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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:53 PM
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Propaganda Alert: new "Torture tape" on CNN...
...I have a feeling Bush/media is going to be playing this thing up as much as possible...

Still no WMD's....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:57 PM
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1. .."We'll we reviewing these tapes, and showing you...
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 05:57 PM by SoCalDem
parts of them when we feel it's necessary"..:eyes:..

In other words, when the chimp starts slipping in the polls, and Karl phones , we'll be showing people being thrown off buildings, or having their ears bitten off, or whatever..

:puke:..

WE GET IT...SADDAM=BAD
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poppabear36 Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 08:58 PM
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15. when we feel it's necessary
I noticed that too. It's almost like the White House is speaking right into Wolf's earpiece.
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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:35 AM
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18. these tapes document Reagan/Bush policies
What was being shown on those tapes was happening while Donald Rumsfeld was warmly embracing Saddam in Baghdad.

While Reagan prevented the UN and the US Senate from denouncing Saddam for supporting terrorism.

While Reagan and Bush were allowing Saddam to obtain from the US precursors to biological weapons.

While Reagan was having the CIA give Saddam info to better target his chemical weapons attacks against Iranian troops.

Reagan and Bush KNEW that all of this was happening, they knew Saddam relied on torture etc., yet they supported him whole-heartedly.

Iraqis KNOW that the US supported Saddam whole-heartedly. That's why it's a joke to them when Rumsfeld or Wolfowitz or Bush tell them that the US wants to help them, that Saddam was evil, etc.

These tortures were the DIRECT result of US policy under the Republican presidents Reagan and Bush.

But I don't suppose they mentioned that on the broadcast.

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Michael Harrington Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:38 AM
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20. All true, yet...
No one in the Liberal Media Elite (term courtesy of that phrasemaker Zell Miller :eyes: ) has the stones to mantion thess undisputed facts, for fear of retaliation.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:46 AM
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21. What about the Saudis?
They still behead, amputate, stone....

and they are Dubya's best friends.

:eyes:
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:58 PM
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2. Geez, there was a thread that Fox did that this morning!
Hmmm, must have gotten their marching orders from Rove!
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:20 PM
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6. yup , I saw it last night on FOX then on Wolf Blitzer today
He (Wolf) was all apologetic about showing it.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:37 AM
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19. O'Reilly already had it on Thursday's show/nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:05 PM
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3. I saw that. They are ready for a full propaganda push.
This is just the beginning. The stories about Saddam will become increasingly more personal and horrific. They will find every Iraqi they can who was brutalized and make opposition to the war an atrocity in itself. Saddam needed to go. The people were brutalized. Rove will find plenty of photo ops.
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:09 PM
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4. Yeah, I saw that on FOX this morning
They were giving it the "how bad will this incontrovertible evidence that the war was right hurt the antiwar crowd" spin. Fucking laughable shit.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:21 PM
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7. i wonder if we'll hear about
the baby incubators again
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:18 PM
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5. The questions are
Where did they get the tape and how long have they had it?

Now who is filtering the news........

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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:44 PM
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12. Yes! FAUX said they "obtained" the tape.
Then tonight, Jamie McIntyre on CNN said that they have known about this tape's existence for a while and that usually all the media outlets get a copy of what is released. CNN said they did not get it from the Pentagon. Hmmm. The Pentagon feeding FAUX?
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:30 PM
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8. Wasn't Saddam the depraved one for watching torture videos?
It's weird to me that the Bush administration releases these grisly video tapes, which FOX and CNN eagerly broadcast, and tells us how depraved Saddam was.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:32 PM
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9. Where's the Saudi torture tapes?
or for that matter, how about showing Texas electrocution tapes on Al Jazeera?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:38 PM
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10. Krullia Deville is behind it too!
I mean Katherine Harris from the 2000 Gore-Bush vote robbing capper.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:40 PM
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11. I already have pissed off 7 kreepers and shittoheads about this.
All I said when they mentioned the tape was: "it really makes you wonder why Bush insisted on lying, and lying, and lying."

I actually did not piss off these people since they are always and constantly pissed off. But they did go ballistically apeshit. Which is always entertaining. Evidently this tape has something to do with Clinton's penis.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 08:06 PM
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14. Did the tape compel any of them to enlist in the fight???
???
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 08:24 AM
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17. Evidently not. If I understand them correctly, they all were prepared to
enlist but Clinton's penis prevented them from doing so.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:54 PM
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13. We already knew Saddam was bad. What of the US atrocites ?....
Like that tank crew that ran over that families car?.....or the concentration camp at Gitmo?....Or the invasion of Iraq? (the ultimate crime to which people at Nuremburg were hung for)
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jbm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 10:47 PM
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16. my conservative friend...
has called me repeatedly today to ask me if I've seen these tapes and wants to 'discuss' how awful they are. At first I said stuff like,"Yes,Saddam was a bad guy...what he did was really terrible",but she wouldn't get off the subject. When she called the third time I calmly asked in a half-joking kind of way if she had an agenda. I was hoping she'd get the message and back off,but she said,"No agenda,I just wanted to discuss the tapes". So fine,we talked about the tapes for a minute and I changed the subject. Just a second ago they must have shown them again cause she called back. This time I innocently said,"Would you like to see some pics of little children with their limbs blown off because of our bombs? I can e-mail you some".

She hung up on me....sigh.
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