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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:18 PM
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DU chefs I have a problem and I need advice!!! re: glass cooktop
K - here's the deal. My fiance and I are finally moving in together. i found a great apartment - big, bveautiful, all the room we need and more - a dream come true....but.

It has one of those electrical gleass cooktop stoves.

Now I've been living for three years in my humble little bachelor pad with my pride and joy - my gas stove. Gas - you turn it on and *poof* its on - instant heat. Now I sadly have to look at what to do about this. Its bad enough its electric but its got that lame ass cooktop. Most of my pans are somewhat warped at the bottom which never freaking mattered with gas and wouldn't matter that much if they were sitting right on the electrical element but now - SHIT! What do I do?

My biggest fear is that I cook most of my food in my trusty stainless steel wok. It is a flat bottom wok - in theory! How am I ever going to get my peanut oil to the smoking point?

Am I being overly paranoid, will it work fine and I just need patience or should I get all new pans or, God forbid, buy a new range with electrical elements? Or take my life in my hands and use propane burner inside? HELP!!!!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:20 PM
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1. I have no problem with a wok on my glass oven top.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 04:21 PM by liberal_veteran
It is a little different, but it works fine.

I did invest in a set of good cookware I ordered from HSN of all places.

It was a nice Wolfgang Puck branded set of stainless steel.

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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:26 PM
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4. Do you use cast iron ever?
I want to start my Le Creuset collection, but not if it'll suck on this stove


OH WOE IS ME!!!!

:(
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:42 PM
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5. No...I only use cast iron for cornbread in the oven, but....
...my understanding is that cast iron works fine.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:54 PM
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8. I have professional Calphalon and they worked great on the glass top.
They don't work as well on the elements because the elements are never level.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:03 PM
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27. I use cast iron all the time
on my glass cooktop. works just fine. works nicely with my carbon-steel wok, too. The only problem I've got with the glass cooktop is that it eventually develops these baked-on rings of black crud around the burners no matter what you do to clean them. We just ignore that.

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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:30 PM
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28. Take a really really sharp knife, or even a razor blade
Carefully scrape the black crap off. It works for me, and believe me, I really let it build up.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:23 PM
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2. There is a huge difference between electric and gas top
after years of electric top and years ago the flat-top electric, my new stove has gas top and electric convection oven. Temperature control is a must in fine cooking.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:25 PM
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3. OH MY GOD - YOU'RE SCARING ME!!!
Answer me this - if we have gas heat, then there must be a hookup for a gas range, no?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:48 PM
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6. Not really
First of all, try your pans first. You may survive yet. :)

But just because you have gas heat doesn't mean that there's a gas line that goes anywhere near the kitchen. Gas is a relatively easy plumb -- you measure where you want it to go, buy pre-cut and pre-threaded iron pipe at Home Depot, goop it up, and tighten the pieces together with a couple of pipe wrenches -- but if you've got any fear, get someone who knows how to do it if you've gotta have gas.

If you wind up wanting to plumb the gas yourself, PM me and I'd be happy to talk you through it. But first, see if you're miserable with your pans and the electric.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:03 AM
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15. Will do. I checked and there is a gas line behind the stove
I'll check to see how my pans fare since I'll have to save for the stove anuway. Thanks Robb!

I'll definately be in touch!
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:32 PM
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11. There was not for my stove - I paid to have a line
I had gas into my house and insisted on a gas line for the new stove - it was well worth it.
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:50 PM
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7. Keep the cooktop!! I would love to have one
Where I live, we don't have the option of gas stoves. I miss cooking with gas! I have used both the glass cooktop and one with electric elements. The smooth tops are far superior!! When we redo the kitchen later this year, we will be getting a smooth top, I can't wait to get rid of the piece of crap I have now.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:17 PM
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9. Do what Robb says
try it for a while and see if you are adaptable they get good and hot just slower - should be ok for the wok. warped pans may need to be replaced - but not always - depends. Careful with heavy cast iron on the cook top but actually the combo for slow cooking is probably great.

If you decide its just awful, do the plumbing - its easy, Or even one propane burner might be a compromise available in restaurant supply etc.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:05 AM
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16. Is a propane unit a CO hazard?
My science is terrible :)
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:27 PM
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10. maybe the control unit can manage an induction cooktop
Edited on Sun Jun-27-04 05:31 PM by Kellanved
That's what I'm considering: glass top, variable size spots, but instant-on/instant off - just like gas. The downside is that special pans and pots are needed.

And it is more energy efficient than a classic Ceran cooktop.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:07 PM
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12. Mine works great
And it heats up immediately.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:10 PM
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13. Glass tops are of the devil himself
Eelctric is bad enough to cook with - absolutely frustrating to work with - but the glasstop BS. Forget it. My sister has one, and I have to use it when I visit her, and I'll tell ya, I'd like to throw the *%@&% thing out the window and just use a coleman camp stove.

Good luck to ya! I'd never, ever have electric if there was a gas line coming into my house.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:20 PM
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14. well
Generally you're correct - I can't help it.

However there are several kinds of glasstops:

classic: basically the same technology as with the old electric ones. The only difference is the heat-transparent glass, which is supposed to be easy to clean. Well, it is not easy to clean and shows fingerprints...
The cheap and/or old ones ones tend to be incredibly slow - without being energy efficient. The better ones are OK; but nothing like gas. The main advantage are variable size cooking spots and low-heat modes.



Halogen:
An attempt to emulate gas by what amounts to a strong light under the glass. Uses energy like crazy, but changes temperature faster than conventional glasstops.

Gas:
Yes, there are glasstops using gas. I've never understood what the advantage is...

Induction:
The best: not the top gets hot, but just the pot/pan. Instant-on, instant-off, variable size spots, energy-saving (no pot = no consumption),...

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:28 PM
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30. Induction has one itty-bitty problem
It uses a magnetic field to heat ferrous pans. Your Le Creuset pans (enameled cast iron) will be fine. Your Calphalon (anodized aluminum) will not work at all. And since my wife has the hots for Calphalon...Calphalon makes one stainless-steel line; I fear to think what they want for that.

The only advantage of a gas smoothtop would be that spills wouldn't clog up the holes in the burners.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:07 AM
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18. It seems there is a gas line right behind the stove.I'm gonna start savin'
for a gas stove today!!!

I agree with you - again!
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 01:45 PM
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26. Woo hoo! I have you back!
But of course, make sure your landlord doesn't mind (unless you bought the aaprtment?)

Good luck!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:06 AM
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17. Pull the stove out from the wall.. see if there is a gas connection
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 06:36 AM by SoCalDem
KIf there is, look for a used gas stove, have it installed, and store the corning topped one in a friend's garage until you move :)

Gas is cheaper too.. If there is no gas connection, you might ask the landlord if he objects to having to get one installed..(He might)..
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:09 AM
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19. THERE IS A CONNECTION!!!! WOO HOO!!!!
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 06:09 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
Gas is really cheaper? That'll be a selling point for the future Mrs CStheT. (Actually, not hearing me whine and complain plus not being able to cook her her favorite meals the way I used to could will be the main selling point! :) )
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 06:39 AM
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20. Look in the want ads.. People move all the time, and have stuff to sell
Edited on Mon Jun-28-04 06:39 AM by SoCalDem
You can probably pick one up at a good price..or check with some local appliance stores.. Sometimes they have trade-ins or repos..

Stoves last a LONG time, and you can get a good used one.. Our "first" one was one we paid $15.00 for and it had 2 ovens, 6 burners.. It was one of those 1950's Big ole stoves :).. We had that thing for 10 years and sold it for $50 ....
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 07:21 AM
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21. Thanks SCD - I'm on it!!!
:hi:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 07:35 AM
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22. another place to check
...are building material consignment stores. Mostly doors and windows, but a lot of used major household appliances as well. Also a great place to "store" the top you don't want. :)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 07:46 AM
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23. Yep...Habitat for Humanity Re-store might be an option.
Hell, they might trade ya.

Of course, since you are renting, you'll have to have landlord approval.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 08:26 AM
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25. I'm probably going to have to basement the unit that's there so its gonna
be out o'pocket for me. But that's ok! It'll be worth it
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 07:56 AM
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24. I am so sorry
If you're not cooking with gas, you are not cooking. I have had to settle for the coil-type burners lately and I hate them. There is so much less control with electric. And the wok? Phew.....Not to bum you, but look on this as a challenge and a reason to get some new cookware...
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-04 02:31 PM
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29. I just hope you don't have one of those where ...
the element turns on and off to maintain a certain temp. My mother has one of those. An absolute moran must have designed this thing. You're doing a stir fry and the element turns off and suddenly you find yourself steaming instead of frying. Worse yet, you're trying to cook something on low but the dumb beast don't know that, so it's turning on and off and on and off, and you find yourself with a charred but raw piece of whatever, and a scortched pot. Maddening.
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