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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:30 PM
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It's War! They stole the presidency & congress, now they humiliate us.
Edited on Sat Dec-20-03 11:36 PM by TruthIsAll
And they want to know why we hate Bush?

Step 1: We must consolidate behind a candidate who will fight BUshCo 100%. One who is not wishy-washy. There are a few running who meet this standard. We know who they are.

Step 2: We must realize that we will not get a second chance - and that our energies must be totally applied to exposing EVERY Bush/Repuke atrocity. We know what they are.

Step 3: We must not forget which spineless DINOS helped bring us to this sad state of affairs, whether by corruption, fear, ignorance, laziness or a combination. We know who they are.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16827-2003Dec19.html?referrer=emailarticle

Hey, They're Taking Slash-and-Burn to Extremes!

By Charles Babington
Sunday, December 21, 2003; Page B01

Congress's minority parties have suffered indignities for decades, but few could top the insult that Republicans dealt to Democrats this fall. When House-Senate negotiators began a series of closed-door sessions to craft an ambitious Medicare overhaul, GOP Rep. Bill Thomas summarily announced that he would allow not a single House Democrat -- and only two Senate Democrats -- in. His edict was a jaw-dropper, given Congress's long history of letting each party appoint its own representatives to these all-important "conference committees." To add injury to insult, the banned lawmakers included the Senate's Democratic leader, Tom Daschle.


Whether it amounted to cool Republican efficiency or an assault on fairness and democracy, politicians and the American public had better get used to it. Thomas and his GOP colleagues brushed aside Daschle's complaints and enacted their bill -- aided by a now-infamous three-hour House roll call -- with less minority party involvement than on any major issue in recent times. Congressional Republicans and the Bush administration now appear poised to press other initiatives with barely a pretense of seeking Democratic input. The strategy could go on for years if Republicans keep their House and Senate majorities in 2004 and Bush wins reelection -- certainly a plausible scenario.

What's taking place is more than bare-knuckled partisanship, though there's plenty of that. A potent confluence of events and personalities is changing Congress. Will that matter beyond the Beltway, or even Capitol Hill? Republicans say the Medicare bill would have come out the same even with a semblance of greater Democratic input. But some congressional scholars see tactics that, while perhaps ruthlessly expedient in the short run, seem destined to generate future animosity and retribution. "I honestly believe that policy suffers when enacted in this way," says Thomas Mann, who monitors Congress for the Brookings Institution. "There really is something to be said for a more open, deliberative process where you give full airing to issues and you try to build a larger majority. I don't believe major social changes are sustainable with margins like this."

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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:35 PM
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1. Very scary....."This strategy could go on for years"
The strong-arm tactics are getting bolder and bolder. I wish the Dems could get their act together!
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:37 PM
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2. Sack Daschle! n/t
:spank:
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:33 AM
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6. That and...
I'd like to know who socked "turncoat" Sen. Baucus (D) in the eye after the vote??
Remember the shiner at the press conference.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:40 PM
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3. You have escaped the thought herding to see reality
You are exactly right. The government for the people is dead and the idea of a more perfect union is irrelevant. That is why Bu$h will not win when coupled with the fact he did not win last time. He is not going to carry Florida either unless it is because of black box voting.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:44 PM
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4. I Like You and Your Posts, TIA, But Who's Humiliated? n/t
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:30 AM
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5. They humiliate our representative Dems in congress....and therefore us..
Thanks to Daschle and Pelosi..who let it happen, with nary a whimper.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:58 AM
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7. It's Tough Maneuvering Against the Tide
Our Dem representatives have done what was possible.
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:24 AM
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15. "Our Dem representatives have done what was possible" --But not the Senate
They had tools they never used. Not ONE subpoena was issued to the White House when Dems held the Senate. Not ONE.

I could go on but it makes me sick to think how incompetent these guys were/are.
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:03 AM
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8.  Oh the War has already begun..
Its about time you joined us..
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:55 AM
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14. I have been fighting for the TRUTH at DU since Oct. 2001..
...
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:44 AM
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9. Why isn't Ken Lay in jail?
I keep wondering when the dem candidates are going to ask that question of the White House. I think that can be a killer issue for BushCo, maybe the time to ask is a about Oct 20th, 2004 -- in TV ads running on every major network.
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:53 AM
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10. Why is Oliver North still Free..
And working for the Bush PR team?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:26 AM
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:46 AM
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12. enjoy your brief stay at DU, halfbreed!
something tells me you won't be here very long
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 02:48 AM
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13. Oh you meen like Robbert Larimar..
LOL
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