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JustJoe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 02:51 PM
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Who could piss off power groups like JFK did?
Amongst the Dems running, who do you think, if elected,
would most likely piss off as many major powerful groups,
institutions, players, etc., as JFK did in just a couple
years, to the point that ... well ... ?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 02:52 PM
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1. Kucinich I would bet
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 02:56 PM
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2. I'd have to agree with you.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 03:00 PM
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6. yeah because DK
Well experienced and the like really is gonna be the first liberal democrat in a while and he gets real good ratings from the AFL-CIO.
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JustJoe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 02:56 PM
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3. How liberal ...
was Kennedy considered when he was running?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 02:59 PM
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4. dont know but I think Kucinich would piss a lot of the establishment off i
is all.
Good question though
JFK considered himself liberal I consider him liberal I think his brother Robert was more so though.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 02:59 PM
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5. defenitly Kucinich
He is there worst nightmare:scared:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 03:37 PM
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7. Any of Them...
...if they oppose war and don't have good enough life insurance.
Life insurance for a President is a Vice President whom the opposition
would find even more unacceptable.

The Republicans have always known this. They feel no need to "balance the ticket" --
look at the all-Texas-all-Big-Oil Bush/Cheney team.
Such Vice-Presidential timber as Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew can only
have been selected as life (and impeachment) insurance for the President.
Bush I (as VP), Cheney, and probably Nixon (as VP under Ike) were almost
the reverse situation as the real power behind a figurehead (and potentially
expendable) President.

JFK was sounding pretty hawkish during the Cuban missile crisis,
but he turned against the warmongers on Vietnam so they killed him.
Kennedy's body was barely even cold when the Vietnam escalation began.
JFK made a tragic error in his choice of a running mate.

Gore made the same error in 2000, and realized it in time to save
himself, but not in time to save the peace. Can there be any doubt that
the cabal would have killed Gore to get Lieberman in the White House?

Whoever gets the nomination must pick a VP who is solidly anti-war,
and they will have to take the same sort of precautions against
a double assassination that Bush and Cheney do today.

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jagguy Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 03:55 PM
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8. none of them
because the party would not allow anyone to run who would do that. Bad for business.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:17 PM
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9. John Kennedy Ran As A Cold Warrior
and he made an "alleged" missile gap between America and Russia part of his campaign.

He was to the left of Nixon, but he was certainly in the mainstream.

He ran on a campaign of getting America moving again

He had several Republicans in his Cabinet including the Ford whiz kid, Robert McNamara.

All that being said he was one of the most inspirational figures the Democrats have ever produced.

IMHO, John Kerry is the JFK of this race but he lacks JFK's charisma and his Hollywood good looks.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 04:29 PM
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10. Right you are. JFK knew you had to get to the right of the right to win.
You have to do that without violating your liberal principals. JFK did that by focusing on a "missile gap" between the US and the USSR, and by suggesting the nation was in the doldrums. He was not only charismatic, he was one helluva smart guy.

Imo, Dean has a mind that is most similar to JFK's. He thinks on his feet. He understands the need to satisfy the entire spectrum of reasonable political belief. He is articulate and savy.

I used to think Kerry was much the same, but I don't know what's happened to him lately. He's off the radar screen.
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