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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:07 PM
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Songs from the 60's and 70's - which ones relevant now(and more)
with the bushinator in office?

Years of socially geared music, the days of Billy Jack, woodstock, racial strife and vietnam. Do we have enough such music and movies now?

What movies and music impacted you in those times, and do you see such a movement now?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:08 PM
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1. CCR & CSNY sang many political, anti-VN songs. nt
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BobMorr Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:12 PM
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2. Barry McGuire and Bruce Cockburn
Eve of Destruction-Barry McGuire
If I Had a Rocket Launcher-Bruce Cockburn

Check them out and tell me If they don't relate to today.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:12 PM
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3. Quite a few.
Off the top of my head:

BLOWING IN THE WIND - Bob Dylan
EVE OF DESTRUCTION - Barry McGuire
FORTUNATE SON - Creedence Clearwater Revival
I'LL TAKE YOU THERE - The Staple Singers
MASTERS OF WAR - Bob Dylan
OHIO - Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
SOMETHING IN THE AIR - Thunderclap Newman
THIS IS MY COUNTRY - The Impressions
2+2=? - The Bob Seger System
UNIVERSAL SOLDIER - Buffy Sainte-Marie
WAR - Edwin Starr
WE GOT TO HAVE PEACE - Curtis Mayfield
WHAT'S GOING ON - Marvin Gaye
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:15 PM
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6. Great list.
What's Going On is such a great song.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:20 PM
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36. One of these days the list may be reduced to one:
"We gotta get out of this place - if it's the last thing we ever do..."
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:14 PM
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4. "War Pigs" and "Children of the Grave" by Black Sabbath.
To name a few.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:15 PM
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5. masters of war
Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

dylan

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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:16 PM
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7. The score from "Alice's Restaurant" is nearly as relevant today
as it was 30+ years ago. Once Bush reinstates the draft, it will be totally spot on.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:17 PM
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8. good one...
they made my boyfriend sit on 'the group w bench' once...
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:36 PM
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27. With the mother-stabbers and the father-rapers? Oh my God....
He must be trouble! :evilgrin:
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:30 PM
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32. he said it was 1969...
said it was all about trouble back then. scored 96% mechanical/spatial reasoning so they knew that when he just checked off the 'psych stuff' without even looking at the q's he was messing with them, so they sent him for evaluation, and yes, that's where the group w bench is...
:shrug:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:18 PM
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9. "For What It's Worth"
Buffalo Springfield. Very apropos.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:52 PM
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19. Indeed -- and for the kiddies here who may not have heard it...
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 07:52 PM by mcscajun
For What It's Worth -- Buffalo Springfield

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side

It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:24 PM
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10. Ahhh the 60's, Vietnam, etc, etc...my fav:
I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-to-Die Rag
Joe McDonald (1965)

Well, Come On All Of You, Big Strong Men,
Uncle Sam Needs Your Help Again.
He's Got Himself In A Terrible Jam
Way Down Yonder In Vietnam
So Put Down Your Books And Pick Up A Gun,
We're Gonna Have A Whole Lotta Fun.

And It's One, Two, Three,
What Are We Fighting For ?
Don't Ask Me, I Don't Give A Damn,
Next Stop Is Vietnam;
And It's Five, Six, Seven,
Open Up The Pearly Gates,
Well There Ain't No Time To Wonder Why,
Whoopee! We're All Gonna Die.

Come On Wall Street, Don't Be Slow,
Why Man, This Is War Au-Go-Go
There's Plenty Good Money To Be Made
By Supplying The Army With The Tools Of Its Trade,
But Just Hope And Pray That If They Drop The Bomb,
They Drop It On The Viet Cong.

And It's One, Two, Three,
What Are We Fighting For ?
Don't Ask Me, I Don't Give A Damn,
Next Stop Is Vietnam.
And It's Five, Six, Seven,
Open Up The Pearly Gates,
Well There Ain't No Time To Wonder Why
Whoopee! We're All Gonna Die.

Well, Come On Generals, Let's Move Fast;
Your Big Chance Has Come At Last.
Now You Can Go Out And Get Those Reds
'Cause The Only Good Commie Is The One That's Dead
And You Know That Peace Can Only Be Won
When We've Blown 'Em All To Kingdom Come.

And It's One, Two, Three,
What Are We Fighting For ?
Don't Ask Me, I Don't Give A Damn,
Next Stop Is Vietnam;
And It's Five, Six, Seven,
Open Up The Pearly Gates,
Well There Ain't No Time To Wonder Why
Whoopee! We're All Gonna Die.

Come On Mothers Throughout The Land,
Pack Your Boys Off To Vietnam.
Come On Fathers, And Don't Hesitate
To Send Your Sons Off Before It's Too Late.
And You Can Be The First Ones On Your Block
To Have Your Boy Come Home In A Box.

And It's One, Two, Three
What Are We Fighting For ?
Don't Ask Me, I Don't Give A Damn,
Next Stop Is Vietnam.
And It's Five, Six, Seven,
Open Up The Pearly Gates,
Well There Ain't No Time To Wonder Why,
Whoopee! We're All Gonna Die.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:28 PM
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26. Beat me to it
I love that song.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:25 PM
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11. Plenty...
Buffalo Springfield - "For What It's Worth"

Jefferson Airplane - "Volunteers"

Bob Dylan - "Masters of War"

Phil Ochs - "I Ain't Marching Anymore"

Spirit - "1984" "Mechanical World"

Lots more.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:33 PM
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12. Wonder why there are not more today?
There seemed so much rebellious back then, not it seems so little it. Maybe just me....
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:52 PM
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18. My guess?
The draft. There was a lot more indignation and protest of an illegitimate and unwise war when you could find yourself in the middle of it unwillingly.

And, those protesting discovered that government didn't have much respect for their 1st Amendment rights--that gave a lot of people pause, especially so many who'd grown up believing that the United States stood firmly for those rights.

Also, the last twenty-five years have been pretty destructive of the public trust, and, in many ways, people have become quite jaded and cynical about that.

As well, a lot of unrest in those earlier times was directed at the institutions with which students were most familiar--their colleges and universities, while today, most students see those institutions as the path to getting and keeping a job--the same restrictions don't apply--when I first started college, one couldn't get any closer to a women's dorm than the lobby, alcohol on campus would get you thrown out, and there were curfews every night of the week. And that was a state university.

Many associated reasons, but the draft and the Vietnam war were major among them.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:53 PM
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20. Certainly that's a factor. The other thing is there's less hope today
and more despair.

The music reflects that.

Tough to get angry when you don't see the point.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:27 PM
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25. A well reasoned reply
And I think you are probably right - sad it seems so many are blind perhaps until it is too late. Perhaps we trust the govnernment too much these days.

Food for thought and maybe a whole new thread on that - bigger governmenr? More taxes for bigger government? And yet we do not trust them anymore now than we did then....
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:13 PM
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28. I don't think it's a matter of...
... trusting the government.

One can't dispel the effects of a news media which supports the government a great deal more than does the public; putting people in fear of their lives has a tendency to focus their self-interest. That creates a populace which is not going to look more broadly at the state of the nation and their communities and come up with solutions.

Combine that with the neverending trumpeting of the right, blaming the left for all the country's ills, and the seeds are sown for the sort of finger-pointing and isolation which creates large divides in society, and doesn't cause people to actually think about the problems which affect them.

It's a big society, with many, many competing interests, with a populace increasingly harried by lack of time, lack of money, lack of space (literally and figuratively). Maybe it will take a renewed draft and yet another war for specious purposes to get people up on their feet and out in the streets. Don't know. Just know that it can't continue to go on the way it has and have the country and its institutions survive intact.

Cheers.

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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:02 PM
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22. It seemed to start with the Civil Rights Movement
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 08:02 PM by Mend
Martin Luther King and African-Americans showed us how....he was very anti-war. We joined them.
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:40 PM
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13. "All Moving Parts (Stand Still)" by Black Sabbath
Definitely sounds like Dumbya to me.

All Moving Parts (Stand Still)
Super animation, turning on a nation
And they're saying all moving parts stand still
Since he was elected, adrenalin injected
Hear him saying all moving parts should kill
Just like the hero he's got them all on the run
Yes he's won

Since he passed the motion
They're building in the ocean
And he's saying all men should all be free
What a combination, peace and radiation
And he's saying free men should fight for me
Just like his momma, he seems to get his pleasure from pain
And the rain, ain't that strange?
Very strange

I like choking toys
You've got to see me before you meet the boys
Teacher's burnt the school
He's had enough of sticking to the rules
People stop and see
He's got to be more decadent than me
Just to pass the time
He gets his kicks from licking off the wine

Pretty silly ladies
All Cynthia's and Sadie's
Call him and he takes their numbers down
Says he is a woman
Should have seen it coming
And she's saying she's married to a clown
Just like a lady she'll keep you guessing through the night
Not tonight, well I might, oh alright!

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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:43 PM
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14. Ten Years After "I'd Love to Change the World".
but I don't know what to do, so I'll leave it up to you.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:46 PM
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15. "ball of confusion"
and "cloud nine"--the temptations--
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opiate69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:46 PM
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16. Or, if you prefer metaphors, "Law of the Bungle" by Tull
Law of the Bungle
The tiger flashes sharpened teeth.
Bowler-hatted; summer briefs beneath his pinstriped skin.
To kill demands a business sense;
Economy moves non-residence approaching from down-wind.
Being a tiger means you laugh
Whenever lesser tigers have to eat meat that's infected.
Being a tiger means your mate
When overfed will defecate in places least expected.

Knowing a tiger means you must
Accept his promise of mutual trust
And offer him your throat.

Loving a tiger means you take second place to the cake you bake
(Spoken:) and with undying servile obedience keep the stiffly starched
collar of his conference shirt spotless and remove daily the daubed bloody
evidence of his dastardly misdeeds from the otherwise immaculate elegance
of his pinstripe tiger coat.
Period.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 07:48 PM
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17. "What's Going On?" by Marvin Gaye

Perfect song for right now.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:01 PM
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21. Blowin' In The Wind
And today...it just seems so bittersweet...we fought this before and we are fighting it again...
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:03 PM
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23. The Times They are A'Changin
Dylan.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:09 PM
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24. For What It's Worth,
Buffalo Springfield, is constantly running through my mind.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:19 PM
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29. Steppenwolf: Monster/Suicide/America


From the 1970 release "Monster"

Words and music by John Kay, Jerry Edmonton, Nick St. Nicholas and Larry Byrom

(Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster

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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:21 PM
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30. Eve of Destruction?
http://www.letssingit.com/?http://www.letssingit.com/barry-mcguire-eve-of-destruction-s1m88lj.html

The eastern world, it is explodin’.
Violence flarin’, bullets loadin’
You’re old enough to kill, but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war, but what’s that gun you’re totin’
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin’

But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve
of destruction.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:28 PM
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31. Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" n/t
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 10:37 PM
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33. "Time Has Come Today" - The Chambers Brothers.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:03 PM
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34. Bad Moon Rising-John Fogerty
I see a bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
I see bad times today.

CHORUS:
Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.

I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.

Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.

This was written by Fogarty in response to the beginning of the Nixon years.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:17 PM
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35. The entire "We're Only In It for the Money" album
by the Mothers of Invention. Written at the time of Governor Reagan's reign and based on a Franz Kafka story called "The Penal Colony", it touches on PTSD experienced by troops in corporate wars, suburban phoniness, practically foretold the Kent State shootings, the selling-out of entertainers and the narrow-mindedness of herd-mentality.
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