MADem]

37. There is actually an ENORMOUS bright spot in your horrific tale!!!

And the bright spot is this: They're GRIPING.

They feel put upon, under attack, forced to justify their hideous positions. Gone is the swagger, the overinflated self-assurance, the ego, the hubris, the dismissive wave of the hand.

There used to be a time in this country when anyone complaining about the GOP party line would be dismissed with a quick, short, snarky comment, and then it would be on to how their stocks were doing, the sports scores, and how they hired a Mexican under the table for next to nothing to do a repair without the appropriate permits, and saved a bundle!

The simple fact that they feel EMBATTLED, and need assurance from one another, is proof positive that we are making SERIOUS headway, and the mood of the nation is trending our way!

[sui generis]

39. oh my goodness

I could have actually broken a plate over each head and gotten away with it, and Chilis has some big thick ass plates.

It's some embarrassing shit to have your ass kicked by a liberal fag, and calling me (or my liberal brethren) a fag would have been provocation enough, and you know the waiter would have my back. I didn't say whether I noticed they'd made eye contact, just that I felt threatened.

In Florida I could have even shot them, according to Jebbie.

Yee haw!

disgusting pukes

[ScooterKen]

41. If you were in Texas you could have...

.... kicked their butts and then told the cops "They needed an ass-whoopin'" as a defense.

I hear that works as a defense in Texas....

[Greyhound]

44. Now he gets it. I live with these assholes, in fact, I'm completely

surrounded by them. I've been trying to say this since I found this board and am consistently shouted down. You're just sinking to their level, etc. It's like the log cabin re:puke:s, they just don't seem to understand that, given the opportunity, their 'colleagues' would gladly round them up and exterminate them. Then they'd start on us.

[woofless]

47. Old Farts of DU unite.

We're a farce to reckon with.

Woof

[AX10]

49. These right wingers are facsists. Yes, they want to see us dead.

Remember the Dixie Chicks Fiasco. That spoke volumes of just how bad the Country "Music" Community (KKKlear Channel) is. 3/4th's of Nashville is pure right wing crap.

[MadHound]

50. It is people like this that make me very glad to be a large man

I love going up to jerks like this, after making statements like that, and looming all of my 6'5", 260# frame over them, and then start in on just how wrong they are, how sorry their asses are, and where they can go, how to get there, and what conveyance to take. It is quite prescious to watch as the blood drains from their face, they start getting the shakes, and if I'm a little bit lucky one will piss all over himself. I never threaten violence, but then again, I don't need to. It is just priceless.

[Voltaire99]

53. What a pair of terrorists. (nt)

[Zhade]

56. ...and maybe a gun, too.

Some real crazy rightwingers out there.