What the hell is an "islamofascist"?

[Mr Rabble]

This has to be the most absurd thing I have heard in the last 3 hours.

[GrumpyGreg]

1. Where did you hear it? I'm waiting for the answer too.

[deadmessengers]

2. An islamofascist

is someone of the Muslim faith who doesn't fall into immediate lockstep with the wishes of the United States Republican Party.

Wasn't that easy?

[jim3775]

3. An Irish Muslim?

Islam O'Fascist

[hwmnbn]

16. bwahahaha....

:rofl: I'm going to steal and use that line. :rofl:

[pitohui]

4. how is it absurd

why wouldn't osama bin laden qualify, wanting all women to be slaves because of yr religion is as fascist as it gets to my mind

there are christian fascists too, fascism is not a specialty of the godless

[Mr Rabble]

8. It is absurd because...

fascism is a blending of corporate and state rule.

where does islam come into play?

[RaleighNCDUer]

19. I guess that would refer to Saudi Arabia, then

as the Islamic state that most merges coporate and state power.

Oh. Sorry. They're on our side.

Try again.

[AntiFascist]

23. They are also merging America's corporate and media power....

with their's.

From no less than FreeRepublic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1465942/posts

A good chunk of AOL Time Warner is owned by Prince Alwaleed Ibn Talal the Saudi billionaire. It is well known that Prince AlWaleed is a front for the Saudi royal family. All of the oil money that is swindled from Aramco the Saudi oil company is "invested" by Prince Al Waleed and his company.

More http://www.saudia-online.com/NewsMar02/news06.shtml


https://registration.ft.com/registration/barrier?referer=&location=http%3A//news.ft.com/cms/s/942102ce-38ca-11d9-bc76-00000e2511c8.html


Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, the billionaire Saudi investor, has vowed to block any hostile takeover bid for News Corp, throwing his support behind Rupert Murdoch, chairman of the US media group.

Kingdom Holding Company, the prince's privately owned investment vehicle, has promised to convert its 3 per cent non-voting stake in News Corp worth about $1bn into voting stock and acquire additional shares in the event of a bid.

[K-W]

26. You are thinking of misogyny, not facism.

Facism is something entirely different.

[Loonman]

5. Like a Christo-fascist or Judeo-fascist

Just illustrating the stupidity of the term.

Buddho-fascist?
Shinto-fascist?
Zoroastero-fascist?

[K-W]

27. It is more than possible to have facist groups based on religious ideology

There is nothing particularly stupid about the term.

What is stupid is that the word facism has no place in discussions about Osama, Al Queda, etc. Bringing facism into the discussion is absurd, and it only happens because so few people actually know what facism is.

For most people:

Al Quada = Bad
Facism = Bad

Sure, works for them.
That and some people simply generalize Facism to mean authoritarianism. This is a popular contrievence on the right.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

6. A phrase first coined, perhaps, by

Michael-the-Savage-Weiner in attempt to dodge his outright islamophobia.

[Lerkfish]

7. you're only just NOW hearing it?

they've been stirring up the skinhead base with that one for years.
their core 30% are mostly white supremacists, most likely.

It doesn't have to make sense...it just has to stir up racial hatred.

[Mr Rabble]

10. No, I just read a Ivins piece.

She used it. That surprised me.

Maybe she was being ironic?

[LSK]

21. that would be the Saudi Royal family aka the Bush friends

[melissinha]

9. its a Marc Marron word.. i think

I think it means the kind of Islamic fundamentalist that is mirrored by Pat Robertson and his the Christofascist Zombie brigade.

THey want to fight people exactly like themselves, fundamentalists, but commit the economic safety and physical safety of people who are not islamofascist to do it on their behalf

[SlipperySlope]

11. Answer = Fascism with an Isamic face

The bombers of Manhattan represent fascism with an Islamic face, and there's no point in any euphemism about it. What they abominate about "the West," to put it in a phrase, is not what Western liberals don't like and can't defend about their own system, but what they do like about it and must defend: its emancipated women, its scientific inquiry, its separation of religion from the state.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011008/hitchens

[Tom Joad]

20. Has nothing to do with supporting tyranny and occupation?

And you are linking to converted Bushman Hitchens?

It has nothing to with supporting a brutal occupation in Palestine for decades? It has nothing to do with supporting Arab dictatorships so that we can have access to their oil? It has nothing to do with a long history of western imperialism and colonization?

All that in no way justifies attacks on civilians in Manhattan or elsewhere, but until we recognize the truth of US acts of terrorism world-wide we have no hope of real peace and justice.

[SlipperySlope]

31. Hey? What?

I'm not supporting anything. There was a question what the word meant, I pointed the original poster to a definition.

Excuse me for trying to help.

[Clark2008]

12. Same thing as a Saddamist?

:shrug:

[lpbk2713]

13. I dunno .... Something like a feminazi?

Now where have I heard that one before?


:shrug:

[hwmnbn]

14. It's the new freeper/neo-con catch-word.....

They use it in the context of Islamo-fascist death cults. They are referring to any anti-american Arab who follows Islam. According to him we are at war with them.

I've been debating/destroying one such nutbag in another forum. He is delusional and has visions of suicide bombers coming to destroy america. His name is Freddy. For an insight, take a look at the last two posts:

http://www.peacetakescourage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3546#3546



The frightening thing is he claims to be a history teacher/professor. I can't verify that fact, but he writes and spells well.



edit for better sentence structure

[deadmessengers]

15. Thinking more about it

I think it's an attempt by the political right wing to distract us from their own rocket ride towards fascism. Basically, if they can confuse in the minds of the public fascism with totalitarianism (and clearly, the Taliban, the Iranian mullahs, and the Baath party were decidedly totalitarian in nature), they're immunizing themselves against being labeled as fascists themselves.

At the end of the day, it's a diversionary tactic.

[Lerkfish]

28. that has been their tactic on every issue: its rovianmunchausenspiel

where you pretend to the be the victim, even to the point of false flag operations against yourself, in order to innoculate yourself against criticism when you commit the exact crime, or worse, of what you're pretending to be a victim of.

Therefore, "democrats are mean-spirited"
Therefore, "liberals are unpatriotic"
Therefore, "people against the war are against the troops"
Therefore, "liberals are tax and spend and big govt."


etc. etc.

[deadmessengers]

33. LOL

"rovianmunchausenspiel" I love it. Don't be surprised if I steal that from you one day :rofl:

[Lerkfish]

35. go for it, I just made it up!

but its very appropriate.

[Loonman]

17. So Abe Foxman is a Judeo-fascist, and Pat Robertson...

...is a christo-fascist.

[AntiFascist]

18. Those who are close to Saudi Royalty....

like our President.

[SoCalDem]

22. Been listening to Lou Dobbs?

It's just an all-inclusive xenophobic term to describe "suspect" middle easterners:(

[Tarc]

24. Just the latest FReeper buzzword for Muslim terrorist

Nothing much to worry about really.

[yella_dawg]

25. IslamoFascist

Noun: Yet another meaningless word coined to engender emotional reaction in the educationally impaired.

[tabasco]

29. Exactly.

A feeble attempt to equate the Iraq war with WWII.

You know. Bush = Churchill according to the propagandists.

[deadmessengers]

30. Remember...

Churchill got bounced out on his ass as soon as WW2 was over.

[rman]

32. It means that the saying "he who invokes fascism first,

has lost the argument".
Does not apply to the RW, according to the RW.

[enki23]

34. it's like a christofascist, only with a different book

i think they're the new words for any nutjob who believes an invisible man and his magic book should be the basis for civil society. the prefix changes, depending on the magic book.