Spent the day in Rocky Mountain National Park

[angka]

Driving through this pristine landscape, I started wondering what it would look like with, say, a huge oil pipeline running through it. As you can imagine that idea didn't provoke a positive reaction.

This got me thinking about what people in Alaska must think when they look at their pristine wilderness. Or in southern Utah, where they want to strip mine a national monument. Or in any of these as-yet unmolested natural places where conservation has lost and the highest bidder (helped always by the GOP) has won.

Isn't it conservative to conserve?

[grasswire]

1. oddly enough....

....there is a movement among some Christians toward "stewardship" of the earth at least where animals are concerned. There's a famous person (identity escapes me) who is spearheading this movement and is in especially in opposition to the inhumane practices of the meat industry. Their logic is that God set humans above the rest of creation, to be the caretakers.

[Clete]

2. Even pristine wildernesses in the lower 48

turn out not to be that pristine on second look. The Alaska ANWR
really is pristine, virginal. Yet, even wildernesses that have been logged a few times, mined and damned are still lovely until they turn into concrete.

[angka]

3. true...

in rocky mountain nat'l park there's a water transport structure called the 'grand ditch.' there's very little that's really pristine anymore.

it's more the attitude that pisses me off. the idea that natural beauty and ecological health should always be compromised by economic considerations.

[maggrwaggr]

4. You're talking about the A number 1 reason I became a Democrat

Because for some reason unknown to me, the Republicans seem hell-bent on destroying the environment the way a child enjoys breaking his toys.

Hm, let's see .... even if you think that God gave us this planet for us to USE, doesn't it follow that we should be responsible enough to take care of his gift?

To destroy God's gift to us is to shit in God's face.

Yet these people claim to be "christian".

They can all go to hell. I fucking hate them and I hate since 1980 when James Watt was made head of the EPA. They all need to be buried in their own shit.

[bookman]

5. But..

..what if there's oil in them thar hills?

Kidding aside.. I hate what's happening to our National Parks and Monuments.

[diamond14]

6. there should be a lot more snow on those peaks...horrible

drought...lots of fires coming this year...this mess is caused by global warming and major climate changes in Colorado caused by water diversions...

I've climbed Long's peak in the past, when there was snow...especially during July...sometimes, they could barely get the road open through the park by the May 31st holiday...I remember one year in the 70's that it could be plowed open on time...and many other years where there was snow piled up real high on both sides of the road in mid-June...

this is a very serious drought in Colorado...pray for rain...

[angka]

7. AM naturalist kick

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