George W. Bush was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize

[jmowreader]

I point this out because in every "Save Tookie" thread I've seen so far, the fact that Tookie was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is mentioned.

To that I say, so what? They nominated Bush for it. Anyone can be NOMINATED for it. I could be nominated for it.

This still doesn't change the fact that before Tookie was arrested, convicted and condemned, as a co-founder of the Crips he holds great responsibility for helping to turn Los Angeles into a war zone. Nor does it change the fact that he killed four people in very brutal fashion.

[Oceansaway]

1. well said !!

[Spinzonner]

2. I think you probably have a spelling error

Most likely it's Nobel Piece Prize for being such a whore for the rich.

[derby378]

3. Announcements of NPP nominations are fake, anyway

The Nobel board doesn't publicize whom they're considering for the Peace Prize, do they? It's just another bullshit-scented feather in the caps of con artists.

[jmowreader]

6. The Swedish Academy doesn't publicize the shortlist, no

Remember, being NOMINATED doesn't mean you're WORTHY. Like I said, someone nominated Bush and the only "peace" he's ever been interested in is a "peace of ass" in Ciudad Juarez when he was taking a well-deserved respite from protecting Texas from Viet Cong invasion.

So all these people get nominated, and the ones you KNOW aren't gonna make it start bragging about the fact they're on the list. Then the Academy picks a handful of actual peacemakers and chooses the laureate from that list.

I think they know before nominations open up who the honoree will be.

[Webster Green]

4. Thou shalt not kill!

And......pre-meditated murder by a government agency of one of it's citizens is creepier than any gang related killing.

[Bucky]

5. Bush got nominated? My reaction to THAT news is...

But seriously, I have seen an official list of Nobel Peace Prize nominees... I think it was on the official Nobel prize website

[no_hypocrisy]

17. Being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize is equivalent to getting a

star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame: All you need are sponsors, and you're on the list.

[Toots]

7. So two wrongs make right in your book

How barbaric. Anyone who wishes to have a person killed is missing something the world has to offer...

[B Calm]

8. So what! Hitler was man of the year!

[meganmonkey]

9. You make a good point re: nominations, but the death penalty is wrong

no matter what, IMHO, and using a high profile example to get people talking about it is a good thing.

The death penalty is not something that so-called 'civilized' countries do. It has never been proven to reduce crime, it is utilized unfairly in our system, and when a mistake is made it cannot be fixed. State-sanctioned killing - all it does it make killing okay. I don't want to live in a society where killing is okay - by anyone.

Peace.

[Mutley]

13. Amen!

I feel that the death penalty is one answer to Michael Moore's question in Bowling for Columbine on why Americans are so violent and so full of blood-lust. The government is setting an example to the governed that murder is okay if the killer believes the killing is justified. America's obsession with war does the same thing.

[goclark]

15. Amen, Amen! Michael Moore was so Right

Message from America --- "Killing is Justified"

How and why should we be sending such a message in the 21st Century!

[Mutley]

16. Exactly.

A person sees the government killing criminals who have committed horrible crimes. So in that person's mind if someone commits what he sees as a horrible crime against him, then killing that person is justified. Then that killer gets arrested and in all likelihood will get the death penalty himself, all for committing the same act that is sanctioned by the state. It's a horrible vicious cycle, and we SHOULD be more advanced than that in this 21st Century. I guess this is what happens when we have Regressives constantly vying for control.

[goclark]

19. "Bush Kills Puppies" was on a Petition Clip Board Shown On CNN

They were discussing the Tookie case and showing all of the people gathered in front of the Prison.

People of all ages and colors were there.

Some wondergul cameraman/woman zeroed the camera on one of the clip boards and pasted on the big silver clip was....


BUSH KILLS PUPPIES! :thumbsup:

[Mutley]

20. Beautiful!

I love it. :D

[Union Thug]

10. Doesn't matter. The issue is giving the state the right to kill its own.

Death penalty is wrong and THIS is what should be debated. Tookie is just a temporary focal point.

[Mr_Spock]

11. Wow, so I guess being a mass-murderer is a good qualification

Hmmm, "peace" has a new meaning these days :shrug:

[bowens43]

12. It doesn't matter what he did

allowing the state to murder it's citizens is never justified.

[leesa]

14. There is still no point to killing him other than vengeance.

[stevietheman]

18. As with many convicted of the death panalty, however,...

there appear to have been problems with the prosecution. Read the savetookie.org site for details.

I generally support the death penalty, but to me, if there's a valid question of the convicted person's guilt, then the death sentence should be commuted.

[Rocknrule]

21. Why would they nominate someone who hates peace?

That makes no sense at all