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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:24 PM
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Okay..Wesley Clark looks like Gary Cooper
and reminds me, when he talks, of Cooper...in Meet John Doe..
very good selling point imo and I like Clark

http://www.classicsavers.com/CooperPopup.html
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:33 PM
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1. I like Clark too and I think he will be hard to beat but
he is very vague on the subject of NAFTA. He is still talking about exporting jobs overseas. The very idea of exporting jobs is hurting this nation. If other nations care to compete with the US, I see nothing wrong with this- as long as their workers are paid competatively and have the right to strike and to collectively bargain.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:07 PM
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4. NAFTA is bullshit anyways
The US has hiked tons of tariffs on Canada, completely contrary to the agreement. It's simply a deal constructed to milk the Canada and Mexico to America's delight.

Softwood lumber 29 percent tariff
Wheat battle going on now....

The real loss of jobs are not NAFTA.

It's the mad rush by everyone to China and India.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:41 PM
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5. I should have said "NAFTA-like"agreements.
There are several of them. I can't recall right off what the one dealing with Pacific Rim nations is called. But I don't think China should have ever been given" favored nation" trading status. We will live to regret it, I fear.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:22 PM
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7. Jobs Going Overseas IS NOT THE PROBLEM
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 04:23 PM by cryingshame
The problem is the lack of NEW Jobs and Technologies to take the place of the old ones.

Also, companies should be required to forewarn and prepare the government and work force for when they are going to outsource jobs. This would allow the government to help redirect and retrain workers.

Clark spoke last night of investing in alternative energies and Homeland Security for job creation and he also mentioned the need for businesses & the governement to plan ahead for shifts in their workforce.

Krugman wrote a column today in the NYTimes about Free Trade and how it is a MISTAKE to think that there is finite amount of jobs to be had in the United States and that none of them should be sent overseas.

Isolationism is not the answer.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:56 PM
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10. I'd like to agree with you but there is a big difference
between fair trade and free trade.When jobs are lost here and sent to areas which use slave labor to make products which are then sold back in the US, that is UNFAIR trade! Competition is impossible.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:03 PM
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11. There's No Reason Certain Standards Can't Be Included
sounds fair enough :)

After all, if we develope green technology... we need a middle class in India to buy our stuff!
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:41 PM
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2. A lot of people think he sounds like Bush*
There was a whole thread about it last night and another one a week ago. Not his message, but his intonation and cadence.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:49 PM
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3. Clark looks more like Dr. Strangelove
Dean's Campaign usage of Meetup.com has more parallels with Capra's "Meet John Doe" than Clark and his campaign. And Dean shares more of Capra's values than Clark does.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:24 PM
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8. Okay, That's Just Dumb
:)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:41 PM
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12. Asserting that Dean shares Capra's values is a surefire way...
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 06:43 PM by mitchum
of keeping me away from Dean. Capra was a a banal sentimentalist.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:15 PM
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6. Could very well be.

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:27 PM
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9. Its a selling point imo
I would love to see a Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean ticket.
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