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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:18 PM
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What do you like most about Dave Chappelle's show?
Some of it is funny, but some of it isn't. And why must all sketch/standup shows have a musical act? SNL does it, MadTV eventually did it, In Living Color had a nice twist (snippets of music with dancing) until they had a full song segment, Alexei Sayle did it (though the song was comedic), ditto for Laugh-In, and so on? Chappelle's a funny guy, why do the trite musical number bit? (Also, why does the DVD state some musical #s are not those seen from the original broadcast? Obviously the artist had a tantrum over licensing so they refused permission, but still... I hate it when the Media Man has to chop up the show as it was meant to be by the creators because of some licensing bullshit...)

</soapbox>

I'll likely keep the set, I love outrageous humor and this cat is the king. (Chris Rock was good too...)

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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:31 PM
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1. on your frustration about licensing hassles . . .
you have to wonder, with all the expensive lawyers hired by TV shows:

why didn't they see the DVD phenomenom coming and take care of all that at the front end (when the show still has leverage vis a vis the musical performer)??????

It is like Tassini v. New York Times over & over again! Cripes!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:44 PM
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5. Or the performer wants a truckload of money for the work performed...
I despise Fleetwood Mac and Jimi Hendrix's estate, not to forget the Beatles.

Fleetwood Mac wanted $8000 just for a 20 second snippet of a song that they'd made BEFORE they became famous. This snippet was in the Doctor Who story "Spearhead from Space". It was pointless filler music, but that's how the creators intended it to be. The scene, with music removed, drags on considerably without it. :-(

The Beatles wanted big-bucks for the snippets in "The Evil of the Daleks" and "Remembrance of the Daleks". :eyes: I don't recall the price, but it was exorbitant. The snippets in the individual stories added to the ambiance of the time period (both stories were set in the early/mid 60s.) The replacement music is naff.

Jimi Hendrex... a reverberated/altered 10 second snippet of "Fire" was in the classic "Revelation of the Daleks" and actually added a lot to the scene's tone... Well, his estate wanted a ton of money so the snippet had to be removed. Not only is it a small part of one song, it was altered with a reverb distortion effect. Again, I don't recall the price they wanted, but it was exorbitant. And I never bothered to listen to what fluff they put in its place, I doubt they made the effort to make the replacement material 'fit in' either. x(

Of course, there's enough of a fanbase that the people releasing the Dr Who DVDs could simply pay the $8000 and sell the disc for an extra whopping $1 per disc, so I'm not always happy with the distributors of the show either. (which would still give them a profit, there's more than 8000 Dr Who fans who'd buy the DVD out there, sigh...)

I dunno. Greed kills art.
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:58 PM
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6. yeah, well, tv shows can always get many bands . . .
Edited on Thu May-20-04 08:59 PM by Tina H
willing to play. That is why the show has leverage before the track is placed in sync with the video. The lawyers for the shows can get clearance of all future rights at that time. If the band (eg, not-yet-famous-Mac) balks, there are many other excellent not-yet-famous bands ready, willing and able to contribute music for moderate pay and the promise of tv exposure.

The lawyers keep failing in this endeavor and I keep hoping that they will learn, but they never seem to. There is no legal barrier to TV shows from securing all future ip rights in the original contract. It is just a failure of intelligently protecting long term interests of their tv producer clients.

By the way, if you are interested in the intersection between intellectual property rights and art, I recommend the new Lawrence Lessig book Free Culture. It is available for free, over the Internet, here:

http://free-culture.org/
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:34 PM
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2. The freedom to not watch it.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:34 PM
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3. HATE DAVE CHAPELLE...
WHO is he screwing?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:36 PM
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4. Originality
even if sometimes it's because nobody else would dare touch it.

Wrap it up light was funny, as well as Grand Theft Life.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:00 PM
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7. "Tales from Hollywood". Charles Murphy is the secret ingredient
of the show. The one with Prince is my personal favorite ("The cat could ball!"), with the Rick James one coming in second.

I like a couple of the "Keeping it Real" skits also.

The Venereal Disease Muppets was funny and disturbing all at the same time.
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:03 PM
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8. is wayne brady
gonna have to choke a bitch?

im rick james bitch!

im rich bitch!


am i seeing a pattern here? ;)

best show on tv, with maybe the exception of south park or the daily show
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:04 PM
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9. Is the licensing problem the reason why some of the shows are so short?
I've been renting the first season, and I was surprised to discover that some of the episodes are under 18 minutes without commercials!

That being said, I thought the "Popcopy" segment was brilliant!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:12 PM
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10. Depends, but usually that means they're chopping program time for adverts
If there's no music segment, then it got cut out because of licensing or political issues, no big deal.

If it's 18 minutes long and there's a full length music segment, then that means Comedy Central is really cutting things fine in order to get more commercials so somebody can get paid. I remember when TV shows were 25 minutes in a 30 minute slot (or 50 mins in a 1 hour slot). Now it's 21/30 or 43/60. :puke: 18 minutes for a program in a 30 minute slot is a total outrage.

I doubt the programs are cut for the sake of a DVD release. (Then again, all tv shows made in the 1970s had epilogues. On DVD releases of some of them, there is no epilogue...)
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:17 PM
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11. Zapped was a funny skit
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:29 PM
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12. i like his hair
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:05 PM
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13. My favorite show on tv...and I like the musical acts
Edited on Thu May-20-04 10:09 PM by TroubleMan
Mos Def is becoming one of my all-time favorites. He also had Erykah Badu, Anthony Hamilton, Talib Kweli...those artists are some of my current favorites.

I pretty much like every skit, especially the "Wrap it up box" and "The Player Hater's Ball." Of course the true Hollywood stories and the VD-Gang were great, too

The hardest I laughed in years is when he told "Beautiful" he's a stunt double for Little Richard in gay porn movies....man, I'm still laughing over that one.
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 10:11 PM
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14. The Different Strokes song
he performed with ?uestlove and John Mayer...that was priceless! It was from the skit about what black people, white people, etc. like to dance to...and Chapelle winds up singing "Every Rose Has its Thorn" too! That had me laughing my ass off! It's the unpredictable, brillant stuff like that that he pulls out of left field that keep me watching.

Oh, and The Rick James skit with Charlie Murphy was GENIUS. I've seen it several times and every time it still makes me laugh as hard as the first time I saw it.

Oh, and I love Mos Def, too! Hope he'll be around a lot in the next season!! :loveya:
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