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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:49 AM
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Scots/English DUers here!
Especially those whose families have been in the colonies for hundreds of years!

My grandmother used to claim we were descended from King George the something--one of his daughters married beneath her and the couple were "transported" to NC. I later learned my grandmother had delusions of grandeur. Nonetheless, both sides of my family have been in NC for hundreds of years, but I love my Scots/English heritage.
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:55 AM
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1. Scottish born & bred.
Comes complete with kilt & accent.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:59 AM
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3. That's twice this morning you've gotten me excited, GM!
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:04 AM
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4. Go to the church bbq & purify your thoughts
Anyway I bat for the other side. Sorry.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:05 AM
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5. Well, according to a thread posted last night
...you can retrain your sexual orientation! Give it a try!
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:07 AM
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7. I pulled on Friday night for the first time in months,
now is not the time to change my sexual orientation.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:16 AM
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8. Oh yes, I remember the thread about "pulling"
I won't mention the only thing I've been pulling for ages now!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:58 AM
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2. If the genealogy is correct,
my ancestors are traced back to escaping from the Hueguenots in France and coming to England. Some of it gets shameful as some became slave traders in the Carribbean, and then the family lost its wealth by remaining loyal to the Crown during the Revolution. (I guess bad karma is also inherited?)

But I'm proud of my very mixed European heritage (English, Scottish, French, Dutch, and German and who knows what else that may not be European). My husband is also Am Indian, Welsh, Czech, and I'm not sure what else.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:07 AM
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6. The Celtic Cross Reflects My Scots-Irish Heritage
Edited on Mon May-31-04 10:18 AM by Labor_Ready
I've traced my ancestry to an immigrant from Ulster who made the voyage to South Carolina in the 1750s along with his brother. They dropped the 'Mc' from their surname and - as far as I can determine - everyone in the US & Canada with this modified surname is descended from one of these two brothers.

On the English side, it's a bit murkier, but I believe these ancestors immigrated to Virginia no later than the 1620s. I've uncovered a letter from a Baptist minister (believe to be a great-to-the-nth-power relative) to a British trading company on behalf of members of his congregation. They were indentured servants who were required to produce a specific quantity of tobacco before being allowed to return home. A poor growing season meant that they would be required to wait an additional year before returning home, and this minister's letter was a plea for the trading company to relax their requirements and allow these farmers to go home until the next growing season. I couldn't find out whether the plea was granted, but it was interesting nonetheless.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:59 AM
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9. Scots heritage.....
My mothers family came from the Lowlands (a long time ago, 100+ yrs). I'm supposedly a descendant of Sir Walter Scott. I've also been told I look good in a kilt.
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:02 AM
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11. Everyone looks good in kilt
chaps in proper kilts & girls in mini-kilts (drool). It's just good that only Scots get to wear them.

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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:32 AM
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12. I'd love to get one with my family "tartan"......................
but to get a nice one made and imported runs about $600-800 US. :wow: Then, of course, I'd need me Claymore.



Like your screenname. I heard that they were going to do another Fahrenheit 451 movie.
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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:37 AM
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13. I got mine "cheap"...
still cost £350 (UKP) + £100 on accesories (sporran, belt, socks etc)
£100 for sgian dubh (wee knife) (actually mine was an 18th B'day prezzie so maybe more)
£150 for jayket (that's jacket to sassanachs)
£40 for shoes...
it took a while until I built up the complete wardrobe.

But I do look pretty damn sexy when I have it on.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:51 AM
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18. Damn, Guy!!!
Your whole kit would cost roughly $1400 US. I guess it ain't cheap being a dapper Scots.

Even Angus Podgorny is shocked. ----->
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:02 AM
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10. shouldnt you also include the Welsh?
just saying man. Thats where my cousin and her english husband live or lived, I think they are in Colorado now, yes despite my somewhat anti angloness, I have a brit in law :), and my one cousin I think dates a Scot.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:46 AM
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14. I'm a Scots-born Canadian with an Irish mother, Scots father, Welsh Gran
the rest split 50/50 Scots-Irish. My wife is a Canadian Maritimer from old United Loyalist and Highland Scots stock. I tell people I'm Dutch though. Just to fuck with them.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:49 AM
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15. heh all right
Celt mix eh heh. I dont even know what ethnically I look.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:49 AM
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16. I look Germanic, apparently.
Edited on Mon May-31-04 11:49 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
You can judge for yourself, of course.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:54 AM
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21. yeah you do sorta
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:50 AM
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17. Aren't Scots really Irish who moved over an island?
Just asking.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:52 AM
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19. They're the Irish who could swim.
That or, they got really drunk one night and couldn't work out how to get home.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:54 AM
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20. Almost all Scots-Irish and English here.
As far as we know, anyway. Mom's been doing genealogical research for almost 30 years now, she says there's some Scottish (or Scots-Irish) on her side, though there's a strange concatenation of burned-down courthouses and records destroyed by floods. She's traced both sides back to Great Britain, and thinks likely some from her father's side were probably Scots who emigrated to Ireland (we have a 'Mick' name on that side).

Some of Dad's family came in through New Jersey/Pennsylvania sometime around the turn of the 18th Century. We picked up at least one Germanic strain at that point, probably (via Pennsylvania Dutch), but that's the only outlier as far as she knows.

Dad's mother's family name is Irish, but Mom says they probably came over from England. Maybe they're Irish, maybe they're not -- names aren't the best way to determine from whence they came, unless they were named for specific geographical areas. They shared the name of a famous Irish author, but it was a common enough name in England, too, there's little way of knowing (and that's one of the 'burned courthouse/flood' branches).

Her mother's family also came to the county she still lives in back in the 18th Century sometime. There are still places there named after my ancestors on her mother's side, and a house (owned by non-family members since the late sixties) that was owned by an ancestor of my maternal grandmother.

One of these days, I need to sit down with Mom and go over all this stuff. I'm the one of three of us kids who's most likely to derive any pleasure from the information she's gathered. I offered to help her out by doing the data entry on the stuff she had -- I bought her a computer program to collate it all -- but she's never gotten around to organizing all her 3x5 cards so I can do it. She says it's a wonder anybody can follow anything back more than a generation or so with our family, since there aren't many Catholics (they kept great family records, usually in bibles handed down from generation to generation), and the procrastination is probably a genetic feature.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 11:57 AM
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22. I like how the Scots play soccer but I'm pure German
Sorry if that offends you
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 12:37 PM
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23. Auch aye
Scots here. The line goes back to some Scot coming to Virginia in the 1600's. Possibly exiled for not being Catholic - but it's pretty uncertain that far back. No wonder I've been an avid traveller and keen to emigrate else where. The DNA has been in this region for too bloody long.
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