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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:04 PM
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Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told

From Nick Meo in Aceh
Religious extremists are using last year’s storm to oppress the survivors



MARLUDDIN JALIL, a Sharia judge who has ordered the punishment of women for not wearing headscarves, was uncompromising: “The tsunami was because of the sins of the people of Aceh.”

Thundering into a microphone at a gathering of wives, he made clear where he felt the fault lay: “The Holy Koran says that if women are good, then a country is good.”

A year after the disaster which many see as a divine punishment, emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin — and women are their prime targets.

With reconstruction slow, irrational fears of a second tsunami high, and nearly 500,000 still homeless along 500 miles of coastline, the stern message falls on fertile ground. A Sharia police force modelled on Saudi moral enforcers enthusiastically seeks out female wrong doers for public humiliation.

The Wilayatul Hisbah, which loosely translates as “Control Team”, has arrested women, lopped off their hair, and paraded them in tears through the streets while broadcasting their sins over a megaphone.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1952823,00.html
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:06 PM
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1. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Is the judge's name Pat Robertson?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:07 PM
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2. What's Pat Robertson doing over there ??
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 12:07 PM by C_U_L8R
:-)
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:08 PM
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3. Tsunami was caused by an earthquake
Tsunamis can be generated when the sea floor abruptly shifts and vertically displaces the overlying water from its equilibrium position. Waves are formed as the displaced water mass attempts to regain its equilibrium. The main factor which determines the initial size of a tsunami is the amount of vertical sea floor deformation. Not all earthquakes generate tsunamis. To generate tsunamis, earthquakes must occur underneath or near the ocean, be large and create movements in the sea floor. All oceanic regions of the world can experience tsunamis, but in the Pacific Ocean there is a much more frequent occurrence of large, destructive tsunamis because of the many large earthquakes along the margins of the Pacific Ocean.

That damn science! I wish it would go away so we could bask with the ignorant.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:13 PM
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4. >>I wish it would go away so we could bask with the ignorant.
I want to believe in Santa Clause again too.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:17 PM
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5. you too!
and don't forget the easter bunny!
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:26 PM
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7. Shhhh!
If you mention the Easter Bunny too loud the right-wing Christians will gather up and do a crusade on celebrating Easter Sunday.

I can hear it now:

"It's blaspheme I tell you!" "The celebration of Jesus rising from the dead with bunnies and colored eggs!"
Thence a Christian crusade, ripping the heads off of stuffed and chocolate bunny's and smashing all the kids eggs.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:40 PM
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10. LOL
Your right, I only wish they understood both easter and christmas are both Pagan holidays. Of course they'd rush to each mall to burn Chris Kringle and the Easter bunny at the stake.

<snip> otherwise someone will yell at me:
Wherever Christian worship of Jesus and Pagan worship of Attis were active in the same geographical area in ancient times, Christians "used to celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus on the same date; and pagans and Christians used to quarrel bitterly about which of their gods was the true prototype and which the imitation."

I guess we know who won that battle eh?


and btw welcome to Du Dave!
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:53 PM
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11. Pagan holidays
I recently found that out, the actual origins that is, since the O'Rielly's Christmas war is getting as much attention as the Iraq war. I also found out that there are no specific dates as to the birth of Christ being on December 25th or even being in the month of December.

Thanks for the nice welcome "insane_cratic_gal":)
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:00 PM
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12. No, it was not Dec 25...if the shepherds were out in the fields...
watching their flocks, it would NOT have been December in Palestine.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:25 PM
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6. Earthquakes are fodder for Sermons: 1755 Lisbon Earthquake
"felt throughout Europe and North Africa, the quake inspired hundreds of sermons. Ministers held it up as a warning. Some saw it as a sign of the coming of Christ--one of the great earthquakes of the Apocalypse. Thousands a people realized they were unprepared for eternity."

http://chi.gospelcom.net/DAILYF/2001/11/daily-11-01-2001.shtml

Voltaire uses it in he great satire, "Candide." "While Candide lies under rubble after the Lisbon earthquake, Pangloss ignores his requests for oil and wine and instead struggles to prove the causes of the earthquake."

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/candide/themes.html

The "Candide" example shows how religion has failed us. Instead of doing something to help after 9-11, religious leaders like Pat Robertson and Falwell used their sick interpretation of this tragedy and tried to place blame upon the victims rather than on those who actually did it. That is why America has had such a time with this event. "Religion" didn´t even comfort our nation, it stabbed us in the back.



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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:27 PM
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8. someone ought to chase those (mental) masturbators naked thru the streets
dumbassed good-for-nothing hall monitors. It amazes me that the public doesn't more frequently conduct unplanned summary executions of old farts who think themselves qualified to tell others how to live. Weird. I doubt that it's just because it's illegal.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:30 PM
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9. Religious extremists blaming the sinful! (gasp!)
The same thing happend in the Gulf of Mexico to our OWN Sodom & Gamorrah!

We'd better straighten up and get those heads covered NOW!!!!

:dunce: :tinfoilhat:
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